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Got to upgrade at some point. Couldn't imagine being one of those sad sods clinging to XP or Win 7 like it's actually worth the effort.
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darthspudius: Got to upgrade at some point. Couldn't imagine being one of those sad sods clinging to XP or Win 7 like it's actually worth the effort.
There are still a few. They are so afraid of change, they hide instead.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: So much for everyone on GOG who was posting BS like "Windows 11 is just a re-skin of Windows 10 and that's it, it's no big deal, nothing at all to worry about here."
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MadalinStroe: There have been multiple Windows 11 investigation videos on youtube, and they have all shown just that: windows 11 is win10 + interface changes. Just because Microsoft have decided to absurdly limit the processors that are whitelisted for their OS, doesn't change that. Also, we have no idea what the future will bring, probably more absurd decisions, but that's Microsoft...
There have been thousands of minute, frame by frame comparisons of cyberpunk versus planned features/releae blurb/peer games, which all show how bad it is. Yet the cult of cyberpunk is the best game ever group still swear it’s all lies and fake news.
I don't think it's fair to fairly judge the system based on a "leak". Also, according to this PCGamer article, there are two minimum standards: hard and soft min requirements. So long as you meet the "soft floor" requirements (2+ CPU cores 1GHz+, 4GB+ RAM, 1.2+ TPM indicating 2011 or later hardware), you can upgrade to Windows 11. < 1% difference in benchmarks for recent high-end CPUs too.

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nightcraw1er.488: There have been thousands of minute, frame by frame comparisons of cyberpunk versus planned features/releae blurb/peer games, which all show how bad it is. Yet the cult of cyberpunk is the best game ever group still swear it’s all lies and fake news.
We know how much you hate Cyberpunk already. No one mentioned it in this thread before your shoehorning. Can we please stop your personal, intrusive campaign and stick to the topic?
Post edited June 27, 2021 by Canuck_Cat
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AB2012: inconsistent
i would say incontinent
They can pull my stable win10 from my cold dead hands.
We'll see if this requirement sticks for the final release, but I've got my doubts.

Just how much of the user base (given I doubt Microsoft even cares about the "consumer" level anymore) even uses the features the TPM would "require"?
Windows 10 being supported for years yet kinda makes this no big deal IMO (i.e. no rush to upgrade) but it is kinda weird where they set the line. Maybe further clarification will make it more of a recommended than a required?
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Darvond: We'll see if this requirement sticks for the final release, but I've got my doubts.

Just how much of the user base (given I doubt Microsoft even cares about the "consumer" level anymore) even uses the features the TPM would "require"?
hmm, probably the ms store will use it nonstop, that's why they made this requirement mandatory
I have no idea what TPM version, if any, I have in my various laptops, so I guess this is the way to find it out at least in Windows:

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-check-tpm-version-windows-11/

Next I need to google how to check it in Linux. EDIT: Maybe this then:

https://itectec.com/unixlinux/linux-how-to-determine-if-computer-has-tpm-trusted-platform-module-available/
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Canuck_Cat: I don't think it's fair to fairly judge the system based on a "leak". Also, according to this PCGamer article, there are two minimum standards: hard and soft min requirements. So long as you meet the "soft floor" requirements (2+ CPU cores 1GHz+, 4GB+ RAM, 1.2+ TPM indicating 2011 or later hardware), you can upgrade to Windows 11. < 1% difference in benchmarks for recent high-end CPUs too.

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nightcraw1er.488: There have been thousands of minute, frame by frame comparisons of cyberpunk versus planned features/releae blurb/peer games, which all show how bad it is. Yet the cult of cyberpunk is the best game ever group still swear it’s all lies and fake news.
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Canuck_Cat: We know how much you hate Cyberpunk already. No one mentioned it in this thread before your shoehorning. Can we please stop your personal, intrusive campaign and stick to the topic?
It was an example, in response to a post x which funnily enough was nothing to do with you - who used examples of many internet YouTube clips showing I point. I countered that by providing another example of the same thing which has loudly been run down. It is perfectly on theme. If it shows up your precious cyberjunk for what it is then that’s your problem.
what is 8th gen though?.

Im still using i5 2500 and it runs all games i have bought. Well OK havent bought cyberpunk....
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Niggles: what is 8th gen though?
The "Generations" regarding Intel CPU's relate to when the Core Architecture started. The first generation were oddly numbered, but from the 2nd generation onwards, the first number of the model number generally relates to the Generation,eg, your i5-2500 is 2nd gen "Sandy Bridge", an i5-6600 is 6th gen "Skylake", i3-8100 is 8th gen "Coffee Lake", etc. Unlike the 90s where there were a lot of x86 instruction extensions added like MMX, SSE, the past decade has been very stable for the instruction set. Hardly any games use AVX (which even your CPU supports) and really there's nothing that actually "requires" a specific generation of new CPU to be used to avoid a crash (ie, no reason why an i5-2500 can't technically run most new games that "require" an i5-6600 / i3-10100, etc, even if they do run them a little slower).
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Niggles: what is 8th gen though?
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AB2012: The "Generations" regarding Intel CPU's relate to when the Core Architecture started. The first generation were oddly numbered, but from the 2nd generation onwards, the first number of the model number generally relates to the Generation,eg, your i5-2500 is 2nd gen "Sandy Bridge", an i5-6600 is 6th gen "Skylake", i3-8100 is 8th gen "Coffee Lake", etc. Unlike the 90s where there were a lot of x86 instruction extensions added like MMX, SSE, the past decade has been very stable for the instruction set. Hardly any games use AVX (which even your CPU supports) and really there's nothing that actually "requires" a specific generation of new CPU to be used to avoid a crash (ie, no reason why an i5-2500 can't technically run most new games that "require" an i5-6600 / i3-10100, etc, even if they do run them a little slower).
Before the "1st generation" (Core i3/i5/i7); there were two more: Core & Core 2. e.g. Yonah and Merom
Generation -1 and 0? ;-P

Before my current i7-6700, I had a Core2Duo E8400 (Quads were relatively expensive back then).
Post edited June 27, 2021 by teceem
So because of this I won't be able to play games as old as Diablo 1 to as late as say Elder Scrolls Oblivion?