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deleted_user:
We keep posting these types of threads and take every effort to bring it up until they get the message. If enough people complain, they will take notice.
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Sachys: ...and then say...

"We are listening to your feedback!"

"We'll get on it - soon!"

"I'll pass that to the web dev team..."

etc etc etc
And as a community we don't let that be good enough. ;)
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Cyraxpt: Have you guys ever visited the CDProjekt Red forums? It's like first class in there [..]
Oooh.. such features!
I guess we're the slums and those are high quarters.. : (
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phaolo: Oooh.. such features!
I guess we're the slums and those are high quarters.. : (
not even that
we are the gutters

and you are all gutter snipes
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snowkatt: like the 39 page we are listening to your feedback thread ?
Exactly, that's why i'm less inclined on buying games here and if i was a douche, i would even ignore the threads asking for help.

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Emob78: Because there's too many whiners and complainers around here. Just trying to do my best to offend and ridicule them. Just doing my part for the betterment of gog-kind.
And i'm the one with too much time on my hands? Er, ok...
Post edited July 26, 2015 by Cyraxpt
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deleted_user:
I agree. It is rather sad, especially since there the owned by the same company so there is no real reason GOG couldn't just take the forum software from the CDPR forums and integrate them here instead of this crappy forum there using now. It does feel like we are second class citizens, so many small changes could be made to improve this site and a decent web developer should be able to do without much issue and yet here we sit, the site largely the same as it was 2 or 3 years ago when I joined. :/

It's bad enough that developer/publishers treat us as second class citizens to Steam, but when GOG does it to there own customers it is really really sad.
Could be legal reason. That would be seen as a subsidizing and might be illegal. Plus,, how do you want to transfer all the existing posts and subforums? How do you want to move the reviews over? How do you want to move the chat logs over?

Next thing: Your accounts and the games linked to it. How do you want to move those over? It is changing every second. Shall they stop business? Who will pay for?

Making changes to a web site is not easy and making changes on a live site can really make more trouble than leaving a slightly ;) broken SW in place.

If they would take everything down for a few days, people would shout as well and nobody could guarantee that everything would be working straight away. I just imagine the outcry , my game xyz has been removed from my account! Or, I can not find my recipe thread anymore (you shall visit it ;) )

For making small changes: Depending on what they use as a SW, that might not be so easy. If i.e. you would need to activate a different module, this could create other problems. Just think of the problems relating to certain browsers.

On the other hand, why second class citizens? Here we have far more freedom as I have seen on a lot of other sides, where certain words and threads are being removed automatically. Here GOG is far more friendly with the user, better to say treating us as a FULL citizen than on other forums.

so only because they don't have the latest shiny SW makes GOG now bad? Did you guy think of what GOG stands for? ;)
In the tech world there is one big saying: Never ever touch a working system ;)
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Goodaltgamer: Next thing: Your accounts and the games linked to it. How do you want to move those over? It is changing every second. Shall they stop business? Who will pay for?
The accounts are already linked for gog and CDProject. You can go there and logg in with your gog account.
I would like a monospaced font tag for the sake of making forum puzzles.

It's my own silly fault we don't have one. When GOG asked what improvements we wanted, I instead listed a bunch of idiotic suggestions (like blink tags).
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deleted_user:
I agree. It is rather sad, especially since there the owned by the same company so there is no real reason GOG couldn't just take the forum software from the CDPR forums and integrate them here instead of this crappy forum there using now. It does feel like we are second class citizens, so many small changes could be made to improve this site and a decent web developer should be able to do without much issue and yet here we sit, the site largely the same as it was 2 or 3 years ago when I joined. :/

It's bad enough that developer/publishers treat us as second class citizens to Steam, but when GOG does it to there own customers it is really really sad.
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Goodaltgamer: Could be legal reason. That would be seen as a subsidizing and might be illegal. Plus,, how do you want to transfer all the existing posts and subforums? How do you want to move the reviews over? How do you want to move the chat logs over?
Legal, probably not. But, I'm guessing it's the related issue of structure. Depending upon how they've done the paperwork it may not be that simple to take assets from the parent for use here. They may have to pay for it anyways, even though it's effectively not costing the parent any more money than they've already spent.
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grimwerk: I would like a monospaced font tag for the sake of making forum puzzles.

It's my own silly fault we don't have one. When GOG asked what improvements we wanted, I instead listed a bunch of idiotic suggestions (like blink tags).
I hope you had the foresight to ask for the marquee tag as well.
Post edited July 26, 2015 by hedwards
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Goodaltgamer: Next thing: Your accounts and the games linked to it. How do you want to move those over? It is changing every second. Shall they stop business? Who will pay for?
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moonshineshadow: The accounts are already linked for gog and CDProject. You can go there and logg in with your gog account.
Yeah you can log in there, but that was not my point ;)

Like your post I quoted, does it exist on CDPR, right now?
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hedwards: Legal, probably not. But, I'm guessing it's the related issue of structure. Depending upon how they've done the paperwork it may not be that simple to take assets from the parent for use here. They may have to pay for it anyways, even though it's effectively not costing the parent any more money than they've already spent.
OK, let's say a financial law problem ;) AFAIK even something like a forum SW is given a value, so GOG would need to pay this, otherwise CDPR might get in trouble, but on the other hand CDPR could not downvalue the SW without getting into trouble....Yep financial laws, the biggest headache in the world ;)
Post edited July 26, 2015 by Goodaltgamer
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Goodaltgamer: [...]

Making changes to a web site is not easy and making changes on a live site can really make more trouble than leaving a slightly ;) broken SW in place.

