Posted April 10, 2013
StingingVelvet
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Immoli
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Posted April 10, 2013
Neobr10: Even big companies like Activision and Bethesda use Steam's servers for their games instead of hosting their own for fuck's sake.
What is the Nexus? http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/
Mods don't require steam workshop. And is the nexus even official, or is it fan made?
amok
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Posted April 10, 2013
Neobr10: Even big companies like Activision and Bethesda use Steam's servers for their games instead of hosting their own for fuck's sake.
Immoli: What is the Nexus? http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/
Mods don't require steam workshop. And is the nexus even official, or is it fan made?
And it is run by fans.
Post edited April 10, 2013 by amok
mondo84
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Posted April 10, 2013
Could a place like Mod DB serve as a platform for storing and distributing user content and mods for the DRM-free version?
Aningan
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Posted April 10, 2013
I'll get the Steam version as I'm not that against Steam to get an inferior version (if we have to make a choice between the two versions). Sure I would prefer a GOG version for example any day of the week but I'll have to settle for the Steam version. And make no mistake the DRM free version is inferior. Unless you really expect the game to be bug free and not require patches.
And if they ever do another kickstarter I'll be sure to stay away.
And if they ever do another kickstarter I'll be sure to stay away.
Post edited April 10, 2013 by Aningan
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SLP2000
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland
Posted April 10, 2013
SimonG: Anyway, as with the whole DRM ideology itself, this discussion is ultimately pointless and insignificant. I personally expect more Kickstarters going this way. Especially once the first batch is delivered and 98% have redeemed their Steam keys.
I am very, very happy to have backed this game, being in the credits, having a shirt, some tags and (hopefully) a truly great game
You argument is invalid - even I will redeem Steam key, but that doesn't mean I'd back this KS if I knew they would release DLC Steam exclusive. I am very, very happy to have backed this game, being in the credits, having a shirt, some tags and (hopefully) a truly great game
I'd like to point out that I'm perfectly fine with Kickstarters that are Steam-only (except I'm not backing them), but right now it looks like they were fine with DRM-free when they wanted my money, but after they got them, then they think it's ok to give me something that they won't support later.
I'm not going to buy DLC for Steam version, so I don't think that's good business for HBS.
Right now they say that it will be easier for them to use Steam. I really can't see why they can't use Humble Store to distribute DLC, it's just as easy, as creating exe and putting it on Humble Store. Not really hard to achieve.
And last thing - big publishers may not be interested in DRM-free people, there are not that many of them. But small devs should think to sell as many units as possible. There are many devs who used DRM for years and when they finally went DRM-free they said that DRM was nonsense from the beginning.
Anyway, I'm not happy with HBS, but I think they will change their mind. If they don't trust gamers, I'll be happy if they announce that DLC will be DRM-free after 3-6 months.
Aningan: I'll get the Steam version as I'm not that against Steam to get an inferior version (if we have to make a choice between the two versions). Sure I would prefer a GOG version for example any day of the week but I'll have to settle for the Steam version. And make no mistake the DRM free version is inferior. Unless you really expect the game to be bug free and not require patches.
And if they ever do another kickstarter I'll be sure to stay away.
I think they will provide steam key to everyone + you will be able to download DRM-free copy.And if they ever do another kickstarter I'll be sure to stay away.
Post edited April 10, 2013 by SLP2000
mondo84
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Posted April 10, 2013
Yea I only realized a couple months ago that Mod DB was connected to and more or less run by Desura. But I think Mod DB has content for non-Desura games as well, like Half-Life 2 mods. But I'm not sure if those HL2 mods are standalone games or require HL2 to run.
oldschool
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Posted April 10, 2013
I'm new to all this. Was there ever a GOG version planed? Steam is okay, but it's not my first choice.
amok
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Posted April 10, 2013
mondo84: Yea I only realized a couple months ago that Mod DB was connected to and more or less run by Desura. But I think Mod DB has content for non-Desura games as well, like Half-Life 2 mods. But I'm not sure if those HL2 mods are standalone games or require HL2 to run.
do you need an account to download though? Either Mod DB or Desura. If the game is DRM free, then there really would not be any difference between this and steam (as with Nexus for larger files) - it requires a third party account. Does it? and you get non-desura games mods through Desura, all the Halflife mods are there (example - http://www.desura.com/mods/no-more-room-in-hell)
No.
Post edited April 10, 2013 by amok
mondo84
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Posted April 10, 2013
I think you need an account (just a login name), but it's not prohibitive at all. If the content is "DRM-free" then it's no different then logging into GOG's site and downloading a game, then doing with it as one pleases. Same with Desura itself - you can download games DRM-free and save the installers.
I guess I'm trying to say, maybe HBS could consider using Desura/ModDB to distribute their DRM-free version (GOG also, hopefully). But even GOG users could download mods and other stuff from ModDB and use it in their DRM-free version (which would be the same version as that on Desura).
I guess I'm trying to say, maybe HBS could consider using Desura/ModDB to distribute their DRM-free version (GOG also, hopefully). But even GOG users could download mods and other stuff from ModDB and use it in their DRM-free version (which would be the same version as that on Desura).
Post edited April 10, 2013 by mondo84
Fictionvision
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted April 10, 2013
You don't need an account to download anything unless you have to pay for it on Desura. When you click a link you click view stand alone downloads and you get a direct link to the file. Same for bought purchases if you are logged in.
Elmofongo
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Posted April 10, 2013
Damn you steam, and worse Steam is pretty much fucked up on my laptop (it still works on my bros desktop) because I have left it offline for too long that it basically won't turn back online because I forgot to update so Steam offline is really not Offline.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/i_have_beaten_amnesia_the_dark_descent/page1
SimonG: Anyway, I'm done discussing it.
I had imagined spending my free day playing games and ferociously masturbating. In the end, I spend it arguing and ferociously masturbating.
Lucky for me I had the smart part of the community to discuss with.
Anyway, as with the whole DRM ideology itself, this discussion is ultimately pointless and insignificant. I personally expect more Kickstarters going this way. Especially once the first batch is delivered and 98% have redeemed their Steam keys.
I am very, very happy to have backed this game, being in the credits, having a shirt, some tags and (hopefully) a truly great game
Hey SimonG long time no see, did you see my Amnesia thread? I had imagined spending my free day playing games and ferociously masturbating. In the end, I spend it arguing and ferociously masturbating.
Lucky for me I had the smart part of the community to discuss with.
Anyway, as with the whole DRM ideology itself, this discussion is ultimately pointless and insignificant. I personally expect more Kickstarters going this way. Especially once the first batch is delivered and 98% have redeemed their Steam keys.
I am very, very happy to have backed this game, being in the credits, having a shirt, some tags and (hopefully) a truly great game
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/i_have_beaten_amnesia_the_dark_descent/page1
Post edited April 10, 2013 by Elmofongo
Reever
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Posted April 10, 2013
If it was advertised as a DRM free game, I'd call BS on it.
amok
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Posted April 10, 2013
amok: do you need an account to download though? Either Mod DB or Desura. If the game is DRM free, then there really would not be any difference between this and steam (as with Nexus for larger files) - it requires a third party account. Does it?
Fictionvision: You don't need an account to download anything unless you have to pay for it on Desura. When you click a link you click view stand alone downloads and you get a direct link to the file. Same for bought purchases if you are logged in.