This is 'in Galaxy' (and most likely 'GOG Galaxy installers' - dunno never used it) , what I want is access to *EASY* and *EASY maintainable* downloads for ALL my GOG purchases (as in OFF-Line stand alone installers for games and goodies) . I am NOT interested in anything inconvenient or anything offering me less functionality than the GOG.com Downloader does/did and I have honestly no use for in-GOG Galaxy installers , I use GOG Galaxy in daily life but I still want my separate GOG DRM-FREE game downloads also because that is why I buy from GOG ALSO !!!

"Well you see, in the software world, old is bad. Downloader couldn't stay. It was outdated with the release of Galaxy 1 and you're lucky they kept it that long. ...What, they're taking away my Galaxy 1 and forcing me to Galaxy 2? This is an outrage!".

Okay, I can agree to that ... (still they should have worded it like that ... as in "in the forseeeable future" or something).
1) Be aware that I am one of those who love the downloader before you hit me ;)
2) You can do just that with Galaxy. Download non Galaxy backup installers. However if you already have downloaded the installer before it will do so again (downloader was recognizing these cases and not download the same files again), Galaxy also won't show you which games have been updated if they aren't installed (not a big deal since atm GOG completely scrapped update flags even on the web site) and last but not least you will always get an empty "temp" folder in your download directory you'll have to delete before archiving it. Other than that it is basically the same.... oh, I forgot one thing that is different. DLC Installers will be downloaded in the same directory while the downloader created a single directory for each DLC and the base game.

Maybe I am too optimistic, but IMO the fact that in very little time they removed the downloader, Galaxy 1, and the update notification from the site, might mean that they are about to do, finally, a big revamp of the site and their backend infrastructure and why not even maybe of the forum.

(On the other side it might also just be that when they removed the downloader support they didn't thought it would also break the updates notifications... but let's be positive...)

Yes, please let's be!

I know , me too , love the GOG.com Downloader , I just use GOG Galaxy for every day convenience as I have used the GOG.com Downloader for my downloads....

Well , what I originally envisioned when I suggested a 'client' for GOG (it's listed on 'Wishes') were something different from what The French Monk came up with...
I wanted to give people convenience and ease in daily life so I imagined an apparatus like the GOG.com Downloader that would support more download locations when it came to updating and installing and so on , but that it would also be able to act as an install manger , installing from the downloaded files and also be able to download updates to local file repository.....
All this because I realized that many users were not tech savvy enough to have to deal with all the downloading and installing and what not without an apparatus helping them...

But of course then The French Monk (Guillaume Rambourg) had different ideas that were more about copying Steams social networking tools and popularity....

P.S.
Since the real object of the discussion for me is about easy downloading of all my purchases then GOG Galaxy is useless ...
I use my browsers library view that lets me see stuff chronologically and then I once in a while start downloading my new purchases from where I stopped last. The GOG.com Downloader were/is a very good tool for that as it would offer good features and high stability and I do not like what they made out of GOG Galaxy in that department.
However as I have suggested elsewhere then GOG can just offer me a NON-Galaxy related download link for each game purchase with ALL OFF-line install files , ALL Goodies and ALL updates in ONE Zip file then I will be happy and they can retire the GOG.com Downloader as they please - after all it's only a convenient tool and if they make it all even easier and even more convenient then who am I to complain over that , if they did that ;-)

Things can change, and a post from a blue isn't legally binding & shouldn't be taken as 100% "gospel" for all time.

(Though of course i'd be ok with them bringing it back, however unlikely that is)

Yes, things can change but nobody said anything about contracts or something that's legally binding. Those people like FlatLux simply feel lied to and disappointed in GOG. Isn't that enough? He trusted in the words of GOG and now he feels betrayed. Maybe it all was meant the way Gersen interpreted and explained but it does not change the fact that their wording was not chosen really good back then when they kind of assured us that the future will be safe. It's not that anybody is entitled or even has a legal binding contract for the GOG downloader - it's just that people feel disappointed in GOG in this case (not completely) - and you should let them allow to feel disappointed. Everybody has a right to express their feelings, don't you think?

