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MaximumBunny: Always posing the negatives. Why not pose the positives for a change? The media will always be negativity-centric.
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PookaMustard: What, Windows 10 and positive news? Those two can't seem to get along very well...the media will always be negativity-centric so much that we'll be hearing about this sweeney all day long without any good reason to hear from him to begin with.
I remember the media is positive about Cortana as a perrsonal assistant for window 10

Then when Microsoft rears its ugly head with all the spying, forced update, stolen internet bandwidth, window apps lock down, window 10 upgrade nagging, introduced spyware for window 7/8 too ......

Any media with 2 brain cells is seeing how bad it is to their credibility if they continue sing praises about window 10.
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Gnostic: Any media with 2 brain cells is seeing how bad it is to their credibility if they continue sing praises about window 10.
Then they won't be getting any clicks from me, as I'm tired of reading the same drivel about Windows 10 24/7. They have no choice but to list the positives of Windows 10 if they want the clicks.
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Wishbone: Well, you obviously can't or don't want to.
Not without a good reason to. You don't form an opinion without hearing all sides unless you're just a fool.
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Niggles: What positive's are there for UWA anyway? I do not see any positive's for them at all.
Stricter developing requirements. So for example, instead of using the CPU's frequency for timing, assuming it will always be between 180 and 240MHz, use a proper timing method that will cause 1 second to always be 1 second. Or assume that more than one user uses the same computer, and they don't want access to each other's saves.
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Niggles: What positive's are there for UWA anyway? I do not see any positive's for them at all.
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MaximumBunny: Well for one, what was the reason for them developing it?
Since you answer with a question, does that mean there is no positives? :P
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JMich: Stricter developing requirements. So for example, instead of using the CPU's frequency for timing, assuming it will always be between 180 and 240MHz, use a proper timing method that will cause 1 second to always be 1 second. Or assume that more than one user uses the same computer, and they don't want access to each other's saves.
You're explaining to the masses the impossible technical thing to comprehend. Stop. You're wasting your breath.

People will always scream the negative loudest.

Even when Windows XP came out they're bitching about its requirement.

10 years later they didn't want to leave XP.

Few years later then it's all about 7 until doomsday.



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Wishbone: Well, you obviously can't or don't want to.
Even when you're told what it is, you will complain. So what's the use?
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zeroxxx: Stop. You're wasting your breath.
Not playing in the current mafia game, so I do need to argue somewhere ;) Spares me the boredom of completing a game for the second time in a week so I can grab screenshots...
UWP is Microsoft's attempt to reunify a development platform.

They've done this before, quite a few times. The same noises where made with Win95 and DirectX, and .net and Win8. Ok Win8 was a disaster, but every things else works and gave us the platform we use now.

A Computing environment tends to be evolutionary, new bits added on over time while old bits linger on in the background.

Every now and then you have to take a step back and lob a meteor at it, start from a fresh slate.

UWP has big issues, but so did Win95 and DirectX and so on.

That said. I hate the term "App", I hate not having direct access to what I've installed onto my computer.
Hopefully this will improve over time.
Microsoft should:

1) FINALLY KILL "Games for Windows Live"
2) Stop pushing windows 10 on our faces (lately i have to manually cancel the update which tries to install sneakily, all by itself)
3) STOP FAQING AROUND! Apps are apps and pc games are pc games! Should they want apps, keep that sh*t on mobiles and smartphones! Raaarghawkgawk!
4) Fek off and DIE! Lately is became bugging as hell!
Post edited March 08, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Niggles: Since you answer with a question, does that mean there is no positives? :P
My understanding of it is that it allows cross-compatibility between Windows devices without the need to recode something for each individual device (desktop/console/mobile/other). That on its own seems like a positive, right?
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Niggles: What positive's are there for UWA anyway? I do not see any positive's for them at all.
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MaximumBunny: Well for one, what was the reason for them developing it?



You don't go into detail therefore your insinuation is as hollow as his at best.
Should we have an idea that they have our best interests at heart, their company track record let alone wider corporate history would beg to differ.


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mobutu: Yes, I'm curios about the "positives" too, cause I can't see any ;)
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MaximumBunny: Can't, or don't want to? ;)
That doesn't answer the question and makes a superfluous veiled claim to the intent of mobutu as to being arbitrarily dismissive. You have no substantiated fact that he hasn't even at least glanced at the source information & as such the onus falls on you to substantiate the counter view.

Either make a point for/against and substantiate it or be ridiculed as a poor example of a MS Astroturfer.

Personally I've read a fair bit of Sweeney's work and he does come across as knowing his subject matter.
(most of the stuff i don't really care about i just have him on my LinkedIn profile & like to know what he's up to, as he's more into the tech world)
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MaceyNeil: Personally I've read a fair bit of Sweeney's work and he does come across as knowing his subject matter.
You're right. Especially the part about needing the Store to install a UWA.
Oh, wait...
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Niggles: Since you answer with a question, does that mean there is no positives? :P
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MaximumBunny: My understanding of it is that it allows cross-compatibility between Windows devices without the need to recode something for each individual device (desktop/console/mobile/other). That on its own seems like a positive, right?
Yeah but the windows mobile segment is like 5% of overall mobile market (and dropping if reports over the last 2 years is anything to go by), and console seems to be something MS is always concentrating on for gaming to detriment of PCs...?
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Niggles: Since you answer with a question, does that mean there is no positives? :P
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MaximumBunny: My understanding of it is that it allows cross-compatibility between Windows devices without the need to recode something for each individual device (desktop/console/mobile/other). That on its own seems like a positive, right?
That depends how you look at it. Generally, it seems like a sure-fire way of making shitloads of useless apps. We're already seeing lots of straight PC "ports" of mobile games, where little to no effort has been expended to adapt the touchscreen interface or GUI size to the PC reality. If devs didn't even have to recompile the damned things, I expect this would only get worse.

The thing is, desktops, consoles, mobiles and tablets are not the same, and an app that is well suited for one is not necessarily well suited for another.

Now imagine one huge unified app store with a bazillion apps which work on any platform, but which were each designed with a specific one in mind, only you don't know which one that is. I'd say that is bad news for customers.
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MaximumBunny: Always posing the negatives. Why not pose the positives for a change? The media will always be negativity-centric.
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neurasthenya: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/tim-sweeney-is-missing-the-point-the-pc-platform-needs-fixing/

There you have it.
And I disagree with everything.
My biggest instant reaction to your posted article is that it does not dismiss the notion that they are implying 'want' in the same way the RIAA implies that every act of piracy equals an equivalent lost sale.
In the original articles context what i am saying is that it seems to propose that every console gamer is a windows gamer that is ticked off by the mentioned disadvantages and that every PC user would prefer not to have said disadvantages if the only thing they had to give up was choice and arguably a more hands on approach.
This is logical fallacy.
a) Consoles are much more easy to share local gaming and are cheaper as two reason that come to mind instantly to explain their uptake (one machine to entertain usually up to 4 people)
b) For probably over a decade now (is it a decade?) people have stuck doggedly to windows xp. Why? Because it's a no frills system that everything's been running on well,
People recognize that they don't need more and they certainly don't want less control over their own OS, they want to get things done.