Skimming this thread, this hasn't been brought up yet, so I'll bring it up now: GOG have likely already been quietly moving away from hosting adult content games for a while.

The attached image is from a KaguraGames' (English ergoe publisher) staff member on their public Discord (Swaps4). The staff member does not go into specific detail, but they bluntly said GOG aren't interested in hosting their catalogue anymore when asked about any updates on their games appearing on the store.

Another indicator of this is Rance IX (a relatively known IP by the standards of eroge titles) has not been added to GOG's catalogue despite hosting nearly all the other previously released games in the series translated to English (5+6, Sengoku, and Magnum). The publisher (MangaGamer) usually likes holding those games exclusive on their store temporarily, but they were released onto other eroge based digital stores such as JAST on Feb 27, 2025. After a month of not being on GOG, a user on the GOG forums got a response from MG that was posted in the "Games that are *unofficially* confirmed for release on GOG in the future part 3" forum thread on March 30th, 2025 relating to IX coming to the store.

"No ETA at this time. I know this isn't the kind of response you want to hear. We plan to have it on GOG, nothing has been indicated to us that it's been rejected or anything. They seem to be comfortable with other titles in the Rance series so there's no reason that we can see for this one to not make it. It's just in the works."

As of July 21nd, this game still hasn't been released on GOG yet. I know GOG can be slow when it comes to curating games submitted to the store, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they ghosted MG the same way they did with JAST years ago.

Now to be clear, GOG still have been releasing adult content games here and there (I feel pretty safe assuming "Where it all Began" released on July 4th is smut from the store page thumbnail alone), but it's also fair to say it's been a lot more low profile releases and avoid stuff that can be blatantly "anime" for the lack of a better term because it's more likely to include culturally taboo content that can get them in hot water. Along with this, it seems like they've also actively curb tailed those "NSFW" themed sales for a while now as well as actively not mentioning adult games being added to the catalogue on their News Reel on the bottom of the front store page.

Unfortunately, I think GOG already decided to move away from prolific adult games/eroge months ago and the recent event with a company as big as Valve getting its arm twisted by credit card companies is just going to vindicate them to further move away from that market. Especially now that they're trying to court bigger publishers more than ever to put their older games on their catalogue, dealing with credit card companies hounding them about this is probably the last thing they want to think about now. I would hope this doesn't mean they retroactively start removing games already on the store, but time will tell.

On a completely unrelated note, remember the bigger issue here are the credit card companies. Yes, Collective Shout are the current perturbators in this scenario, but these scumfuck companies are more than happy to use any scapegoat they can to enforce their double standards or just do it themselves if something becomes headline worthy enough to act on. Anything that cripples these companies is a net positive.

There is actually close to no adult content here because everything that could make "Only Fans" and alike happy is censored up to the very peak in almost any case.

Just recently i was adding Amairo Chocolate to my "adult games" but without a uncensor patch it is a pretty usual VN, and if patch used... not even hosted on GOG, it got a few rare "sex scenes", thats it; nothing to freak out about. GOG did not even mention that it actually has been censored and the second title is not even on GOG anymore; probably because GOG was turning it down. The actors are not even doing any mean stuff, just the usual "softcore-porn" usually done by a huge mass in the bedroom.

From the adult-games i own, a few are truly uncensored while the majority is censored. From the ones censored there is in many cases a patch available on the site for about 50% of them, the other 50% may have a external patch but not always.

Ultimately, on the site itself... there is close to none, if at all... "shocking material" visible and if any true nudity (which is not even genitals... because this is probably forbidden) any Youtube Video is usually blocked and only accessible with an account.

If someone is "blindly" just picking those adult games... and not trying to somehow uncensor it... they may rarely ever face any shocking material, so i think we are boosting that matter way to far at this point; yet fact is those games may now had ended to become accepted either by GOG and/or a big part of the community as well, along with other parts of this "food chain".

I was gathering a few more of those perhaps soon "forbidden games" if it got any "sufficient quality", which is possible, because i do worry it may leave GOG any time soon and personally i see no reason for shunning a entire "setting" as long as it is not of crap quality, which can happen even with non-adult games... so this is not a adult-only issue but more likely to happen there, unfortunately.

From the pool of perhaps a few hundreds "potentially adult games" perhaps a few dozens are natively (without patching it) uncensored, out of several thousand; so i can not really see it as a big issue at this point but obviously a lot of people was seeing it as a serious issue for whatever reason.

