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I just filed a bug about the Steam integration (https://mantis2.gog.com/view.php?id=4385) and it was closed with this note:

"Thanks for feedback. The integrations for platforms other than GOG.COM and Xbox Live, are created by the community not by us. We can reach out to the developers of those integrations and suggest them some changes, but we won’t be able to make those changes ourselves."

I have to say this gives me a very bad feeling about Galaxy being the "platform of platforms". The Galaxy 2.0 website sells this as "All your games and friends in one place," saying "Install and launch any PC game you own, no matter the platform."

OK, but right now, there is only one official integration (Xbox). All of the other integrations, including Steam, by far the biggest PC gaming platform, are "community integrations". Which is fine if GOG wants to outsource help to the open source community. But these integrations are your product's #1 selling point, not a random plugin or mod. Every bullet point on the Galaxy 2.0 website relies on these integrations working properly.

GOG needs to take responsibility for fixing issues with the community integrations. You either need to commit to working with the open source developers who are maintaining these integrations and fixing issues, or fork the integrations and make them "official", or build new "official" integrations for the major platforms. Otherwise, Galaxy 2.0 is just a place to collect your GOG and Xbox games, plus maybe some other platforms (* But use at your own risk, and no guarantees that it'll work or continue to work), and that's much less exciting than what we've been promised.

(Maybe GOG is planning to build an official Steam integration before the official launch of Galaxy 2.0, who knows. I think it would be really unwise to launch this product without some better guarantee that it integrates with Steam other than "I dunno, we're not responsible for it.")
I disagree with GOG having to take responsibility for those. They got Microsoft support on this, if the other actors want to ignore this, this can only be done through free open source plugins (connecting to stores API) like they do.

One can't possibly be honest in demanding GOG to support everything, they made a tool allowing for such a feature. All they can do is push more people into using it, nothing more.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by Zoidberg
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Zoidberg: I disagree with GOG having to take responsibility for those. They got Microsoft support on this, if the other actors want to ignore this, this can only be done through free open source plugins (connecting to stores API) like they do.

One can't possibly be honest in demanding GOG to support everything, they made a tool allowing for such a feature. All they can do is push more people into using it, nothing more.
They need to revise the plug in's .
The marketing throught the galaxy 2.0 is "all your games in one place".
If they just leave the plataform for community and only support xbox (who need this shit console with a pc?) than is better go back to the 1.2.
lol
Many plug in's not worked properly , we are not programmers/coders.
We use the plataform, buying games on plataform, the minimal they can give to us is a review by professional coders on the plug in's.
Or the only official is the xbox share? If it is i will drops this.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by xKazerike
Forking an existing integration wouldn't make it ''official''. Yes GOG would be responsible with maintaining it, but it would still not become an officialially endorsed thing from Steam or others just because GOG is doing it. They currently got Microsoft on board for the Xbox plug-in, probably either talking to or rejected by other platforms (right now). There's not much more they can do here in the sense of officially providing support besides those GOG/Xbox.

Also I feel like its worded a bit weird, since all the most populair integrations come from the same github page. Which I have no doubt about were endorsed by GOG in some way otherwise they would not have included them in the Alpha/Beta. They had to give out the documentation to devs anyway in order for them to make these plugins in the first place. So while the answer you got on mantis was worded like 'oh we don't provide support to these, cause we didn't make them'' is probably not 100 percent accurate.

I don't currently want to delve deeper into the Steam API difference, but the way you are explaining it does kind of feel like a hacky way to get Steam to work. And it doesn't bode well if Steam says nope you can't use that in the (near) future and the plugin just stops working completely.

If the official API's are available and most importantly, capable of doing the same thing, then I agree they should be changed. Especially since Valve could change it so it doesn't work in the (near) future. But then again, if GOG ever gets Valve on board they can make their own plug-in that maybe even has better access then the standard API's.

But for now, if it works it works. It's still the beta and there's a long way to go. It's good you explored this API difference and maybe they'll do something about it.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by Evixios
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Evixios: Forking an existing integration wouldn't make it ''official''. Yes GOG would be responsible with maintaining it, but it would still not become an officialially endorsed thing from Steam or others just because GOG is doing it. They currently got Microsoft on board for the Xbox plug-in, probably either talking to or rejected by other platforms (right now). There's not much more they can do here in the sense of officially providing support besides those GOG/Xbox.

Also I feel like its worded a bit weird, since all the most populair integrations come from the same github page. Which I have no doubt about were endorsed by GOG in some way otherwise they would not have included them in the Alpha/Beta. They had to give out the documentation to devs anyway in order for them to make these plugins in the first place. So while the answer you got on mantis was worded like 'oh we don't provide support to these, cause we didn't make them'' is probably not 100 percent accurate.

