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Posted September 17, 2014
Spacecom, a strategic-to-the-bone, starfleet command game with minimalistic art and heavy focus on multiplayer, is available for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux on GOG.com, for only $14.99*.

Spacecom is a battle of strategists in which deception, smart movement, and choices to battle decide victory or defeat. No coincidence, no luck. Spacecom pushes your ability to strategize with a focus on real-time tactics and planning. Use proven maneuvers learned from military legends or devise your own plans. Dominate your enemies in planetary systems with up to six players per campaign. Most of all, you'll need a bright mind, cunning, and sound tactics. With sound designed specifically to trigger strategic thinking, and minimalistic visual design inspired by military technology you can soon find Spacecom becoming a new strategic addiction you'll happily share with your friends.

*$14.99 is the basic price for this title in the US. Other prices will apply in different countries. If you end up paying more than than the US price, we will reimburse the difference from our own pocket, giving it back to you in store credit (this is what we call the "Fair Price Package").
Posted September 17, 2014
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Redfern: So, its 349Rub for Russia (assume ~39rub P_P per 1$)
Its 9.49$ for Russia :)
Posted September 17, 2014
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Matruchus: Its 9.49$ for Russia :)
Dont forget our exchange ratio is very unstable lately.
Posted September 17, 2014
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Matruchus: Its 9.49$ for Russia :)
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Redfern: Dont forget our exchange ratio is very unstable lately.
Well I don't know what is correct it says 365 rub on XE currency converter for 9.49$. Hope that everything stabilises slowly that you won't have to many price changes.
Post edited September 17, 2014 by Matruchus
Posted September 17, 2014
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Matruchus: Well I don't know what is correct it says 365 rub on XE currency converter. Hope that everything stabilises slowly that you won't have to many price changes.
Well, our Central Bank of Russia says its 38,3724 per 1$ - http://www.cbr.ru/
9,51$ - mostly same result.
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: But it isn´t unfair at all as you are EFFECTIVLY (transferred on all games) paying exectly the same amouth of money as if it would have been priced like in the old GOG days...
It isn't the same, because GOG has to pay the difference out of it's pocket. And it isn't fair, if people from poor European countries (like Romania or Bulgaria) have to pay the highest price worldwide.
Posted September 17, 2014
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PaterAlf: I buy a lot of games on GOG, but yet it isn't irrelevant to me. Buying those games would send the wrong signal to the developers and publishers in my eyes and it would encourage more and more of them to adopt the (most times) unfair price model.
+1.
That's exactly my view too.
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: But it isn´t unfair at all as you are EFFECTIVLY (transferred on all games) paying exectly the same amouth of money as if it would have been priced like in the old GOG days...
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PaterAlf: It isn't the same, because GOG has to pay the difference out of it's pocket. And it isn't fair, if people from poor European countries (like Romania or Bulgaria) have to pay the highest price worldwide.
Hmmm...
...have to agree, this sounds really strange...
...but does it really matter? DRM-free gaming always had something to do with waiting---> and in this case it´s simply waiting for sales, isn´t it?
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: ...but does it really matter? DRM-free gaming always had something to do with waiting---> and in this case it´s simply waiting for sales, isn´t it?
That's what I do. I wait for the regional price to get removed and will buy the game in a sale then. But I think it's important to tell the developers and publishers why I didn't buy their game at full price and that they could get my money on day one, if they just stop doing nonsense like regional pricing.
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: ...but does it really matter? DRM-free gaming always had something to do with waiting---> and in this case it´s simply waiting for sales, isn´t it?
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PaterAlf: That's what I do. I wait for the regional price to get removed and will buy the game in a sale then. But I think it's important to tell the developers and publishers why I didn't buy their game at full price and that they could get my money on day one, if they just stop doing nonsense like regional pricing.
I´m still conviced that even if I´d have to choose between CRUEL (so no fair price package included!) regional pricement and no DRM-free Version at all I´d always choose the DRM-free version!
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: But it isn´t unfair at all as you are EFFECTIVLY (transferred on all games) paying exectly the same amouth of money as if it would have been priced like in the old GOG days...
Here's another aspect of why it's not the same.
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: But it isn´t unfair at all as you are EFFECTIVLY (transferred on all games) paying exectly the same amouth of money as if it would have been priced like in the old GOG days...
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HypersomniacLive: Here's another aspect of why it's not the same.
Yes, that´s right if you look at the first game bought, but I was viewing at ALL games bought by one person on GOG.com that is WILLING to buy tons of games on here (which applies to all "believers" around)!

