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xa_chan: In Japan, almost every home, every convenience store and every company has at least one fax machine. And they are used very often. In fact, it's only recently that they are turining towards e-mails and other electronic means of communication, but until now, yes, faxes are very common, in Japan.
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Darvond: The question of why, remains.
Cannot be hacked?
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Gnostic: Cannot be hacked?
Faxes, being modem based would probably be hilariously easy to hack.
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Gnostic: Cannot be hacked?
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Darvond: Faxes, being modem based would probably be hilariously easy to hack.
I thought printed paper cannot be hack / sabotage like the E-mail does?

Once printed it cannot be changed and record mess up or stolen easily.
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Gnostic: Cannot be hacked?
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Darvond: Faxes, being modem based would probably be hilariously easy to hack.
Actually, with traditional fax machines (those that actually print the received faxes rather than saving them as digital files), there is a traditional denial of service attack; just send black pages to the fax machine. This will waste the machine's paper and ink, denying legitimate use of the machine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_fax
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Darvond:
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Emachine9643: Tradition......?
Certainly. Japan is a country of habits, and habits are hard to change.

Look at France, even when Internet started to be big, they continued the Minitel service (french version of internet, that would have been successful if only they had followed up on their idea...)
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Emachine9643: Tradition......?
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xa_chan: Certainly. Japan is a country of habits, and habits are hard to change.
Which makes me wonder a bit, cause Japan is also a land where new technologies are spread really fast among the people.
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Gnostic: I thought printed paper cannot be hack / sabotage like the E-mail does?

Once printed it cannot be changed and record mess up or stolen easily.
You'd find it easy to send kilobytes of garbage data to a fax.
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dtgreene: Actually, with traditional fax machines (those that actually print the received faxes rather than saving them as digital files), there is a traditional denial of service attack; just send black pages to the fax machine. This will waste the machine's paper and ink, denying legitimate use of the machine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_fax
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Darvond: You'd find it easy to send kilobytes of garbage data to a fax.
But the previous data won't be lost by the delete button.

And people cannot steal information unless they break in the safe house physically.

Of course it fax has its flaws, I am thinking what is the possible advantage over internet e-mail.
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Darvond: Is it okay if I question how phone cards haven't gone the way of an extinct animal? Why are they sticking around like fax machines?
They're all over the place in China. I see them in the US all the time as well. You see them anywhere there's limited access to credit or people that don't want to use credit.
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xa_chan: Certainly. Japan is a country of habits, and habits are hard to change.
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Maxvorstadt: Which makes me wonder a bit, cause Japan is also a land where new technologies are spread really fast among the people.
Yeah, Japan is a land full of paradoxes, which might be one of the reasons it is so attractive to many westerners.
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Darvond: The question of why, remains.
If the adoption rate was higher in the heyday of the fax machine, then it'll take longer to go away.
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Darvond: The question of why, remains.
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SirPrimalform: If the adoption rate was higher in the heyday of the fax machine, then it'll take longer to go away.
In corporate offices they were popular, but I don't think I knew anybody who owned a fax machine. And that includes my dad's friend who had a net connection since betore the world wide web.

Obviously, most of us wound up with a fax modem eventually, but I don't recall any of my friends using it to fax anything.

These days, I think they've fallen out of fashion rather quickly just because once you send a fax, they're a PITA to work with. You can read them, but back up is a pain and you have to spend money filing and storing them.
so i guess no one know any legit site for what i want :D
At least in Germany fax machines are still relatively common for one particular reason: If you fax an underwritten document, with a qualified sending report which shows the first page of what you faxed, that fax is a legal document, with the same, or even better, standing in court than a real letter.
It has two quite big advantages over real letters: it's fast, and that qualified sending report counts as proof that the recipient actually got the fax, where with a letter he could just claim not having got it. Registered mail, which would also prove that the recipient got the letter, is quite expensive.

With the massive rise of IP (VoIP) based phone lines here in Germany, actually getting a fax machine to work get harder and harder though.
Post edited September 16, 2015 by Ranayna
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MadeinChina: so i guess no one know any legit site for what i want :D
Oh dear, your thread got hijacked, didn't it?
Have you read this thread? It has a solution for greeks to buy stuff here. Nothing to do with phone credit though. I hope it helps.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by Tannath