Zolgar: Dude, piracy sites don't really educate their user base either. At best they have something saying "No transfer of copyrighted materials you don't have the authority to transfer." or some such like that.
and what relevance that has here?
Torrents actually very specifically have a way that 'bypasses the illegality' of it, which they basically flaunt making it "legal". (In case you're unaware, a small enough piece of something copyrighted, like a couple second clip of a song for example, falls under 'fair use' and can be used, distributed, altered, etc. without any fear of legal issues. Torrents break the files down in to lots of tiny pieces of it, small enough to easily fall under 'fair use', which you then get from numerous people.)
no no no. that does not work like that. It would be stupid as you divide everything into chunks (scan a sentence here, scan another here and with a bit of time you have a copy of whole book) and you always divide stuff into chunks with digital stuff. torrenting movies, games etc. is not legal unless of course legal owner put that movie, game etc. as torrent.
Whoever told you that it falls under fair use is either a troll or total moron.
If your problem is what they do and how they do it, then your problem has nothing to do with the people who abuse it. It has to do with their setup. Don't call it on the people abusing it, when.. abuse is a natural byproduct of everything, and I think people who use sites like that (as opposed to direct piracy sites) are more prone to obtain the game legitimately if they have a chance to.
the problem is that abandonware sites lie to the user base. the term abandonware for example. No software since 70s is abandoned as in its copyright is voided (that includes software released for free. EA still holds rights over Red Alert 1 even tough its free to download and copy) Downloading those software is breaking the law
How you're defining this is like..
"I don't like Ford, because Ford makes the Mustang, which is a sports car, and doesn't advertise that driving fast is illegal and dangerous, so the people who buy the Mustang will want to drive it fast."
Ford is a company. They are in business. they follow the law. Your comparison between Ford and Abandonia fails because of that. Abandonia is committing a crime for noble reasons such as preservation of old games. Yet they are not frank with what they do. That's the problem here.
Also, for just a moment here, let's look at the 'legal grey area' completely honestly.
Yes, it's illegal in most countries due to being a copyright violation. However, copyright violation is something that is only an enforced law when the copyright holders go after those violating it.
Many of those games were probably acquired in bulk in some buy-out somewhere, completely unknown, or are in states where no one really knows (or cares) who the IP holders are anymore.
In so long as the copyright holders are not doing anything with the copyright themselves, nor have done so for many years, nor are protecting it in any way shape or form, a site such as that really isn't doing anything they can get in trouble for.
That's why they call it abandonware.
To compare it to Arkham City is like comparing taking an ink pen (which the owner left on the table a week ago) to stealing someone's car.
Mate. the problem is not whether its morally alright to pirate from abandonware sites. that's not the issue.
the abuse comes from the fact that people believe abandonware sites are not pirate sites. They are breaking the copyright law. law which works exactly the same way for Wizardy 1 or Batman arkham city. There is no distinction here between these two titles. there is no grey area whatsoever. ultima 1 copyright is as strong as Skyrim copyright.
thats why i blame the site for the abuse. that they are so noble yet bullshit about something which should be put clear if they were honest.
downloading games from abandonware sites is a piracy, you are breaking a law and might be prosecuted if caught.
by not saying that they are to be blamed for the abuse of their userbase.