Ya thats it and it really is annoying.. As while sure it is best to wait for a sale.. the mentality used to be''wait X amount of time for a game to be patched up before buying'' when the ''release now fix things later'' method started to become common .. and then it started to be''wait till on sale at this or that amount off''

Honestly I'd not mind the saying wait for a sale mindset if we didn't have some pc gamers like say in the case of Breath of fire IV release here that one gamer went and tried to go with saying a might aswell say 10 dollar USD game is too expensive and a abusive pricing model ..when what is on offer is often more then worth that price..

That won't happen this time. When GTA V came out in 2013, the PS3 was 8 years old, while the Xbox 360 was 7 years old. There were also no mid gen re-freshes. The PS5 and Xbox Series X/S will be only 5 years old this fall, and there's already a PS5 Pro. The PC version will come out probably around May or June 2027, but that doesn't change the fact that it should be released day 1.
There are legal and illegal ways to buy and play L.A Noire on PC, or just play it without buying it, and you never played it because it's not available here? Holy crap. GTA V is nothing amazing on the other hand. San Andreas still hasn't been topped by any never GTA.

simple.. to sell consoles.
their given some money or probably have stocks in those markets too.

It's interesting how Microsoft who has their own console, releases their first party games on PC day 1, or in the case of games like Gears Tactics or Microsoft Flight Simulator, even months earlier than the Xbox versions, meanwhile Rockstar, a third party video game company wants to sell consoles? Make it make sense. I guess all the console players will suddently invest in a 2000 or 3000 bucks worth of gaming PC magically when GTA VI comes out, right? Not really. They will buy it on console just like they buy every other game on console, even through all of them are on PC, including Sony and Microsoft fiirst party games.

The size of the community is irrelevant; what matters is the number of people who actually buy games, and last I heard console versions typically outsell PC versions by at least 2:1. Because they only care about (and are only aware of) the "big" games and don't play anything else.

Not strange at all; it's basically the same as people who buy high-end smartphones for $1000+ but won't even pay $1 for a game. Plus you can pirate games but you can't pirate a 5080.

To optimize for PC and to double dip.

Most games sell better on PC than on the PS5 and Series X/S. By the way, you need to treat each console as one platform. You can't use the sales of a game that came out for PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Series X/S and combine all of those against the PC. GTA VI on PC will outsell the PS5 version even through it will come out a year later. Just watch.
Only a clown would double dip, and every other company can release their games for PC on day 1.

*shrug* Sounds like nonsense.
Who are these people? Lots of people buy lots of PC games before they are even released, or when they are barely in beta in Early Access... How is being a computer owner making one cheap :D
One can make any excuse up to justify anything. Just blame people being cheap and say "our hands are tied."
That Elder Scrolls IV remake sold a lot very quickly and it wasn't even gathering hype for very long.
GTAVI has been hyped for years already. It would sell a lot day-1 on PC, whether it's a buggy mess or not :D

I have bought L.A. Noire on Steam, and don't support piracy.
It has that annoying extra DRM, so I decided to wait until that's fixed (if ever.)

For several years, Rockstar has shown nothing but utter contempt for the PC gaming community. They STILL have not released the "Expanded and Enhanced" updates to GTA Online for PC gamers and continue to show bias and a preference for console owners for some reason.

Having made literally BILLIONS of dollars from PC gamers from just GTA V alone, the way they treat us is an absolute fucking disgrace.

And then they do the remaster :)

Same, but with younger folks (not talking about the OP necessarily as I don't know them) it may be that they don't feel "in" if they are not playing the same new game as everyone else is.

This occurred to me again when my son bugged me he wants to see the Minecraft movie because apparently everyone else in the school has seen it too. I have lots of interesting movies in my backlist I want to watch, and also a couple of TV series, but I am not in a hurry to see them.

I admit in my childhood I eagerly waited some new games but it was a different time back then, much less games available anyway. Now there is such a high abundance of games so at least for me it is a bit hard to become overly excited of some forthcoming game.

The System Shock remake was close to that and I bought it day 1... and here I am, yet to install and play it.

The envhanced edition was released for PC like a month ago. I never cared about the Online anyway, so I couldn't care less either way.
This is about common sense and being respected as a costumer. Even if I will buy it a year later, I still want the PC version to be released in time. GTA V which wasn't even that good in the first place came out 12 years ago. In 12 years Rockstar released 7 mainline GTA from 2001 to 2013. I'm not in my teens or even in my 20's anymore to just sit back and wait years for a game to finally come out on PC that already has been released on consoles. This entire release model makes no sense these days, and only Rockstar does it.

Um, you're the one who said "the PC community is far bigger than the PS5 and Xbox Series playerbase combined." Make up your mind, and don't move goalposts. I answered your question about "why not PC day 1": because sales on consoles are greater, size of community is not relevant, only sales matter. Deal with it.

No, sorry. For example, in 2024, Ubisoft had 24% of sales on PC, 63% on consoles, the rest being mobile etc. For 2024, Take 2 (which includes Rockstar, you know, the GTA developer) had 8% sales on PC, 41% on console, and 51% on mobile. Even The Witcher 3, which is usually perceived as "a PC game," had most of its sales on PS4 in its launch year. (PC sales later became the majority, however given that these were mostly 90% off sales, that's not nearly as important as the full-price launch-year sales, which almost always account for the large majority of a game's lifetime sales.)

There are exceptions, but typically console sales are the majority. I personally only game on a computer, don't even own a console, and would prefer it if console sales were the minority so that sub-standard PC ports stopped happening, but facts are facts.

when GTA VI release date nears consoles will skyrocket in price because of scalpers and then swiftly abandoned for.. the next big thing..