I wasn't trying to discount their stances or say whether it's enough or not(not my call to make).

I was merely stating that some seem to keep pointing at that one post as a sort of "gotcha"....seemingly that because one blue said it then GOG MUST have to follow it, as if it were legally binding.

They do have that right, and I am letting them do so(and not trying to stop it).

Aside: If I may ask, why do you(and others) seemingly equate one criticizing others as trying to stop them or keep them from stating their beliefs? I ask as I keep noticing that over and over in this thread, when it's not what is going on(I and other with similar stances are mostly just stating our own stances on GOG's action and the stances of others, not trying to stop anyone from doing the same).

Then you purely misinterpreted what FlatLux said. There's always a thin line when interpreting words but he JUST said that they promised to not break it intentionally and still they did. The "gotcha" moment is just in your head.

I tried to explain this to you already. Most people here are simply trying to make GOG see that they are disappointed. THEY have something to win if GOG should ever listen to them and THEY have something to win if GOG, because of this, would modify Galaxy in a way they would accept as Downloader replacement as well. YOU however have NOTHING to win by telling them to move on or by telling them that GOG is not obligated to do anything or by telling them that GOG is making just business decisions. I am sure most people here already know this so you pointing this out makes it seem as if you want to make them stop (even though you constantly state this is not the case which I do believe, but it feels different.) For you it might just be an interesting conversation but for those who are complaining it is more than just that. Once again: they have a goal (no matter how likely it is that they will achieve it) and you just have fun in an interesting discussion. With you basically taking GOG's side they now have to "fight" with you instead of GOG who prefer the silent treatment. You are not GOG and you have nothing to do with GOG - so you acting like you were and doing their work in defending their actions will always make you the opponent - intended or not.

Maybe it is easier for you to understand this if you would imagine how you would feel if I'd constantly tell you how the forced replacement of Galaxy 1 is a completely logical idea as well? I won't do that because I - in opposite of you - REALLY want to live and let live. So if you'd feel better with Gaalxy 1 not replaced, who am I to tell you that it is just a business decision? No matter the reason, the experience for you is the same: you are forced to use a different client which you dislike and which is missing some options (for now) the other client had. So I simply keep my fingers crossed that GOG won't force Galaxy 2 in the end so that you and many others are happy. For me it will be the same either way so no need to explain to people why GOG might have done this - it won't change things or make those people feel any better.

Who are you talking about with the word "they"? The blue who posted that one single post?

One staffer said it as one single post.....now if staff said it multiple times and maybe made it "more official" i'd see a point in pointing to it as some are, but staff & the company haven't and didn't do such(afaik)....as such, I don't put as much stock in it.

And even if it was gog's position.....things can change over time....even stances and promises.

They already did, though.....many times over, and for a few weeks....I think GOG knows that people are upset.

(TBH I think it is more about venting more than letting GOG know at this point...which imo is fine for people to do)

As I said a few times, I am not trying to make anyone stop, or to blindly defend GOG.

That said, people are free to ignore my posts and keep posting to GOG on this issue(though imo it still doesn't change the fact that GOG would likely continue to ignore all those against GOG's prior decision no matter what I did or didn't do re: these threads)

Just because you don't want to criticize my stances on that issue doesn't mean I cannot or should not do so on this issue....and since you asked: if you did such i'd be totally fine with it, as I am ok with people voicing opinions critical of my own** as long as they are somewhat civil and don't resort to things like outright insults/etc.

(**=That is not to say or infer you are not okay with such by me saying that)

Forgot this bit of my reply to this bit of your post: Yes, and that should include me or people with similar stances as mine, as long as we express them civilly.

If a few users can complain/vent about & discuss the flaws in GOG's decisions then I and others should be able to do so as well....it is(in all seriousness) the fair thing.

And look, five years later GOG Galaxy, with all its different beta and stable versions it's gone through, still suffers from the 2nd point mrkgnao made back then. And yet, people keep arguing that it's an adequate replacement of the GOG Downloader...