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Posted January 26, 2013
On a related note, is it customary to host a giveaway every 100 points achieved? I read that in another post.
Posted January 26, 2013
Who are these "selected individuals"? I am not sure I noticed them. Maybe I would agree there are very few selected individuals that can't do anything, without being downrepped (maybe JCD,... hm that's it perhaps), but never I noticed the opposite phenomenom.
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tinyE: On a related note, is it customary to host a giveaway every 100 points achieved? I read that in another post.
Actually it's every 10 points.
Post edited January 26, 2013 by Vitek
Posted January 26, 2013
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Vitek: Who are these "selected individuals"? I am not sure I noticed them. Maybe I would agree there are very few selected individuals that can't do anything, without being downrepped (maybe JCD,... hm that's it perhaps), but never I noticed the opposite phenomenom.
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tinyE: On a related note, is it customary to host a giveaway every 100 points achieved? I read that in another post.
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Vitek: Actually it's every 10 points.
SHIT! Back to the blood bank!
Posted January 26, 2013
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Vitek: Who are these "selected individuals"? I am not sure I noticed them. Maybe I would agree there are very few selected individuals that can't do anything, without being downrepped (maybe JCD,... hm that's it perhaps), but never I noticed the opposite phenomenom.

Actually it's every 10 points.
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tinyE: SHIT! Back to the blood bank!
Don't forget about special occasions and holidays too.

You should probably just move into the blood bank, save on the trip.
Posted January 26, 2013
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Vitek: Who are these "selected individuals"? I am not sure I noticed them. Maybe I would agree there are very few selected individuals that can't do anything, without being downrepped (maybe JCD,... hm that's it perhaps), but never I noticed the opposite phenomenom.
There are certainly plenty of people here who have been or are still being automatically downrepped (the list is much longer than just JCD) just for being who they are, not what they have said, but I don't think anyone has ever been the "victim" of a concerted effort to uprep them for the same reasons. The only time I see large positive votes is when someone actually does or says something in a particular post that is considered good/cool/informative/funny/etc. by a significant number of the community. If it does seem that the same people keep getting rep, it's not because they are more popular than everyone else, it's because they often have something worth saying and they say it well. That's why I have always felt the "-" button is useless except to report spam. At least the "+" allows forumites to draw attention to particular posts they feel the rest of us should check out.
Post edited January 26, 2013 by cogadh
Posted January 26, 2013
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Gonchi: You know what pisses me off? No ever complains about NOT being repped, and that's the real abuse here, it’s not the act of being downrepped, but that of not being repped at all! At least if you're downrepped it shows some people out there care enough about what you're saying to neg you. Really, if any button should be removed it's the + button, because everything posted should be considered good by default, we don't need the + simply to highlight the posts of the popular crowd. Because that’s all it is, a popularity contest, don’t tell me it’s not, I know it is! I see people getting uprepped without giving games away, what the fuck are they saying that I'm not? I mean, what the fuck?! I’m in here everyday posting, does anyone even notice? What do I need to do to get a little rep love too?! Oh fuck it, I don’t need this! Screw all of you, I'm going to neg everyone in the thread and then I'm going to cut myself to feel better about it.
Okay, then I'll complain about not being repped :D Thing is, I really don't post much around here and it's clear that's not a good enough contribution to these forums.
Oh, and there you go, you got an upvote from me =)

Forum politics. Best thing on the net.
Posted January 26, 2013
kromcita: "These constant complaints are fueled by people who feel that their opinions and posts must be seen by everyone."