Let me do an example: Person buys first game on GOG for 7€ (5€+2€ FPP), then buys a game for 5€ (7€-2€), one for 14€ (10€+4€ FPP), then one for 0€ (4€-4€).
Total money spend: 7+5+4+0=26 [€]
Total money spend with FairPricingOutOfTheBox: 5+7+10+4= 26 [€]

You see that there isn´t any problem for the "believers"?Espacially if you remember that it´ll never expise---> and even this wouldn´t be a problem, as a believer is buying fast enough to avoid such a problem... :D
Post edited September 17, 2014 by RadonGOG
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: I´m still conviced that even if I´d have to choose between CRUEL (so no fair price package included!) regional pricement and no DRM-free Version at all I´d always choose the DRM-free version!
Well, I won't make that choice. Both things are bad in my eyes and so I won't support them with my money. And I'm sure I will still find more than enough games I can play that neither have DRM nor are regional priced.
Posted September 17, 2014
Looked like a fun strategy space 4x

Minimalist graphics - I'm a wargamer, not a problem

Regional pricing - not good but I'll judge it on the price I have to pay


Multiplayer focus - total loss of interest
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: I´m still conviced that even if I´d have to choose between CRUEL (so no fair price package included!) regional pricement and no DRM-free Version at all I´d always choose the DRM-free version!
Both DRM and regional pricing mean problems, although different ones.

DRM is not an option for me and that's why I'm here.
On the other hand regional pricing for some countries like Germany and Greece means that we have always to pay a higher price for the same games. There's a fair price package on GoG.com, but money equal to that higher regional price should be subtracted from our credit cards and what if all the games we wish for have regional price?
Posted September 17, 2014
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RadonGOG: Yes, that´s right if you look at the first game bought, but I was viewing at ALL games bought by one person on GOG.com that is WILLING to buy tons of games on here (which applies to all "believers" around)!

Let me do an example: Person buys first game on GOG for 7€ (5€+2€ FPP), then buys a game for 5€ (7€-2€), one for 14€ (10€+4€ FPP), then one for 0€ (4€-4€).
Total money spend: 7+5+4+0=26 [€]
Total money spend with FairPricingOutOfTheBox: 5+7+10+4= 26 [€]

You see that there isn´t any problem for the "believers"?Espacially if you remember that it´ll never expise---> and even this wouldn´t be a problem, as a believer is buying fast enough to avoid such a problem... :D
It's still not the same, because:
- One has to spend more money at the time of purchase, money they might not be able to spare at that time to spend on a game.
- The extra money is then tied up here, i.e. like a down-payment for a future purchase, again money that one may not be able to spare at the time.
- The store credit expires within a year of date of purchase.

Being a believer has nth to do with being able to constantly purchase games so that the "down payments"/ store credit don't get stuck in limbo. Life is unpredictable and one can unexpectedly face long term financial changes/ difficulties that would force them to prioritise, even to the point of not being able to allocate any amount on games for weeks or even months.

GOG's FPP is laudable, but it's far from ideal, plus it doesn't help steer things into the right direction (i.e. change of an industry practice), and if the flood of regionally priced games released lately is anything to go by, it appears to have already put them into a disadvantageous position in terms of negotiating power for flat prices.

I don't claim to know an easy and commercially viable solution to this, but I'm sceptical about where things are going.
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