Thanks, will give that a try.

So the links ares still fuctional? Interesting.

But who do you think makes those replies/tells the employees what to say(or sets guidelines for such)? The owners/higher ups.

And who replies(usually)? The low level employees, not the big wigs.

So essentially it seems you are asking for execs/the company leadership to reply(likely not going to happen for such issues), or for answers from the low level staff....which they either don't have or cannot give(else risk their job possibly).

(Of course I could be wrong.....and if I am feel free to to let me know)

Read above bit I just wrote: GOG doesn't reply....the low level staffers do. Do you really expect the owners/top level execs to comment on such things?

Most companies have their "peons"(correct term) do that sort of thing, for various reasons(legal, laziness, etc).

I meant those who praise GOG a good amount when they get something from GOG, and then are overly critical of GOG over other "minor" issues.

Maybe the word I used is wrong(it happens sometimes).....maybe "(those with)fickle loyalties" works better....as in some are seemingly only loyal to GOG when they get something from GOG, and when GOG takes something away some(very few...not all) seem to turn on GOG at the drop of a hat.
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THIS.....they cannot ignore it as much(and some might join in with words/a stance of support) if one does such in areas that are more public, or if one sends messages through official channels.

It worked. It was easier to DL with the downloader. I don't want to use galaxy. So, purchases of large games is out now for people who don't want to use galaxy?

There are other(albeit smaller) DRM free stores now.

You and others also run the risk of some taking what you say as "gospel truth" and running with it/reacting as if it's truth & then spreading it around.

Also yes, I think they are about the same(we can agree to disagree, though).

One cannot rule it out, but there are much more effective ways to express such, get the message out(and shared/grow a crowd of support/etc), etc than forum posts(some of which Tfishell mentioned in the bit I just replied to above). Basically those methods should be used first and foremost, as they have a better chance of accomplishing what one wants to see happen.

So essentially you're saying the issue is important to you, but NOT enough to try a bit harder to affect said change?

(Also flipping it around: imo it's the responsibility of those who want changes to try their best to make them happen)

Read above.....the comments there(social media/other sites) are more public......thus likely to get more support and be harder to sweep under the rug, as it were.

(Also it's less that that's the "only" thing GOG listens to and MORE that it's a better method to affect said changes and get GOG to listen)

Posting here to try and change things(in some cases) seems to me like a drunk person** complaining about things they dislike about society in a bar vs actually trying to go out and affect change by protesting/writing politicians/starting petitions/etc......i.e. methods that are more likely to work.

(**=The above is not me saying people who do such here are drunks/etc, in case anyone thinks that by accident)
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One can DL in one's browser, but that might not work well for those with spotty internet/data caps(also more clicks to do to get them).

That said, there are some options I collected(from other users) in post 130, and some have suggested one can use browser extensions that DL files from any website to try and DL from GOG.

Hence why I specifically stated the one store of "big DRM-free games in existence"!! I swear, sometimes you are arguing just to argue :) Those other stores don't have Dishonored, etc. GOG is unique in that it provides DRM-free releases of big games (as well as indies, but that's not the primary attraction for me).


Perhaps "responsibility" isn't the right word. Let's reframe it as saying it behooves GOG to analyze the opinions of their customer base, since by accurately serving their customers, they increase sales and build more goodwill (which can result in future sales, recommending the site to others, etc).

I don't care about making it easier for GOG to find my opinion, yes, even if it is lesser-heard that way. It is on GOG to properly analyze their customer base, not on me to help them make things easier for them. And that especially goes now when they removed a tool that made things easier for me.

We have fundamentally different ideas on what approaches "count" and which are likely to be effective. I'll leave it at that :)

I tried to DL Titan Quest for several days using the browser. Then a kind soul here reminded me of GD. Which worked first time. I can't even DL from my library with the browser, let alone new games. Why should I make any more purchases when I can't get the game to use? Galaxy is not an option.

One more obstacle put in my path by GOG.

Hiding its functionality behind myriad menus was bad enough.

If we wish to abstain from Galaxy we now have to use the browser system which is a huge inconvenience.

For example, I have just purchased XCOM2 and all dlcs (gog should be commended for this release)

Now I have to click on each separate link one at a time to download the games.

In Xcom2 base release there are 9 links, this does not include all the other links for the dlcs

More direct inconvenience directed at myself as I do not wish to use Galaxy.

GOG, you had better wake up before I decide it is time to say Goodbye to GOG.

Not necessarily. You can use your web browser with a standard download manager add-on, entirely independent of GOG's proprietary APIs, as explained here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post70
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post98

Moreover, if you install Adalia Fundamentals, you can continue using GOG Downloader, at least for now, because GOG didn't actually disable it, they just hid the links, and Adalia Fundamentals unhides them.

Thank you for replying mrkgnao.

I respect your opinionsand Adalia Fundamentals, even though I have argued with him before.

I shall look into these options and implement them if they help me.

Can I just say though that without yours and others insight this is still a hurdle being presented to a user by GOG. If it were not for people like you and others to help where GOG fail, I would consider abandoning GOG.

Thank you and I will hang on for now. I hope GOG takes some note.

My bad/mistake.

Nah, that'd be other people's job/hobby(like some with the conspiracy level stuff about GOG as of late, if I may be blunt/open ;)).

(Well MAYBE I COULD get into a good debate about picard vs kirk :D)

Fair enough....though as I said, they(sadly) likely will only lose a small handful of people and those will likely be replaced soon enough(like with any other liked site/thing or fandom).

Then you seem to be essentially saying you don't want change(or want to work for it) and just want to complain about how things are....this is how you SEEM to be presenting yourself, atm, if only in part.

(Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake/etc, though)

These things happen(yeah that will likely come off as me being uncaring, but it is just me stating the truth)....when such happens it is often best to either fight for change(in an "arena" that will make such change likely to take place) or let things go and move on.

If you want to continue thinking complaining on the forum equivalent of a dingy bar for change to happen works(more than it actually/usually does, I mean), then fine by me.....we can agree to disagree.

(Note: Such methods work in rare cases where one can get a large enough following to join in....but that is not very likely to happen here with this case....which is why I suggested other methods to affect said change in such cases)
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Question: Are you sure the browser DLs weren't just acting up that day/for that game/etc? Or that it isn't due to a bad/spotty connection?

If it's ALL(big) games at all times & not due to the above, then what browser are you using? Maybe you are just using a browser GOG's wonky site doesn't like.

(I've used chromium for awhile now with almost no issue, and sometimes MS edge...dunno about others, though)

What's your deal? You feel the need to argue with everyone? I said I tried to DL titan quest over SEVERAL DAYS. What's your problem?

You mean the issue where offline installers included Galaxy bs? I thought that they removed it again after public outcry.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy

Anyway, the GOG Downloader stuff should have been classic by default...but I also didn't check the new installs, so no clue.

I agree completely. I have long ago been disillusioned by GOG's practices and have greatly reduced my spending here. Not reached zero yet, but getting there soon™...

There's no problem(I mean in regards to you)....I just tried to offer advice in good faith.

(Do you mean the other bit in that reply above the bit to you? That was to another user[we often get a bit "energetic" on our discussions])

(Also a BIG head's up: According to another post I read in the other thread, one can still DL games[supposedly] via GOG DLer if they DL/use Adalia Fundementals[a user made script for GOG])