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Posted April 10, 2012
I didn't read all 7 pages, I just want to say that I will not pay any extra money to get the game in a drm-free form. or any other form for that matter.
If you want my money do sell it in my terms or else I am not buying it. I am cool with not playing every game released.
Posted April 10, 2012
I don't buy games with DRM.

I would pay good money for a DRM-free copy of a good game, even if I could have it for free with DRM.

DRM is a hassle. In a bigger perspective, it is also a threat to a free society because it makes people dependent on corporations to access their own media on their own personal computers.

If enough of us stop supporting DRM, it will go away.
Posted April 10, 2012
So far I have had no problems with DRM at all. If I have an equal choice I tend to get a DRM free copy, but I would never pay more for one, nor go out of my way to get one.

Convenience and price are determining factors, not whether it is DRM'd or not.
Posted April 10, 2012
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Gersen: Except that Steam backups are totally useless if Steam is down, you won't be able to play them without cracking them first. (Which for Steam games usually means re-downloading the full game as it's not always easy to find a crack for the exact same version you have)

On the other side GoG backup will work without GoG or even without an Internet connection at all.
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Ashedown: My point on the previous post was in regards to what the user said about steam suddenly shutting down and that is a gigantic waste of money, And I stated that if the service ever decides to shut down, you could still play the games you bought, just not online, and thus why I compared with GoG, if your Game Drive HDD crashes and you loose everything, and GoG goes out of business, it's the same deal as Valve shutting down steam.

It's a gamble you have in both instances.
Are you sure?

On GOG, if I keep my backed up installer then I can install the games without ever using the internet, they do not require anything from GOG, they are DRM free.

On Steam, even if I have a Steam backup or copy the game files from steamapps/common, without an internet connection to Steam not all games will install. You'll have most of the game files, yes, but aren't some downloaded as a means of verification of ownership?
Posted April 10, 2012
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jamyskis: ...
The fact alone that Valve is not going public makes me very, very suspicious.
They probably wait until Facebook offers them some billions.
Posted April 10, 2012
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jamyskis: ...
The fact alone that Valve is not going public makes me very, very suspicious.
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Trilarion: They probably wait until Facebook offers them some billions.
If you combine both services (and rely on the stupidity of your average joe) you would have one of the most valuable data mining companies ever. They could even rival Google with the pinpoint information they can get....
Posted April 10, 2012
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korell: Are you sure?

On GOG, if I keep my backed up installer then I can install the games without ever using the internet, they do not require anything from GOG, they are DRM free.

On Steam, even if I have a Steam backup or copy the game files from steamapps/common, without an internet connection to Steam not all games will install. You'll have most of the game files, yes, but aren't some downloaded as a means of verification of ownership?
Like I said, you need a backup of a backup, because if you loose your files AFTER the site went out of business, you're out of luck, but what people don't seem to understand is that I'm saying that all systems have flaws, bashing Steam because you must be online and there is a tiny possibility of they closing down (face it, it's practically non-existent at this point anyways) makes it no different from any Digital Re-sellers.
Posted April 10, 2012
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Ashedown: Like I said, you need a backup of a backup, because if you loose your files AFTER the site went out of business, you're out of luck,
That's your fault then. The problem is when it doesn't depend on you, like on Steam.

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Ashedown: but what people don't seem to understand is that I'm saying that all systems have flaws, bashing Steam because you must be online and there is a tiny possibility of they closing down (face it, it's practically non-existent at this point anyways) makes it no different from any Digital Re-sellers.
Wrong. Just because they are going well now, doesn't mean they will be that way in a few days/months/years. And that doesn't excuse their dependency on online servers either. So yes, it makes them different from some digital sellers, specially GOG.
Posted April 10, 2012
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korell: Are you sure?

On GOG, if I keep my backed up installer then I can install the games without ever using the internet, they do not require anything from GOG, they are DRM free.

On Steam, even if I have a Steam backup or copy the game files from steamapps/common, without an internet connection to Steam not all games will install. You'll have most of the game files, yes, but aren't some downloaded as a means of verification of ownership?
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Ashedown: Like I said, you need a backup of a backup, because if you loose your files AFTER the site went out of business, you're out of luck, but what people don't seem to understand is that I'm saying that all systems have flaws, bashing Steam because you must be online and there is a tiny possibility of they closing down (face it, it's practically non-existent at this point anyways) makes it no different from any Digital Re-sellers.
No, I'm not arguing that at all (I use Steam and GOG myself and am happy with both). However, whereas on GOG you have a full backup that you can make, on Steam you cannot always do yourself a full backup due to online verification being needed.
Posted April 10, 2012
People seem to forget that Steam has a huge lock-in-advantage, and you also have to factor in that Microsoft will never be allowed to do something that comes in the way of fair trade.

Who knows what will happen in the future, perhaps on line services will take over, but I'm quite sure that Steam will be among the front runners whatever happens.

You also have to think about the public outcry if the majority of pc gamers lose access to their games. If this happens, and the rights owners don't reticify the situation, piracy will become the norm. People will find it ok to pirate the games they already own, and when that ball is rolling it won't stop there.
Posted April 10, 2012
I'll pay a few more bucks if a game available here because I love GOG. Not much more unless the DRM is really intrusive, lets say if a game is $15 here but $3 on Steam I would have to go with Steam. If I made a lot more money I would buy here anyway.
Post edited April 10, 2012 by Ric1987
Posted April 10, 2012
I would gladly part with a little extra cash if a game has zero DRM on it. I have always hated anything that needs a login, in order to play a single player game. I dont mind if it is an online MMO or something of the like, but having to log into a server just to play a single player RPG that I may not even enjoy? No sorry I really dislike that. So in answer to your question, Yes I would pay extra.
Posted April 10, 2012
Yes. If needed going to pay more for DRM-free.
Posted April 10, 2012
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korell: No, I'm not arguing that at all (I use Steam and GOG myself and am happy with both). However, whereas on GOG you have a full backup that you can make, on Steam you cannot always do yourself a full backup due to online verification being needed.
That one I agree, being strictly technical, wasn't arguing with you about DRM or how annoying it is or may become, just that calling it a completely waste of money like it was previously said by ChronoCross687 is a bit harsh and narrow minded.

But yeah, it's flawed.

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Alexrd: That's your fault then. The problem is when it doesn't depend on you, like on Steam.
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Wrong. Just because they are going well now, doesn't mean they will be that way in a few days/months/years. And that doesn't excuse their dependency on online servers either. So yes, it makes them different from some digital sellers, specially GOG.
Mate, you're not getting the point, I'm sorry but I can't get anymore clearer than that.
Post edited April 10, 2012 by Ashedown
Posted April 10, 2012
I will not pay extra to purchase a game without DRM versus the exact same game with.

Why would I pay more to have something removed that adds cost to the end product? DRM technologies are licensed to the publishers, those fees are then passed on to the consumer within final cost of the product. Removing DRM removes the licensing fee, ergo reduced final cost to the consumer.

Paying extra for somthing that no longer exists seems a bit odd to me.
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