Sometimes things are'nt just as easy. I mean, if publisher XYZ wants regional prices and GOG says "no, not with us", when it can be that this publisher not only let GOG didn't sell these new game but also take them all the other games away.

I believe this happens with Nordic. My guess is that Nordic also wants this "old" games to be regional priced (because of Steam) and GOG answer this with a "no". And so these games are now lost for GOG's customers....

The problem is that all the new games are indies and indie developers who were before prepared to do flat pricing are now using gogs change in pricing policy to regionally price their games. Don't see any reason that those games would not have come here if gog was still using the flat pricing policy. Still no AAA games here which were the "supposed" reason that gog implemented regional pricing. Anyway only time will tell.

Yes, it could happen that publishers are pushing pressure on GOG. But until now it worked with the worldwide prices. Also Nordic here said that it wasn't the flat prices, it was more the second currency which bothered them. For me I don't like regional prices and do not want to support them. So I won't buy here anymore any regionally priced game. What is the advantage of that?

I also wonder how big the negotiation power of GOG really is. They said they don't like regional pricing and want to fight against it - however so far they weren't very successful in this department. What will be the outcome in the end? Every game on GOG with regional prices? Okay, they have their compensation scheme and actually this is what sets them apart from the rest. They are a bit better and I should praise them for it. GOG you're still my hero, but...

My feeling is that DRM will win and I want to weep but I cannot.
If I would be an indie dev I would use regional pricing in any case now because GOG pays the compensation out of their own pockets. So more people will buy the game in non US regions and more profit for the dev. And they said there is no free lunch. With the price compensation GOG sets an incentive towards regional pricing. Kind of well meant, but backfiring.

To be fair, not every game coming out has regional pricing and certainly not every indie game. Only 3 of the 7 releases since then have had regional pricing and the only true indie that had it was the Surgeon Simulator DLC. So let's not exaggerate the issue.

Yeah I think its obvious to a blind person that indies will use the option to regionally price games. Some might still go for flat pricing but I don't think that's going to happen a lot. We shall see after a few months what will happen. The short time span that regional pricing options are available to developers is too short to make any real conclusions out of it yet but it does not look well.

Please elaborate on your definition of "true indie".

Entertainment is not a luxury (people who become homeless go nuts real fast, not having access to entertainment), and it's not fair that some people can't afford it (or food, clothes, and lodging for that matter). For my definition of fair, of course.

Extra digital copies have arbitrary value. Only the first copy ever has a defined "value".

That's a bizarre circular nonsequitur based on a flimsy premise. You start out from the assumption senior and student discounts are fair. Why should they be? Ubiquity and common practice doesn't imply fairness.

Wut. That's like arguing against social security because anyone can be rich.

The other two games regionally priced so far were Wasteland 2 and Hatoful Boyfriend. Wasteland 2 is clearly from an old industry pro, and Hatoful Boyfriend really was the development of a Manga author as a visual novel. While you might classify that as an indie title, at the same it would be like Dark Knight comics creating a video game. It's a successful writer branching out.

I don't see any other indie games released with DLC since August 27th, so the claim that every game coming out and which will come out from now on having regional pricing is a fallacy.

I'd hazard a guess, self-published.

Edit: ninja'd, but what the heck, RWarehall. So if you're famous, you're no longer independent?

But here's my point, these 4 games came out after regional pricing supposedly was let out of the bag and they don't have it.

Q.U.B.E.: Director's Cut
Hogs of War
MIND: Path to Thalamus
Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure

So it's clearly not all indie games are going to be regionally priced. Heck, GoG didn't let Nordic regionally price their old games (at the very least for the price they wanted), why is it so definite that everything is now regionally priced? That's all I'm saying.

"Yeah I think its obvious to a blind person that indies will use the option to regionally price games."
This statement is full of it! It's just not true so far. Obvious to a blind person. C'mon, you are clearly the one blind!
These regional pricing threads are starting to sound like the Zoe threads. The sky is falling, misogynist gamers are everywhere, it's end of gaming as we know it. How about just chilling out. GoG is still clearly holding the line on some pricing or we wouldn't have lost those 35 games. They aren't just going to let anybody and everybody regionally price especially since they are paying the difference.

I have tried to explain this a few days befor...I send my post again!

"I think, I can explain you the thing about "Hatoful Boyfriend". I'm not from GOG, but I believe I have a good explanation.

I think the problem is the new regulation with different currencies. As long as the prices on GOG there all in $ they seems to be the same on GOG as they are on Steam (for example).

Example: The "losing" games "Gothic 2", "Black Mirror", "Guild" and so on all cost 9.99 $ on GoG and they cost 9.99 € on Steam. For someone who don't look too close or calculate it through it seems to be the same price. But 1 $ isn't 1 €.

Now the prices here in Europe are in €. This means there doesn't stand 9.99 anymore. Instead it reads 7.49 €. Even the most stupid idiot realises with one look that he or she can spare nearly 25 % if he or she buys on GOG instead of on Steam. And that will really p*sses Valve off.

And I believe as well that Valve have the power to force companies like Nordic to do something about that or be kicked out of their store Steam.

The same now by Hatoful Boyfriend. It cost 7.99 € on Steam so it costs the same on GOG...on the first look. But if you look closer it only costs here 7.49 €. Nethertheless the peace is granted, because it looked like that the game costs the same in both stores..."

The negoation power of GOG might be good...but Steam is still the market leader. As long as this is so, GOG must offer their customers a compromise with which they can live. Should GOG get an equal market power to steam, when everything COULD change. But this can only tell time to us.

Wasteland 2 Pre-order just got more expensive and if I see it correctly the Russian price is even less now. o____O

edit: Confirmed, it is now 26.09$ instead of 28.89$.

Vow that developer is really greedy increasing price by 10€.

These Kickstarters are causing me so much inner conflict.


Well, it must be working if seeing it at #2 in the Bestsellers list is anything to go by.