I don't currently want to delve deeper into the Steam API difference, but the way you are explaining it does kind of feel like a hacky way to get Steam to work. And it doesn't bode well if Steam says nope you can't use that in the (near) future and the plugin just stops working completely.

If the official API's are available and most importantly, capable of doing the same thing, then I agree they should be changed. Especially since Valve could change it so it doesn't work in the (near) future. But then again, if GOG ever gets Valve on board they can make their own plug-in that maybe even has better access then the standard API's.

But for now, if it works it works. It's still the beta and there's a long way to go. It's good you explored this API difference and maybe they'll do something about it.
That's the problem.
If one day the ''indie'' dev's don't want to make a plug in's for free anymore or fix, etc etc.
We need a official support of this.
The plug in's are open source, why they can't change/fix/hone them?
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xKazerike: only support xbox (who need this shit console with a pc?)
Not saying/arguing i wouldn't also prefer to have other Integrations as official ones either, but you are pretty ignorant PC-Master-Race if you think there aren't people who Use Xbox or other Consoles as well(and yes even as a PC-User i'm a happy Xbox owner).

Infact the Reason why i'm even more hyped for this Tool, than other Competitors like Playnite and such, is that i also can link my Consoles as well(only Nintendo-Switch is missing) and get informations from there as well(plus it looks nicer than it's competitors except if you pay for the premium of LaunchBox). If marketing says "All-Games in on launcher" than i'd argue Consoles and such should counts as well.

And the Reason why Xbox have an official support is due how open Microsoft have gotten about such thinks in the past few years...
Post edited July 24, 2019 by LightningYu
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xKazerike: only support xbox (who need this shit console with a pc?)
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LightningYu: Not saying/arguing i wouldn't also prefer to have other Integrations as official ones either, but you are pretty ignorant PC-Master-Race if you think there aren't people who Use Xbox or other Consoles as well(and yes even as a PC-User i'm a happy Xbox owner).
Nice bro, but u have to agree with me.
The xbox is the most useless integration they could have choose to become ''oficial''.
Whatever, gog is a PC plataform. :D not console.
AS a PC plataform the focus is on PC GAMERS.
We wan't mac/linux/windows port's, (2 of those also have).
We wan't OFICIAL support OF PC PLATAFORMS.
Steam, twitch, origin, epic, uplay, battle.net, nc soft launcher, trion launcher, Bethesda etc etc.
The marketing throught this is 'all your games in one place''
ALL, A - L - L.
Not XBOX GAMES AND GOG IN ONE PLACE.
Fuck that console bro, honestly. No one gives a shit about that console xD.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by xKazerike
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LightningYu: Not saying/arguing i wouldn't also prefer to have other Integrations as official ones either, but you are pretty ignorant PC-Master-Race if you think there aren't people who Use Xbox or other Consoles as well(and yes even as a PC-User i'm a happy Xbox owner).
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xKazerike: Nice bro, but u have to agree with me.
The xbox is the most useless integration they could have choose to become ''oficial''.
Whatever, gog is a PC plataform. :D not console.
AS a PC plataform the focus is on PC GAMERS.
We wan't mac/linux/windows port's, (2 of those also have).
We wan't OFICIAL support OF PC PLATAFORMS.
Steam, twitch, origin, epic, uplay, battle.net, nc soft launcher, trion launcher, Bethesda etc etc.
The marketing throught this is 'all your games in one place''
ALL, A - L - L.
Not XBOX GAMES AND GOG IN ONE PLACE.
Fuck that console bro, honestly. No one gives a shit about that console xD.
It's nice for you to have an opinion but you shouldn't talk in place of GOG. :P

And you fail to see how devs stopping the development of a plugin doesn't matter with opensource.

If it happens, then guess what? You can get the sources and do it yourself. ;)
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xKazerike: Nice bro, but u have to agree with me.
The xbox is the most useless integration they could have choose to become ''oficial''.
Whatever, gog is a PC plataform. :D not console.
AS a PC plataform the focus is on PC GAMERS.
We wan't mac/linux/windows port's, (2 of those also have).
We wan't OFICIAL support OF PC PLATAFORMS.
Steam, twitch, origin, epic, uplay, battle.net, nc soft launcher, trion launcher, Bethesda etc etc.
The marketing throught this is 'all your games in one place''
ALL, A - L - L.
Not XBOX GAMES AND GOG IN ONE PLACE.
Fuck that console bro, honestly. No one gives a shit about that console xD.
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Zoidberg: It's nice for you to have an opinion but you shouldn't talk in place of GOG. :P

And you fail to see how devs stopping the development of a plugin doesn't matter with opensource.

