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I apologize in advance for the apparent trolling.

I can't do it! I've been trying for almost a month, but it seems like it's intended for children! The portrait pictures, the fanciful settings...the whole thing is like playing pretend in the silliest way. It's not that I don't like RPGs, but do the characters really have to refer to their own actions as "adventures?" A PLAGUE IS NOT AN ADVENTURE. It seems like it's in the same category as the Twilight books.

To clarify, I've tried starting the main quest and both expansions.

Really, wtf. I don't mean to be a jerk, it's just completely baffling to me. Are all D&D games like this? Are the legendary Planescape and Baldur's Gate games this hokey? I really want to enjoy this game, because I like RPGs, and the diamond edition package has a lot of content that I have paid for and haven't played.
Post edited April 26, 2011 by fjdgshdkeavd
Just think about owlbears and gelatinous cubes. D&D itself is cheezy and half-serious. I wouldn't expect much more from games based on it (although I do not claim that there are none that offer more than NWN)
Post edited April 26, 2011 by DreadHelm
Some are hokey. Some are dungeon-mastery-geeky. And some are dark and serious. And some are comical.

Each has its own feel.

The OC is a bit hokey. It's probably geared toward a teenage audience, but not can be enjoyed by almost anybody.

If you get bored of it and want to try some others, then go for it. Some of the other campaigns are good. I've just been working my way through Darkness Over Daggerford and have found it to be the best NWN single-player experience I've had yet.
Thanks guys, for both the validation and the suggestions :D

I'd actually downloaded Darkness Over Daggerford, but I hadn't tried it yet. I look forward to giving it a shot!
Play MP.
I would argue that most of the perceived cheesiness of the game stems from Lady Aribeth's unremittingly terrible voice-acting. The game is a great deal better when she's not around.
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fjdgshdkeavd: Are the legendary Planescape and Baldur's Gate games this hokey?
Well, I'd say give the Hordes of the Underdark expansion a bit more time before passing judgement on it. Just my opinion, but I thought it was the best of the included content. If you dislike that too then I guess multiplayer and user made modules would be all that comes to mind.

I'd go ahead and give Planescape Torment a try. You'll probably dislike Morte's sense of humor, but you may just appreciate the tone of the rest of the game. Betrayal at Krondor would be another good crpg pick. Very, very good writing I thought.

Good luck.
So, I started Darkness Over Daggerford and I really like it. I will probably come back to Hordes of the Underdark, because I've heard so many good things about it.

I think I can put my finger on what initially turned me off about the three campaigns: in each of them, your character's explicit goal, from the very beginning, is to go on a grand adventure and become a great hero. After playing several dozen RPGs, this just seems too cliched and cheesy.

Darkness Over Daggerford instead begins with a relatively ordinary character being placed in a sinister but ambiguous situation. I'm sure the rise-to-heroism will follow, but the situation was presented as an end in itself, rather than as an arbitrary excuse for you to do some conquering and leveling.
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fjdgshdkeavd: So, I started Darkness Over Daggerford and I really like it. I will probably come back to Hordes of the Underdark, because I've heard so many good things about it.

I think I can put my finger on what initially turned me off about the three campaigns: in each of them, your character's explicit goal, from the very beginning, is to go on a grand adventure and become a great hero. After playing several dozen RPGs, this just seems too cliched and cheesy.

Darkness Over Daggerford instead begins with a relatively ordinary character being placed in a sinister but ambiguous situation. I'm sure the rise-to-heroism will follow, but the situation was presented as an end in itself, rather than as an arbitrary excuse for you to do some conquering and leveling.
I hear you. You know, I still haven't gotten around to trying Darkness Over Daggerford, but you've piqued my interest. I think I'm going to give that a try sometime soon.
It's hard to take an environment seriously when every crate on a street corner has a +5 sword in it.
The reason you don't like the NWN OC is because it sucks.

"What are you? Like 2nd level? 3rd?" asks the boobalicious elf paladin, "All my champions are busy walking the walls. Go forth and save the city!"

"Yeah, Aribeth," you reply, "Sure. While I'm at it do us both a favor and study up on plot progression?"

Shadows of Undrentide doesn't suck. But if you really want to enjoy NWN you need to join an NWN multiplayer game.
Funny, I liked the OC and absolutely abhorred Hordes of the Underdark.
Hordes does not avoid cheesyness. It's a bit darker and pretty well written. But the basic thing is, there's this big dungeon full of monsters, because a wizard made it. Then you descend it because it's there and it's adventure... :/

I liked it, but I liked the OC as well.

Darkness on Daggerford is great though. Some other "down to earth" suggestions would be.

Bastard of Kosigan series. more realistic, better motivation, sexual content.

A Tangled Web, slow to start, down to earth, brilliant
Honestly, I had issues with the over-dramatic nature of the OC in Neverwinter Nights 1, and the boring nature of the OC in Neverwinter Nights 2. For me, I started playing multiplayer persistent worlds for quality RP. I started on Thain, which was great for over three years, and then moved on to The Way Inn (http://www.thewayinn.net), which is a bit darker, realistic (as much as a fantasy world can be, anyway), and feels more like pen and paper likely does.
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Jarmo: Hordes does not avoid cheesyness. It's a bit darker and pretty well written. But the basic thing is, there's this big dungeon full of monsters, because a wizard made it. Then you descend it because it's there and it's adventure... :/

I liked it, but I liked the OC as well.

Darkness on Daggerford is great though. Some other "down to earth" suggestions would be.

Bastard of Kosigan series. more realistic, better motivation, sexual content.

A Tangled Web, slow to start, down to earth, brilliant
So I downloaded Bastard of Kosigan, and I LOVE IT. SO MUCH!! Dude, I really cannot tell you how grateful I am to you for introducing me to this series. I wish you the best of karma. This module is on track to be one of my all-time favorite RPG experiences.

Seriously, I hope this favor is somehow returned to you. I am enjoying this module as much as anything I've played in years.

(no homo, btw.)
Post edited May 06, 2011 by fjdgshdkeavd