Which ones i own, out of 500, are actually natively uncensored? Guess the fingers on one hand is enough for counting it down, 2 hands if i am feisty... and i did actually try hard getting a few good adult games, so it has even been forced.

Those who do not believe me, my gamelist is visible online. I will try to mark those natively uncensored and the few i had to patch... the list is probably not to big, in order to reveal the issue "as a whole". Guess in 1 hour i got the overhauled list ready.

I feel we got a lot of self-righteous societies on the planet while they actually fail to provide some basic social skills able to make everyone, with every group, go along well together... and at some point we may even slowly face extinction if it is continuing this path. If this is gonna happen... okay... everything is going to end someday... some stuff just way sooner than other stuff.

Okay... not sure i was "catching" any game as it gets hard using such a big list and i am not focused on it. It seems like 10 (so 2x5 fingers is still sufficient) games are natively uncensored + with adult material (fully naked body at least) although i had a high tolerance here because even Cyberpunk, Witcher 3, Kingdom Come 2 and Baldurs Gate 3 is included just because of rather few sex scenes, they are by no means a "porn game", just with some adult material.

From the games with a uncensor patch so far i found 9, not more than the first group. In total about 4% of all PC games got adult material but i was forcing it, and not trying to exclude them.

Maybe there are a few more (for example some Neptunia games or Moreo Chronicle... i dunno...). Not sure so i was leaving them out... i may not even notice it if there are barely any "sex scenes" available or just very occasional nudity, because i am not automatically shocked as soon as i detect it.

Gamelist: https://ibb.co/DHTKS2sh

Your argument is also nonsense.

Nothing has been banned as far as I can tell. Steam has chosen to stop selling some games (under some pressure). No storefront is compelled to sell any games. Any game publishers are free to sell their games how they like.

I don't think Steam is going to stop selling other adult games. I reckon they have identified the most offensive and removed those so that they can draw a line in the sand and sell the others.

I was speaking generally not refering to a certain game. Banning is wrong ... I might add that censoring imo is wrong as well.

If you really believe that this is all that will happen I strongly suggest to do some research on collective shout. They won't stop here and they won't stop pressing those payment companys ... just read their open letter.

"Our research has shown many of these games would breach Australian classification laws. "

Keyword being Australian ... and also - that's just a claim. Yet they did not just request the games to be removed for Australians (again - it's not clear if their claim even is correct, and I doubt it) but for all.

And then we have this quote:
"These games endorsing men’s sexualised abuse and torture of women and girls fly in the face of efforts to address violence against women. We do not see how facilitating payment transactions and deriving financial benefit from these violent and unethical games, is consistent with your corporate values and mission statements."

Violent and unethically ... this first one being almost every second game and the next one being completely arbitrary and subjective.

Keep in mind that Steam needs those payment companys but they don't need Steam. Also keep in mind that every site uses certain payment companys so this does not need to be restricted to Steam alone - future will tell.

Edit: I found one quote that should make it clear that we all could be affected and attached it.

Don't accuse of someone of something, I'm not doing that to you or anyone in this topic.

We can agree to disagree on some points, I can understand the anxiety around it of the things you're describing.

The only thing I want to point out in this is that I'm not transcribing to the collective lunatics as you call it; I'm just concerned of the overall collective western culture always wanting everything to be depicted gratuitously in the overall international media whether its actually acceptable or not.

Thank you for not attacking me, when I came back to this topic I was kind of disheartened.

Also I should have clarified something, I'm not against the Adult Gaming Media, but certain subgenres in my opinion really should not be encouraged as I don't think its really healthy in the long term, but I'm not gonna take it away from them either.

if I had to draw a comparison when the whole Furry Scene came about it was rather innocuous until it became the opposite of that because some individuals within that scene couldn't help themselves and now they have a very large stigma.

The same can happen here if a subgenre of people ends up spoiling the whole basket of apples, and then we'll have more problems we won't able to stop.

I read it. As I said, I reckon Steam have decided to discontinue selling the most egregious games so that they can continue to sell the others.

Makes sense to me.

I'll be fair on one point, if the banks were not acting out of existing country laws then they have overstepped their bounds.

Ultimately I don't like censorship or banning either, but when it comes to something highly offensive to most people is where do you draw the line on that?

What I don't want to see if some few individuals screwing it up for everyone else where it could affect STEAM and GOG in a negative way, that is my biggest concern.