If it happens, then guess what? You can get the sources and do it yourself. ;)
i'm not a coder, i'm will need to wait some one with goodwill to do this =\
If i'm invest my money on the plataforma i'm want a official sup
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LightningYu: Not saying/arguing i wouldn't also prefer to have other Integrations as official ones either, but you are pretty ignorant PC-Master-Race if you think there aren't people who Use Xbox or other Consoles as well(and yes even as a PC-User i'm a happy Xbox owner).
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xKazerike: Nice bro, but u have to agree with me.
The xbox is the most useless integration they could have choose to become ''oficial''.
Whatever, gog is a PC plataform. :D not console.
AS a PC plataform the focus is on PC GAMERS.
We wan't mac/linux/windows port's, (2 of those also have).
We wan't OFICIAL support OF PC PLATAFORMS.
Steam, twitch, origin, epic, uplay, battle.net, nc soft launcher, trion launcher, Bethesda etc etc.
The marketing throught this is 'all your games in one place''
ALL, A - L - L.
Not XBOX GAMES AND GOG IN ONE PLACE.
Fuck that console bro, honestly. No one gives a shit about that console xD.
I don't have to agree with you on anything you said.
GoG is owned by CDPR, which means the Developers of the Witcher-Series and the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077, so obviously it's important for them to offer Support for Console-Games as well, and if Microsoft is the only one, who want to official support them, than yeah - its obvious why this is official and (so far) none of the others. Even further due Xbox is part of PC-Gaming due Play-Anywhere and Gamepass. (And as far as i understood they work on the Plugin so said Games will also recognized from Galaxy 2.0.) Also i'd argue it would pretty dumb for them due some childish PC-Master-Race-Elitelists think otherwise and believe that 41Mill Sold Units is "no-one-gives-a-shit-about-that-console" to miss the oppurtinity to bind Xbox Owners to their own Storefront-Tool.

And so far they didn't even break their Promise with that. I could connect, except Nintendo Switch with all of my current Plattforms plus Launchers. I've my steam, my bethesda, my uplay, my EGS(as much as i despise EGS) Launcher, my Origins etc in my Galaxy 2.0 Library, even without being "official" in that sense you want it. It's not Perfect, but i still got what they said to us. So yeah: All in one Place.
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Zoidberg: It's nice for you to have an opinion but you shouldn't talk in place of GOG. :P

And you fail to see how devs stopping the development of a plugin doesn't matter with opensource.

If it happens, then guess what? You can get the sources and do it yourself. ;)
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xKazerike: i'm not a coder, i'm will need to wait some one with goodwill to do this =\
If i'm invest my money on the plataforma i'm want a official sup
I don't see where anyone needed to pay Money for GoG Galaxy 2.0 because it's basically an free Tool. Even if you would come with the Argument "but i payed for the Games" in the end yes you guessed; you paid only for the Games not for the tool itself.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by LightningYu
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xKazerike: Nice bro, but u have to agree with me.
The xbox is the most useless integration they could have choose to become ''oficial''.
Whatever, gog is a PC plataform. :D not console.
AS a PC plataform the focus is on PC GAMERS.
We wan't mac/linux/windows port's, (2 of those also have).
We wan't OFICIAL support OF PC PLATAFORMS.
Steam, twitch, origin, epic, uplay, battle.net, nc soft launcher, trion launcher, Bethesda etc etc.
The marketing throught this is 'all your games in one place''
ALL, A - L - L.
Not XBOX GAMES AND GOG IN ONE PLACE.
Fuck that console bro, honestly. No one gives a shit about that console xD.
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LightningYu: I don't have to agree with you on anything you said.
GoG is owned by CDPR, which means the Developers of the Witcher-Series and the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077, so obviously it's important for them to offer Support for Console-Games as well, and if Microsoft is the only one, who want to official support them, than yeah - its obvious why this is official and (so far) none of the others. Even further due Xbox is part of PC-Gaming due Play-Anywhere and Gamepass. (And as far as i understood they work on the Plugin so said Games will also recognized from Galaxy 2.0.) Also i'd argue it would pretty dumb for them due some childish PC-Master-Race-Elitelists think otherwise and believe that 41Mill Sold Units is "no-one-gives-a-shit-about-that-console" to miss the oppurtinity to bind Xbox Owners to their own Storefront-Tool.

