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JudasIscariot: Is there not a board somewhere on the net where you (general you, not singling out OP)can discuss politics?
I understand the idea behind this, however that's another community. It would be like sending a GoG debating team off to another town, rather than chat in their usual public house.

There is a community here. Quite a good one and a lo t of it is down to the liberal nature of the Forum.

But I fully agree politics is a hot bed.
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catpower1980: mmmmm......

Actually Konrad is the "so-called" community manager here so why doesn't he step up to tell this?
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JudasIscariot: Because this thread appeared at almost midnight and I just so happened to be awake...
I already told you to ask GOG for a salary raise for your extra hours ;)

Anyway, my remark was "in general" as it's normally his job to edict some guidelines when needed and be the person who receives PM's for moderation matters and such. I still see that the "social media manager" job is still vacant so that he's supposedly a "real" community manager and not a twitter/facebook freak. Thta reminds me I still have a PM to write to him....
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toothsaber: http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-melania-trump-knauss-first-lady-erections

Imagine you catch your daughter about to do something stupid like sexting or taking nudes of herself with a smart phone.

She will just say "But daddy, our first lady has nudes. First ladies are role models right...right...?

Plus, Donald claims that he is a "Christian" with a "Christian family". Yeah right.
I would vote for her instead. :D
Slutshaming! You sir, are a slutshamer!

Moreover, why do you punish the poor (figuratively poor, not literally) Donald because her wife is a tramp? I mean, that's her name I believe, Melanie Tramp.
When it comes to Donald itself, I am unsure why people are so afraid of him. I am fairly sure he is all talk and no action. He's just having a big show, he is an entertainer. Sure you can feel angry because he is badmouthing some people, but afraid?

Also, if he really was serious about Mexican wall this, muslim exile that and what else... it isn't like he can decide on all those things by himself, can he? I don't know the US political system fully, but I presume that Congress thing you have there has some leverage as well?

So just grab your popcorn and enjoy the ride. Then again I believe Clinton will win the election anyway, just because there are so many people against Trump, even among the Republicans.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by timppu
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Elmofongo: Politics turns the best of friends into enemies overnight.
It might touch on politics as a topic but it surely wasn't opened as a friendly discussion but more like click bait.

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TStael: See below Judasiscariot. I have no doubt Dethmold was ill written, but at least I care.

And what bothers me maybe more than "Dethmold" is the fact that actual human beings thought that this characterisation was okei. Pimple popping, slave raping and all that.
I disagree. I thought Dethmold was a well written villain. A villain needs to be disgusting, horrible etc.. but also understandable and somewhat symphathetic (one of the reasons I could never get into comics as villains are so bland with unrealistic behavior). Also, you call yourself a Witcher fan yet you wouldn't replay a game you enjoy soley because 1 character bothers you? He must really bother you then..

Also, OP:

What is wrong with sexting? As long as you don't show personal pictures, it shouldn't cause future harm.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Nirth
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JudasIscariot: snip

As for steering conversation, it would be best for divisive topics, such as politics, to be discussed at the right time and the right place.
To start, kudos on the desire for civility in this community - at least if I understand you correctly. If so maybe post in some of the threads I opened on such topics?

Now the criticism. It will be 'abrasive' but I hope constructive.

The problem Judas, is that we do not all agree on what is "the right time and the right place" for anything. Clearly the OP felt it was right, unless someone actually thinks he/she is a troll.

This highlights very well the limitations of the approach GOG takes to moderation. Make no mistake - the forums are yours, as in: you actually own them.

Now please consider what is coming next starts with conditionals, so if the hat does not fit, just ignore it... I offer it to provide a rounded view.

If you want to not receive requests to close threads maybe make an explicit post about what kind of requests you want to receive, about: spam, threats, obscenity... whatever it maybe. Then if someone asks you to close somehing else, warn them. If they persist, take harsher measures. And obviously close those that cross the line, warn such posters blah blah...

If instead you don't want political discussions in the forum, maybe make that an explicit policy, defining clearly what constitutes politics - elections, ideologies... whatever it maybe. Then if someone posts warn them. If they persist, take harsher measures.

If however I am reading you correctly, and you actually don't want vitriol, aggression and personal attacks (a crusade I share, despite being a flawed individual) then likewise maybe make an explicit policy stating what is not permitted and freaking enforce it. If someone crosses it warn them, if they persist take harsher measures. If others abuse the reporting warn them, if they persist, take harsher measures.

What does not work, is to have no rules, have the power to set the rules, and then complain about non existent rules not being followed. It's a bit offputing to me at least...

Still, I am wondering if these posts of yours are your personal opinion or some sort of official statement. Because if they are official, I for one will respect the wish, despite thinking you (collective you) have the power and responsibility to actually make things happen however you want - and so I'd refrain from opening or taking part in political threads (subjective as that is to define since politics, values and identity frequently interact).