If they would take everything down for a few days, people would shout as well and nobody could guarantee that everything would be working straight away. I just imagine the outcry , my game xyz has been removed from my account! Or, I can not find my recipe thread anymore (you shall visit it ;) )

For making small changes: Depending on what they use as a SW, that might not be so easy. If i.e. you would need to activate a different module, this could create other problems. Just think of the problems relating to certain browsers.

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In the tech world there is one big saying: Never ever touch a working system ;)
Except that GOG has updated their site a few times since I signed up, and judging by the the results their motto seems to be "replace a somewhat broken SW with another one".
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hedwards: Legal, probably not. But, I'm guessing it's the related issue of structure. Depending upon how they've done the paperwork it may not be that simple to take assets from the parent for use here. They may have to pay for it anyways, even though it's effectively not costing the parent any more money than they've already spent.
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Goodaltgamer: OK, let's say a financial law problem ;) AFAIK even something like a forum SW is given a value, so GOG would need to pay this, otherwise CDPR might get in trouble, but on the other hand CDPR could not downvalue the SW without getting into trouble....Yep financial laws, the biggest headache in the world ;)
Yeah I know, the main disagreement I had was that they could make it happen, it's probably a matter of paperwork.

There's also the NIH problem that they seem to have. There's plenty of free and inexpensive forum software out there that wouldn't suffer from all the BS.

I was on my college's website for the first time in years and their forum software gives you a warning if the post you're responding to is old. That's something that this site really could use. Although, it should probably warn about the age of the thread or something similar.
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HypersomniacLive: Except that GOG has updated their site a few times since I signed up, and judging by the the results their motto seems to be "replace a somewhat broken SW with another one".
I don't know the code, hence I can only say: Is GOG really treating us as second class citizens? Only because we work with an older SW, which is slightly broken?

By the way, for all those complaining about second class, which OS are you using? ;)
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Goodaltgamer: Snip
If that is the case then why not come here and actually explain what and what not can be done here? Part of the problem is that there isn't any communication besides the usual "we're listening and we care", that's actually offensive if we think about it, it's just a way to make us quiet by giving false promises.
On the other hand, why second class citizens? Here we have far more freedom as I have seen on a lot of other sides, where certain words and threads are being removed automatically. Here GOG is far more friendly with the user, better to say treating us as a FULL citizen than on other forums.
Because people abuse that freedom? I've seen people leaving the forum or barely showing up on the forum because they're being harassed by someone. Did you know that it's possible to create an account without a real email? Gog doesn't even verifies if the email does exist, not that it matters since it's simple and free to make email accounts.

The system isn't perfect, as i said, gog is allowing the community to moderate their forums (doing their work) and it can be abused (as it was proved).
I don't know, people are afraid of someone censuring their post and yet we have people grouping up and deleting post they don't agree with, i don't see how's that any better...
so only because they don't have the latest shiny SW makes GOG now bad? Did you guy think of what GOG stands for? ;)
In the tech world there is one big saying: Never ever touch a working system ;)
Because the system isn't anywhere near perfect and i wouldn't called it "working" when you get errors, missing notifications, problems purchasing games (has been happening lately), etc.
I'm not saying that you're wrong, galaxy has proved that you got a point and i'm also not aware of how web development (or whatever is called) works but some of my points are corrected by Barefoot essentials, so why can't gog integrate that system on their forum?
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moonshineshadow: The accounts are already linked for gog and CDProject. You can go there and logg in with your gog account.
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Goodaltgamer: Yeah you can log in there, but that was not my point ;)

Like your post I quoted, does it exist on CDPR, right now?
Now I am completely confused. Sure my post does not exist there. But I also did not get your point from the beginning. You make it sound like the forums would be merged, with all that moving etc. But I think the idea is more to implement another forum software here. And I also don't get why you were talking about the games linked to our account. That has nothing to do with the forum software. Which can be seen quite easily by all the times the forum is only giving an error page but the library works fine.
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hedwards: Yeah I know, the main disagreement I had was that they could make it happen, it's probably a matter of paperwork.

There's also the NIH problem that they seem to have. There's plenty of free and inexpensive forum software out there that wouldn't suffer from all the BS.

I was on my college's website for the first time in years and their forum software gives you a warning if the post you're responding to is old. That's something that this site really could use. Although, it should probably warn about the age of the thread or something similar.
I admit I could have phrased it better ;)

Again: If you would be just talking about the forum SW, you might be right, but what about your library? That is the same here. And I don't know any free or inexpensive SW which would manage this at the same time.

Narcotizing threads which shall RIP, yeah I agree ;) But again on the other hand, I could think of reason to allow it, especially if somebody did use the search function and found an existing thread with the same problem, why not?
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moonshineshadow: Now I am completely confused. Sure my post does not exist there. But I also did not get your point from the beginning. You make it sound like the forums would be merged, with all that moving etc. But I think the idea is more to implement another forum software here. And I also don't get why you were talking about the games linked to our account. That has nothing to do with the forum software. Which can be seen quite easily by all the times the forum is only giving an error page but the library works fine.
No, not what I posted:

Plus,, how do you want to transfer all the existing posts and subforums? How do you want to move the reviews over? How do you want to move the chat logs over?

Next thing: Your accounts and the games linked to it. How do you want to move those over? It is changing every second. Shall they stop business? Who will pay for?

That was what I was talking about

hmmm...library working fine: Might just have to do how much resources you allocate to certain processes and for sure you will allocate most of CPU/bandwidth to the account part and not the spamming...ahem, meant to say forums ;)
Post edited July 26, 2015 by Goodaltgamer