I don't think that's it. You'll see that certain people almost constantly get "low rated" posts no matter what they're talking about, almost as if it's a game to other people. Perhaps it is, I don't know, but I do know I've seen a lot of low rated posts simply because of who's posting, not what they're saying.
Posted January 26, 2013
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Broken down into the few issues that arose in the course of this thread:
1. It's... INCONSISTENT D: !
You know what ? I'm not autistic. I'm willing to accept that the world is inconsistent. That's one of the most basic facts of life, to be honest.
Furthemore - as my ontology lecturer once said: "Anyone who thinks their views are 100% coherent is incredibly naive". I'm willing to live with this too, as long as things appear quite reasonable on the surface.
2. Down with down-voting !
Yeah, that's a great idea. After all - if people can no longer downvote others, everyone will love everyone else and this place will blossom into universal positivity ^^ !
Well, no. Guess what, genius, people will most likely think the same things but will merely be unable to express them in the gentlest slap-on-the-wrist way we have at out disposal. This is how I imagine a forum full of up-votes only. Magnificent, isn't it ?
3. Let's imagine...
OK, let's say that the forum does away the minus sign. All it takes is a little aggrement among us dissenters to treat the + button as the - button and pretend the + no longer exists (never mind the logistics, just follow the thought experiment along. The conclusions don't necessitate the premises). Soon enough green-marked posts would be the ones stigmatized and people would quickly grow to understand this practice and interpret the forum accordingly.
4. The dumbest thing about the entire suggestion...
...is that it perceives the symptoms as the sickness. People don't downvote others because there is a button there. They do so because THEY SEE IT AS JUST.
Can the community be mistaken and misjudge the rating a post should receive ? Duh. Does non-zero fallibility mean we should get rid of the system entirely ?
Hilariously enough - this forum rarely does treat people unfairly. Most here err on the side of caution.
5. Who gets downvotes
This is somewhat beside the point but I'm going to mention this anyway: how can we tell whether something we are about to post is OK ? Guess what - it's not an algorithm we follow. It's not a set of posted rules. If there's one thing I remember from my ethics lectures, it's that there can never be a finite set of rules an individual is meant to follow (and even if there is, it far exceeds the ability to remember, comprehend, calculate in real-time, etc); any ethically mature individual should know that and still be able to mostly make the right calls when faced with real-life problems.
In other words - use COMMON SENSE. People who are able to figure out the appropriate things to say in RL conversations should not lose this talent once online.
What makes the fact, that a post should be down-voted, a dead-giveaway ? As rule of thumb - the poster sounding like a blowhard or an idiot to use less than profound terms. Both cannot be reasoned with yet should not be simply tolerated (with possible exceptions - see above).
Post edited January 26, 2013 by Vestin
Posted January 26, 2013
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Vestin: Snip
Wasn't that all awesome. You said alot but still.. I usually am drunk and such. I would like many other fucks saints stuff.

Best thing ever was.. Well Mprtal Kombat 1 ^^
Posted January 26, 2013
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CymTyr: ...Part of tolerance is knowing when someone is trolling versus having a laugh....
That's exactly what I do. Only if I really think there is a troll who is overdoing it I click on the minus although in total I think reputation shouldn't really matter. It's just a quick way of answering to posts. Probably I will never know exactly if I am classy (enough) because I don't know what others understand by classy. I think there cannot be such a thing as a pure classy community.

