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Posted April 19, 2013
Survey Results: See what the future of GOG.com holds!

A few weeks ago we asked you to fill out a survey about some of the possible new areas of gaming that GOG.com might move into in the future. We also promised that we’d share the results with you, and they are below. Before we get to that, though, we did want to let you know what these mean to us:

1. We remain committed to bringing you guys the best games from all of gaming history, on both PC and Mac. This means that while we’re exploring ways to bring you new games, we also are committed to bringing classics back to life as well. This year alone has seen Omikron, System Shock 2, the Leisure Suit Larry series, Strike Commander, and even Daikatana!

2. DLC is a controversial issue, but something that has been in gaming—by another name—since the very early days. You guys seem to understand that it’s not possible for us to sign new games with all of their DLC (before it is even made) bundled in, and it looks like you’re willing to either buy DLC or not as you find it interesting. As part of our continual efforts to improve the user experience on GOG.com, we will be looking at new, better ways to present DLC in our catalog as well.

3. Selling episodic content before the “season” is finished is also something we’re looking forward to bringing you in the future, and you seem to agree.

4. Season passes—for both DLC and for episodic content—clearly have a mixed perception here. Season passes—if we do offer them—are something that we’ll approach with deliberation to make sure that we’re confident that the content that is promised will all be delivered.

5. Finally, we have somewhat conflicting information on the persistent multiplayer features; when discussed in a very abstract fashion (as it was in the first survey), it’s a very clear “no.” When mentioned in a specific game that we’ve shown you, it’s an equally clear “yes.” What we’re going to be sure of, going forward, is that we’re very careful that any game that we bring you guys with persistent multiplayer features will be at least as offline-friendly as Planetary Annihilation is.

One of the defining characteristics of GOG.com is that the games that we sell have no DRM; this isn't going to change, and we will continue to evaluate the games that we bring to you to make sure that they're not only great games, but great games that we think will fit in well with how we do business.

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Thank you for responding to our surveys in such large numbers. GOG.com would be a mere shadow of itself if it wasn't for its incredible, open, friendly, and active community--that is you!
Post edited April 19, 2013 by G-Doc
Posted April 19, 2013
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Adzeth: I feel like GOG has lost a piece of its soul. Remember when GOG used to be special and filled with fluffy kittens? Those days are long past for now GOG has gone into the business of scamming the weak minded with DLC. No strong, independent person would ever buy DLC, as I see it. In other news, only antisocial psychopaths would play video games. I wish they sold less video games so we would have less mass shootings and serial killers. Report DLC for terrorism.
Lmao, you're just awesome Azdeth ^_^

edit: Adzeth*. I must be having a dyslexic week.
Post edited April 19, 2013 by ShaolinsKunk
Posted April 19, 2013
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SPTX: That's the kind of thinking that put gaming in the state it is today.
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Mivas: No, it isn't. When a game is delivered only with DRM, you don't have other choices except never buying. When a game is released with upcoming DLCs, you can always wait until everything is released and sold for a price you find acceptable.
That's (wrongfully) called a gold/goty version. why not only sell those then? It's way more user friendly and stands right by the principles I mentioned earlier.

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SPTX: that's not what is happening today. Today DLC are nothing but a pitiful excuse to release an unfinished games in hope to sells a part of its content separately to get a better and free profit margin but simply relying in the weakness of individuals to refrain themselves to throw money around without a second thought.
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Fuzzyfireball: This is what it looks like when people talk out of their ass.
This has been argued to death in a dozen other threads so I'm not going to bother.
Says the guy who blatantly claimed that nay-sayers had to be disregarded. Sorry, but your decisions impact everyone else, not just you. Intentional or not, your decisions hurt me, and by extension the people like me.
Posted April 19, 2013
I'm very worried about this dlc business. I'd rather this didn't happen; if it's necessary for GoG to exist, fine, but I want nothing to do with that cancer.
Posted April 19, 2013
I personally do not think GOG looses a piece of its soul or becomes an online distributor like any other just because they also sell newer games and DLCs now and maybe even multiplayer games in the future. As long as they keep adding classic games and keep the games DRM-free they are just expanding their catalogue which means they appeal to more and more people. Just don't buy DLCs, multiplayer games or newer games if that is not what you are looking for here. I have most of the older games here that I am interested in already and I can configure DOSBox myself. So, without the newer games in their catalogue, GOG would be less appealing to me.
Posted April 19, 2013
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Adzeth: I feel like GOG has lost a piece of its soul. Remember when GOG used to be special and filled with fluffy kittens? Those days are long past for now GOG has gone into the business of scamming the weak minded with DLC. No strong, independent person would ever buy DLC, as I see it. In other news, only antisocial psychopaths would play video games. I wish they sold less video games so we would have less mass shootings and serial killers. Report DLC for terrorism.
At first I was like: "What is this guy saying! I definitely don't agree with this!"
And then I finished reading and was like: "You clever bastard."