But if this is your personal opinion, I respectfully disagree that a mostly unmoderated forum is the wrong place to have any kind of discussion and would rather urge you to set clear rules of civil behavior, be transparent in enforcing them (this was the big mistake in the whole TinyE brouhaha recently) and individualize the issue - even if you dislike that approach.

I trust, but will make explicit, that you see what I am implying in terms of collective judgment / preemption / punishment being wrong. And I make this point based on a short dialogue we once had over closed threads in PM. And make no mistake - it's either collective enforcement, or individual enforcement, or no enforcement. By definition.

As I also hinted higher, the individual approach really should be public and publicized. Pour encourager les autres. It does not work behind the scenes, if anything it tends to blowback.
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Nirth: snip ... A villain needs to be disgusting, horrible etc.. but also understandable and somewhat symphathetic ... snip
Just as a side point, because I like talking about such narrative devices. What you say is correct if the intention is to have mature fiction, which is clearly the case with the Witcher. There are other less realistic approaches though, going as far as comic caricature even.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Brasas
I'm sorry, but you don't link a celeb gossip rag and keep the moral high ground. You could've linked to a porno with the pics, but this is worse. What were you even doing there?
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tinyE: Oh good, another politics thread
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227: But surely we can all agree that giving Trump access to nuke codes would be like giving a Kardashian a lightsaber.
I don't want to see what happens if Trump gets nuke access. I would totally watch what happens if a Kardashian gets a lightsaber, though, especially since it isn't likely to hurt anyone I care about.

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Garrison72: I want him to win for two basic reasons:

-the establishment, both the left and right, are basically in bed with each other to oust this guy. That tells me something.

-I want to see the media crash and burn after trying their damndest to foil him. The media is corrupt and disgusting, and if he wins, we all win.
Sounds about like my only reason to like the idea of him winning: the thought "Wow, two different parties put up candidates SO BAD that THIS guy won".

On an unrelated note, I'm thinking about adding a random name to future presidential election ballots, and the platform would roughly be "Don't like either primary parties candidate? Don't just stay home, let them know by voting for this other guy."
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Shadowstalker16: I'm sorry, but you don't link a celeb gossip rag and keep the moral high ground. You could've linked to a porno with the pics, but this is worse. What were you even doing there?
No you're wrong, he did the right thing. It's important to show these things.

I find pornography reprehensible, but I'm thorough, so when I find of piece of that filth I make sure to study it over and over and over and over and over before deciding who and how to condemn for it's production.

AND THEN, just to be sure, I study it some more.

And some more.

And then all my friends come over and we get get drunk and study it. Over and over and over.
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tinyE: snip
You know Tiny. The more I read you, the more I think you are neither dumb, nor comfortable.

If it was only the first I would probably try harder to actually get you to be less of a jerkish goofball - because you know very well when you are doing it not to be funny, but to be dismissive or to derail something that you dislike.

But as I actually also believe the second, I will refrain from afflicting you. It would be great if you kept the goofball humor without the douchery, but the more important is to wish you find comfort in how you approach life and be at ease. As you know there are many many here - myself included - that enjoy and appreciate you for all or most of how you are. Hope you take joy in that and it helps with the pain.

And I say this publically because if there is one thing we certainly have in common, it is our dedication to our public persona. For which I salute you, as a comrade of sorts. :P
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tinyE: snip
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Brasas: You know Tiny. The more I read you, the more I think you are neither dumb, nor comfortable.

If it was only the first I would probably try harder to actually get you to be less of a jerkish goofball - because you know very well when you are doing it not to be funny, but to be dismissive or to derail something that you dislike.

But as I actually also believe the second, I will refrain from afflicting you. It would be great if you kept the goofball humor without the douchery, but the more important is to wish you find comfort in how you approach life and be at ease. As you know there are many many here - myself included - that enjoy and appreciate you for all or most of how you are. Hope you take joy in that and it helps with the pain.

And I say this publically because if there is one thing we certainly have in common, it is our dedication to our public persona. For which I salute you, as a comrade of sorts. :P
Please don't psychoanalyze me. I'm on enough behavioral medications as is.
I hope Trump wins so Canada can become the "Land of the Flee". I am buying property now to sell to all the Americans fleeing the country if he wins.
I'm going to assume she is a model who posed in the buff. What is wrong with that? A job is a job.
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LiquidOxygen80: It's times like these when I'm glad I'm a Libertarian.
Being a libertarian is like being a donkey in a zoo. People will look at you, laugh at you and then walk away.

Believe me I was one. Libertarian politicians if any will not accomplish anything in America let alone be a president.


As for the OP, Trump's wife pics could have the opposite effect too.

A lot of thirsty for sex American men could vote for Donald just because of his wife.

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timppu: why do you punish the poor Donald because her wife is a tramp? I mean, that's her name I believe, Melanie Tramp.
lol lol


do you know what instrument Donald Trump would play if he wins the presidency ?





The Trumpet
Post edited March 31, 2016 by doctorsinister