I've been around long enough that I'm tired of one gaming controversy after another, and things always get changed for the worse for everyone. It just doesn't seem to stop no matter if its the community or the corpos doing it.


Also here is my thing, why isn't there a Adult gaming Storefront? Why does it have to be on STEAM or GOG? This would solve most issues rather than using generalized gaming storefronts.

Whoever would craft such a website vendor is likely going to end up being very wealthy.

Sure - everybody is allowed to have their own opinion. I will not force mine on anyone, I can only post arguments that explain why my opinion is the way it is.

The question here is: "Who decides what's acceptable and what not". In certain countries you have laws that are quite extreme in others you don't. Why? Because these other countries won't get harmed? I doubt that playing Witcher (not sure if it was part 1 or 2) in Australia would be more dangerous than playing it in Germany ... yet we had two versions - because of laws. So is the game now unethical? When exactly does this start? Is it unethically to shoot virtual people ... and if not ... will it become unethically if we are seeing in detail how these virtual people die? Well, in Germany it was ... but still also only for some time. Today since science has proven that there is no direct connection between fiction and reality (at least not for people without any mental disability that would prevent them to differentiate) we see things differently. Let me be frank. I've played "No Mercy" from start to finish and I even played all routes - even those which were not actually nice. I still have absolutely no desire to mentally force anyone to have sex with me ... especially not my mother ... but I experienced a certain story of a certain - pretty evil character ... however - most of the time I simply tried to unlock ingame achievements and scenes and were curious to see what the game had to offer ... because that's how I play a GAME. I noticed the bugs, I noticed some clever camera angels, I noticed some interesting gameplay ideas and I noticed some nice and some not so nice renders and animations... but from start to finish it was a game I played. It did not change me a bit - because that's what games are ... a fantasy. There's no "good or bad" but of course there is a lot of good and bad in games that no one should ever want or do in reality. I don't know a single gamer who ever saw this any different .... I never hurt anyone in my life, I never shot anyone in my life, I did not even kill a fly .... but I was a mass murderer in games. That is the whole point. Should there be boundaries in what people can do in REALITY though? Of course there should. that's why we have laws ... that's why laws improve over time. But we are talking about some fiction and no, as long as it does not hurt anyone there should not be any boundaries in my opinion.

As you said, it is an emotional topic but attacks never go anywhere. I prefer to bring up arguments and I am pretty sure that I have enough of them to make my point clear without having to attack people. Full dislaimer: yes, I called "Collective Shout" "Screaming Lunatics" but that's in fact how I see them. They do ignore science and proven facts and go after fiction instead of protecting real life people ... and they are so loud that they provide a far too big echo ....

If you think that playing certain subgenres would be harmful - even though it has been disproven - nobody is forcing you to play them and if you don't like your children to play them that's also within your responsibility - as it is for every parent around the world. These women however are trying to educate us all to only do what THEY think is correct and last time I talked to my mother she was not part of them ... also even she could not educate me anymore since I am far too old :) WHich makes am an adult - mentally healthy so let me play whatever I want in my own four walls. You won't even notice that I played them.

Do they really have that stigma ... well ... in any case - we are here talking about REAL LIFE again. I am only talking about games. I would never ever say that people should rape, have incest or sex with animals (though I don't care if they think dressing up as animals is fun) ... never ever. In games however - do what you like. Those Furriys you described would still be Furries without any Furry game - I am szre about it.

Again ... REAL LIFE versus fiction. There will always be bad people in the world - can't be avoided. You will have bad people who play games and you will have bad people who don't play games ... both can be bad in real life - it has nothing to do with games. Just one important thing: for people who have these urges in real life these games sometimes might even serve as an alternative - so robbing them of this alternative them would bring harm into the real world. I am still pretty sure that most just are enjoying a fantasy just as they would enjoy a movie ... but even for those few who might exist it would be counter productice for the community to remove those games.

Ya about that ''adult only media site'' thing isn't working too good anymore either as even Visa, Mastercard and paypal has been on repeat not allowing payments to be processed for fully legal adult sites that one has to pay to have access for the content .. .. So ya no a adult gaming website won't fair any better and likely not pull in much money if ant more then barely above breaking even either till those three payment methods are not vastly the common and or practically only payment methods accepted by companies online now..