:)
Posted April 19, 2013
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Fuzzyfireball: This is what it looks like when people talk out of their ass.
This has been argued to death in a dozen other threads so I'm not going to bother.
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SPTX: Says the guy who blatantly claimed that nay-sayers had to be disregarded. Sorry, but your decisions impact everyone else, not just you. Intentional or not, your decisions hurt me, and by extension the people like me.
You see it as a cancer, I see it as expanding the catalog and offering more choice. While still remaining largely DRM-free. Give me a break with this "hurting you" crap.
Posted April 19, 2013
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SPTX: I am pretty sure that if that survey was to be remade, the results would be more in favour of "no".
What gives you that impression? This survey was done recently and nothing has really changed since then.
Posted April 19, 2013
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Neonivek: Well no, the rage towards the Omerta DLC, if you read through it as I had, seemed to be more focused on the fact that the DLC was terrible as DLC (overpriced, for a game that isn't "that good", and that did very little).
Only problem Omerta (and its DLCs) have is the price. Halve the price ($19.99 for base game, $2.49 for the DLCs) and the price is much better. The first DLC adds 2-3 hours (assuming you only play it once), thus for 2 bucks it's ok. As for the main game, at $10 or less I will recommend it.

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SirEyeball: You do mention that some of the game features are internet reliant so if you want the full experience you would have to play on the game servers.
Assuming you are talking about Planetary Annihilation, the only features reliant on official servers are the Galaxy Conquest on the official server (though you can have Galaxy Conquest in single player as well) and the automatic matchmaking. Not sure what "full experience" you miss if you play offline or on lan.

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SPTX: You have to remember that nowadays, DLC are more a fraudulent abuse of a state of ignorance or weakness rather than a fair trade with a customer.
I'm just going to leave this here (again).

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SPTX: That's the kind of thinking that put gaming in the state it is today. You may seriously want to up your standards and not drag everyone down with you.
Yeah, I mean look at this cover. Love the sticker on the top right.
Posted April 19, 2013
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BinaryPoet: I personally do not think GOG looses a piece of its soul or becomes an online distributor like any other just because they also sell newer games and DLCs now and maybe even multiplayer games in the future. As long as they keep adding classic games and keep the games DRM-free they are just expanding their catalogue which means they appeal to more and more people. Just don't buy DLCs, multiplayer games or newer games if that is not what you are looking for here.
Problem is, some of us want MP/newer games to show up on GOG.
As far as I am going with DLC, I don't buy any of it unless it's bundled with the full game at an extremely reduced price (30 for the game + DLC at most, what it's worth).
I saw GOG as a way to get games without being impaired by DRM, it works for CDProjeckt red games and some "indies".
It should also, and could, become a place to get games COMPLETE on release.
Posted April 19, 2013
Some examples of how I would like to benefit from GOG offering DLC.

Fallout 3 Game of the Year
Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition
Morrowwind Game of the Year
Oblivion Game of the Year
Mass Effect 2 Ultimate Edition
Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition
Batman Arkham Asylum Game of the Year
Bioshock Ultimate Rapture Edition

I still want to buy the 3 missing Neverwinter Nights premium modules, which included Infinite Dungeons.
Post edited April 19, 2013 by jalister
Posted April 19, 2013
Just a thought, for all of you who oppose DLC.

GOG is already waging war regarding DRM, it's a hard position to keep I'm sure. Certainly, they could stand up in arms agains DLC as well, and that could be epically awesome (I don't like them that much myself). However, don't you guys think that opening another war front is a bad idea? Why not prove that new releases work without DRM, establish that fact clearly for all to see, and only then move on to the next issue?
Posted April 19, 2013
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SPTX: Says the guy who blatantly claimed that nay-sayers had to be disregarded. Sorry, but your decisions impact everyone else, not just you. Intentional or not, your decisions hurt me, and by extension the people like me.
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Fuzzyfireball: You see it as a cancer, I see it as expanding the catalog and offering more choice. While still remaining largely DRM-free. Give me a break with this "hurting you" crap.
Burying your head in the sand doesn't make problems go away. You DO takes decisions that have an impact on other people.

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SPTX: You have to remember that nowadays, DLC are more a fraudulent abuse of a state of ignorance or weakness rather than a fair trade with a customer.
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JMich: I'm just going to leave this here (again).
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SPTX: That's the kind of thinking that put gaming in the state it is today. You may seriously want to up your standards and not drag everyone down with you.
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JMich: Yeah, I mean look at this cover. Love the sticker on the top right.
Yes, scamming people didn't get invented in 2012. It changes everything!
Post edited April 19, 2013 by SPTX
Posted April 19, 2013
I voted yes for allowing DLC. Simply put, I want GOG to be successful and to do that, they need to sell newer games. I also want GOG to be my one-stop-shop for games, and I want access to newer games.
However I only vote yes under the understanding that GOG will always aim to wrap up games into complete editions when no more DLC and expansions are due for release. I doubt I will ever buy a game until I can purchase a complete edition.
Post edited April 19, 2013 by MichaelFurlong
Posted April 19, 2013
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jalister: Some examples of how I would like to benefit from GOG offering DLC.

Fallout 3 Game of the Year
Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition
Morrowwind Game of the Year
Oblivion Game of the Year
Mass Effect 2 Ultimate Edition
Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition
Batman Arkham Asylum Game of the Year
Bioshock Ultimate Rapture Edition

I still want to buy the 3 missing Neverwinter Nights premium modules, which included Infinite Dungeons.
The problem with all of these you just mentioned is that they already have the DLC included in those editions. They could've added them before. Now they can just release Fallout New Vegas and charge separately for DLC, rather than trying to get the Ultimate Edition.
Posted April 19, 2013
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SPTX: Problem is, some of us want MP/newer games to show up on GOG.
What is the problem with this? Nothing is lost with MP / newer games on GOG. We just have more games to choose from. That is a benefit.
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