Anyway I guess either some posts that should not be downvoted were downvoted or the other way around, otherwise you wouldn't write it. Because I don't know which cases these are, so I cannot say anything about it.
Post edited January 26, 2013 by Trilarion
Posted January 26, 2013
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Vitek: Who are these "selected individuals"? I am not sure I noticed them. Maybe I would agree there are very few selected individuals that can't do anything, without being downrepped (maybe JCD,... hm that's it perhaps), but never I noticed the opposite phenomenom.
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cogadh: There are certainly plenty of people here who have been or are still being automatically downrepped (the list is much longer than just JCD) just for being who they are, not what they have said, but I don't think anyone has ever been the "victim" of a concerted effort to uprep them for the same reasons. The only time I see large positive votes is when someone actually does or says something in a particular post that is considered good/cool/informative/funny/etc. by a significant number of the community. If it does seem that the same people keep getting rep, it's not because they are more popular than everyone else, it's because they often have something worth saying and they say it well. That's why I have always felt the "-" button is useless except to report spam. At least the "+" allows forumites to draw attention to particular posts they feel the rest of us should check out.
Not really. It's either due to game giveaways, or jokes that are popular with others here. The amount of times i've seen a serious debate with loads of great comments, only to see a random joke get highly rated.
Posted January 26, 2013
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cogadh: There are certainly plenty of people here who have been or are still being automatically downrepped (the list is much longer than just JCD) just for being who they are, not what they have said, but I don't think anyone has ever been the "victim" of a concerted effort to uprep them for the same reasons. The only time I see large positive votes is when someone actually does or says something in a particular post that is considered good/cool/informative/funny/etc. by a significant number of the community. If it does seem that the same people keep getting rep, it's not because they are more popular than everyone else, it's because they often have something worth saying and they say it well. That's why I have always felt the "-" button is useless except to report spam. At least the "+" allows forumites to draw attention to particular posts they feel the rest of us should check out.
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gameon: Not really. It's either due to game giveaways, or jokes that are popular with others here. The amount of times i've seen a serious debate with loads of great comments, only to see a random joke get highly rated.
Game giveaways and jokes are not worth saying or saying well? Giving away stuff for free is a rep + given, but sometimes a joke, even in the midst of serious discussion, is more worthy than the discussion itself. Even when there is only serious discussion, there are plenty of instances where a well-thought out and written post becomes highly rated because it is well thought out and written. However, since this forum has quite a high population of civilized and educated/informed posters, there are a lot of posts deserving of high ratings, but we can't really vote for all of them, so it does have to be something truly spectacular to earn it. Not to mention, most of those who engage in the more "lofty" discussions around here simply don't care about the rating system, they'd rather tell someone they said something worthy than just hit a button.
Posted January 26, 2013
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gameon: Not really. It's either due to game giveaways, or jokes that are popular with others here. The amount of times i've seen a serious debate with loads of great comments, only to see a random joke get highly rated.
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cogadh: Game giveaways and jokes are not worth saying or saying well? Giving away stuff for free is a rep + given, but sometimes a joke, even in the midst of serious discussion, is more worthy than the discussion itself. Even when there is only serious discussion, there are plenty of instances where a well-thought out and written post becomes highly rated because it is well thought out and written. However, since this forum has quite a high population of civilized and educated/informed posters, there are a lot of posts deserving of high ratings, but we can't really vote for all of them, so it does have to be something truly spectacular to earn it. Not to mention, most of those who engage in the more "lofty" discussions around here simply don't care about the rating system, they'd rather tell someone they said something worthy than just hit a button.
Giveaways are very generous, and i applaud the plus repping of them. But with some jokes, they can be such a lack of effort, but because people hate the threads discussion, they make a minimal joke, and then everyone is like +1!!!! + 1 Million for that comment! Lolzoorz. I just think that meaningful posts deserve rep. But that's just how i feel, and as the thread is all about uprepping/downrepping, i just wanted to share my views.
Posted January 26, 2013
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cogadh: Game giveaways and jokes are not worth saying or saying well? Giving away stuff for free is a rep + given, but sometimes a joke, even in the midst of serious discussion, is more worthy than the discussion itself. Even when there is only serious discussion, there are plenty of instances where a well-thought out and written post becomes highly rated because it is well thought out and written. However, since this forum has quite a high population of civilized and educated/informed posters, there are a lot of posts deserving of high ratings, but we can't really vote for all of them, so it does have to be something truly spectacular to earn it. Not to mention, most of those who engage in the more "lofty" discussions around here simply don't care about the rating system, they'd rather tell someone they said something worthy than just hit a button.
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gameon: Giveaways are very generous, and i applaud the plus repping of them. But with some jokes, they can be such a lack of effort, but because people hate the threads discussion, they make a minimal joke, and then everyone is like +1!!!! + 1 Million for that comment! Lolzoorz. I just think that meaningful posts deserve rep. But that's just how i feel, and as the thread is all about uprepping/downrepping, i just wanted to share my views.
I agree with you but you shouldn't have said that, from now on people will know me as one of the not funny guys ... this should have been kept a secret for the next decade.
You just created a legion of angry-not-cool-kids-wannabe_uprepped.
But, again, I agree with you.
Posted January 26, 2013
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cogadh: There are certainly plenty of people here who have been or are still being automatically downrepped (the list is much longer than just JCD) just for being who they are, not what they have said, but I don't think anyone has ever been the "victim" of a concerted effort to uprep them for the same reasons. The only time I see large positive votes is when someone actually does or says something in a particular post that is considered good/cool/informative/funny/etc. by a significant number of the community. If it does seem that the same people keep getting rep, it's not because they are more popular than everyone else, it's because they often have something worth saying and they say it well. That's why I have always felt the "-" button is useless except to report spam. At least the "+" allows forumites to draw attention to particular posts they feel the rest of us should check out.
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gameon: Not really. It's either due to game giveaways, or jokes that are popular with others here. The amount of times i've seen a serious debate with loads of great comments, only to see a random joke get highly rated.
The irony of Vestin's post being highly repped just a few posts above this is making me laugh:)
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