See theirs the problem here the payment processor companies are basically overstepping their reach denying fully legal stuff and basically censoring , and in essence banning stuff as they are practically the only widely accepted ones for most everything at this point online and even to a degree real life stores in some places.. While its also based on appealing to whatever they deem as proper, ethical and moral . But those concepts shift and change as time goes by

Here's what the devs have to say about this description:

"This game isn't a "r**e simulator". Almost no one commenting on this game has actually played it. They're just repeating what they read online. Just ask them if they've played it...

Then consider how much other unverified nonsense they're feeding you in their videos, and ask yourself if they're really worth following... All the controversy was just about the game's description, which was intentionally provocative for marketing purposes."

Ever heard of clickbait and PR?

And it is still a game ... Steam only removed it because they were pressured and not because they believed in the game being dangerous. They did not "decide" a thing, they were basically ordered!

Additionally: As I said before, I actually played this game and no, it is not a rape simulator. You can screw basically everybodyy who is female ... but that's the same in almost every adult game with erotic content. Some of the scenes are not exactly vanilla but you can see worse in other games and far worse if you search the net for two seconds.

Sounds a bit like victim blaming. So they go after certain adult stuff - better remove it so that GOG/Steam can still exist. Well ... that is exactly what they want - and they won't stop there ... I guarantee you this. The problem is not the offensive stuff the problem is the people that get offended far too easy. I explained it before: Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077, Tomb Raider you will find objectification and sexuality if you want to find it ... and as long as you are unable to understand that games don't shape reality there's a reason to try to get them removed.

I do believe that gaming in general has greatly reduced violence across the board and the studies show that time and time again.

But not so convinced if certain adult subgenres has the same effect, but only the United States and a few other countries with a high count of sex crimes (which is getting out of control as of late).

Japan being one exception probably due to their cultural and societal values (though they're not completely void of the problem) where most adult games come from, they don't have such major hangups unlike western countries but I wouldn't say their adult games is always non-offensive.

For example I have studied their PC-98 games (famous or infamous for their eroge) which is all listed on mobygames, some are rather non-offensive, but some are pretty damn offensive. Opinions vary from people over at Japan at those games; there is a good reason why some of those games stayed on the system and never been ported.

So not to get off track, if my country hasn't seen any real reduction to stop potentially bad people or people with their urges of whatever it is then I don't think adult games really plays any in part in it. Usually this type of genre of gaming has been niche, and been niche for decades; rarely has it ever been super popular or if at all.

Though Adult anime being somewhat of a exception occasionally depending on the community awareness and feedback; I remember when Bible Black was popular all those years ago.

Ultimately I'm not a psychologist, and likely missing something here I'm not seeing; just not convinced that mostly Western Countries that get these games actually has any real effect when again the statistics don't seem to reflect the current reality.

in conclusion, I really don't think certain developers should be trying to play with fire with centuries old taboo subjects that is internationally unaccepted and throwing into major vendors, and just about pissing everyone off and causing a stir. There is other vendors I'm sure.

Worse case scenario that will cause STEAM/gog and other vendors of the future to be more regulated, and yeah possibly more censorship against games that had nothing to do with the original problem that started the fire.

I'll be for real, I usually avoid these topics like the plague for years because the people involved that always tends to involve adult game drama tends to get explosive and highly charged and the context, complexity, and nuances go flying out the window. This will probably be my only two cents left on this subject, and probably never again and I just go back to my quiet corner away from the madness.



Sounds a bit like victim blaming. So they go after certain adult stuff - better remove it so that GOG/Steam can still exist. Well ... that is exactly what they want - and they won't stop there ... I guarantee you this. The problem is not the offensive stuff the problem is the people that get offended far too easy. I explained it before: Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077, Tomb Raider you will find objectification and sexuality if you want to find it ... and as long as you are unable to understand that games don't shape reality there's a reason to try to get them removed.


You're not wrong; some people do take things alittle too far; Witcher, Cyberpunk, etc are very tame compared to what is out there.

I have no interest in porn games but these people have already tried to go after games like gta and detroit become human. So how does that poem go?

"First they came for the gooners and I did not speak out because I was not a gooner."

Seriously though, what can be done about this? I want to fight for the gooners!

>www.youtube.com/embed/ONRIxuJmQWw

>Japan is tired of it and slaps VISA with Sanctions. The Fair Trade Commission announced that Visa Worldwide PTE Limited (Singapore), the Asia-Pacific regional headquarters of the international credit card brand VISA, has been subject to antitrust laws regarding the terms of transactions with its partners. This is a huge win for freedom of expression and creative freedom for anime and manga.

power of nippon gods and anime sanctioned VISA at least.