And so far they didn't even break their Promise with that. I could connect, except Nintendo Switch with all of my current Plattforms plus Launchers. I've my steam, my bethesda, my uplay, my EGS(as much as i despise EGS) Launcher, my Origins etc in my Galaxy 2.0 Library, even without being "official" in that sense you want it. It's not Perfect, but i still got what they said to us. So yeah: All in one Place.
Steam/valve has a official tool for third app/site or anything else to take your information.
So that thing ''valve don't want an implementation'' don't exist xD.
Console is very important, xbox sell's 15% of total witcher 3 copies , sell's anything on 2, and don't have a witcher 1 port.
But ok, thank's for the ''historical gog information''
Post edited July 24, 2019 by xKazerike
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LightningYu: I don't have to agree with you on anything you said.
GoG is owned by CDPR, which means the Developers of the Witcher-Series and the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077, so obviously it's important for them to offer Support for Console-Games as well, and if Microsoft is the only one, who want to official support them, than yeah - its obvious why this is official and (so far) none of the others. Even further due Xbox is part of PC-Gaming due Play-Anywhere and Gamepass. (And as far as i understood they work on the Plugin so said Games will also recognized from Galaxy 2.0.) Also i'd argue it would pretty dumb for them due some childish PC-Master-Race-Elitelists think otherwise and believe that 41Mill Sold Units is "no-one-gives-a-shit-about-that-console" to miss the oppurtinity to bind Xbox Owners to their own Storefront-Tool.

And so far they didn't even break their Promise with that. I could connect, except Nintendo Switch with all of my current Plattforms plus Launchers. I've my steam, my bethesda, my uplay, my EGS(as much as i despise EGS) Launcher, my Origins etc in my Galaxy 2.0 Library, even without being "official" in that sense you want it. It's not Perfect, but i still got what they said to us. So yeah: All in one Place.
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xKazerike: Steam/valve has a official tool for third app/site or anything else to take your information.
So that thing ''valve don't want an implementation'' don't exist xD.
Console is very important, xbox sell's 15% of total witcher 3 copies , sell's anything on 2, and don't have a witcher 1 port.
But ok, thank's for the ''historical gog information''
Well, they official stated that 70% of the sold units of Witcher 3 went on Consoles, 30% on PC, so even if your Argument of 15% versus 55% Xbox to PS4 Ratio is correct, with ~20 Million sold units it would be still 3,000,000 units on Xbox, which is a big number for potential gog user. And again supports overall my argument about that Consoles themself are equally important to them.

And yes i know that Steam have said API, but how'd you know if they won't close the gate for the galaxy 2.0 due it's an direct competitor to their own storefront. I'd argue the API itself was meant for an different purpose (to read out statistics) than having an competitor storefront which offers an all-in-one integration.

But well, i'm done with this topic anyway.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by LightningYu
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xKazerike: Steam/valve has a official tool for third app/site or anything else to take your information.
So that thing ''valve don't want an implementation'' don't exist xD.
Console is very important, xbox sell's 15% of total witcher 3 copies , sell's anything on 2, and don't have a witcher 1 port.
But ok, thank's for the ''historical gog information''
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LightningYu: Well, they official stated that 70% of the sold units of Witcher 3 went on Consoles, 30% on PC, so even if your Argument of 15% versus 55% Xbox to PS4 Ratio is correct, with ~20 Million sold units it would be still 3,000,000 units on Xbox, which is a big number for potential gog user. And again supports overall my argument about that Consoles themself are equally important to them.

And yes i know that Steam have said API, but how'd you know if they won't close the gate for the galaxy 2.0 due it's an direct competitor to their own storefront. I'd argue the API itself was meant for an different purpose (to read out statistics) than having an competitor storefront which offers an all-in-one integration.

But well, i'm done with this topic anyway.
THe 15% argument is on the official cd projekt Financial report, is not a invention from my mind.
I'm done too.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by xKazerike
It's either they need to take responsibility or have a way to moderate changes. It seems super easy for something bad to happen with no backfire.

Plus, how to you give bug feedback to a community made plugin.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by badcoupon
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badcoupon: Plus, how to you give bug feedback to a community made plugin.
https://github.com/gogcom/galaxy-integrations-python-api/issues

You're welcome.
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xKazerike: i'm not a coder, i'm will need to wait some one with goodwill to do this =\
Exactly.
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xKazerike: If i'm invest my money on the plataforma i'm want a official sup
You're an investor? Why whine on the forum instead of talking to GOG ceo then? :P

Just joking. Yes, Galaxy is a free tool.
Post edited July 24, 2019 by Zoidberg