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General discussionWait, Retail Ori & The Blind Forest is NOT DRM Free?(47 posts)(47 posts)
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Posted June 21, 2016
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rtcvb32: Which is confusing since it appears to be a standard GoG installer...
The first release of The Witcher 3 was missing the executable, which one would get from the internet as a patch on release date. So even if you had access to the retail box weeks (or months) in advance, you still wouldn't be able to fully install it without connecting to the internet.
Seeing how the copyright on Grargar's image is 2015, I'd say this is one of the first release boxes.
Posted June 21, 2016
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HunchBluntley: Damn, I though there was a section on each game's Steam store page mentioning what kind of DRM it has? Or does that only appear if the game has DRM measures, or maybe it even varies from game to game if it show such info? I was hoping it'd have a section like I've seen in other shops where it says "DRM: NONE", or "DRM: U-PLAY and STARFORCE ", or whatever. :\
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Grargar: Steam does have DRM warnings, but never for their own DRM. :P
They also don't indicate whether a game can be played without the Steam client; this is all unofficial (or quasi-official with some developers) stuff.
They do indicate (not consistently) what third-party DRM is a game using like GFWL, Kalypso Launcher, Rockstar Social Club, SecuROM, Uplay, etc.
Steam has DRM warnings by default now?
I've used Enhanced Steam for ages as that puts a clear warning right above the buy button.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by omega64
Posted June 21, 2016
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Smannesman: Well there is a Nordic rep that occasionally posts in their release topics.
Also it's GOG, not gOg I think.
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amok: or maybe GoG? .... or gog?.... nobody knows.
goG? gOG? GOg? Gog?
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Maighstir
Posted June 21, 2016
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rtcvb32: Which is confusing since it appears to be a standard GoG installer...
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JMich: The first release of The Witcher 3 was missing the executable, which one would get from the internet as a patch on release date. So even if you had access to the retail box weeks (or months) in advance, you still wouldn't be able to fully install it without connecting to the internet.
Seeing how the copyright on Grargar's image is 2015, I'd say this is one of the first release boxes.
Well that certainly explains some things. I actually have a similar box right in my hands, which explains why it requires internet access to install it (was gifted the box, but after the code was used, so...). The differences seem to be who made the box (Mexico vs Europe) and has a mature rather than 18 rating... UPC code is different, but that's to be expected.
Posted June 21, 2016
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omega64: Steam has DRM warnings by default now?
I've used Enhanced Steam for ages as that puts a clear warning right above the buy button.
Like I said, not consistently. For instance, Dark Void has SecuROM and it's indicated below its features. Alone in the Dark (2008) also has SecuROM, but there is no such indication on its storepage.
Posted June 21, 2016
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omega64: Steam has DRM warnings by default now?
I've used Enhanced Steam for ages as that puts a clear warning right above the buy button.
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Grargar: Like I said, not consistently. For instance, Dark Void has SecuROM and it's indicated below its features. Alone in the Dark (2008) also has SecuROM, but there is no such indication on its storepage.
Interesting, thank you.
Posted June 21, 2016
Well here it is, straight from nordic:

"Thanks for reaching out to us and thanks for your interest in Ori.
Our boxed release of Ori is Steam tied and cannot be installed without installing Steam and then activating the key via Steam.
The key is not separate and rather an integral part so the package is Steam only."

So yeah, Nordic, you can kiss any day one, or not discounted to hell sales from me ever again you disingenuous bastards.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by ReynardFox
Posted June 21, 2016
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ReynardFox: So yeah, Nordic, you can kiss any day one, or not discounted to hell sales from me ever again you disingenuous bastards.
I feel like you need to accept some responsibility for your mistake here. Every link they have on Twitter says the same thing - it's the Steam version getting released to retail. Sounds like you trusted some Random Person on the internet and spent your money without checking first. That's not Nordic's fault.
Posted June 21, 2016
Its always surprising to hear of retail games not needing any online connection to work. I loved browsing retail game shelves. But as a general rule of thumb I consider the retail market scorched earth by steam, origin & uplay. *sigh*
Post edited June 21, 2016 by anothername
Posted June 21, 2016
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ReynardFox: I just received my copy of this game in the mail after comments I was pointed to via GOG users made via the game's official twitter account that it was in fact, DRM Free.

So why the hell does it say Internet connectivity and Steam required all over the box?

I would really appreciate a response from a Nordic rep over this. What is on the disc? Is there a separate Steam key and the disc is DRM free? I need to know. I will be thoroughly pissed off if I've just bought damn Steam product.
Confirmed .

https://cdgalaxis.hu/termekkepek/hatlap/pcg/pcg_ori_and_the_blind_forest_definitive_edition_sad_v1606.jpg
https://cdgalaxis.hu/termekkepek/hatlap/pcg/pcg_ori_and_the_blind_forest_definitive_edition_femtokos_sad_v1606.jpg

Both mention Steam .
Posted June 21, 2016
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OneFiercePuppy: I feel like you need to accept some responsibility for your mistake here. Every link they have on Twitter says the same thing - it's the Steam version getting released to retail. Sounds like you trusted some Random Person on the internet and spent your money without checking first. That's not Nordic's fault.
If by random people you mean a response from the official Ori facebook page of "no DRM" to the question.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by ReynardFox
Posted June 21, 2016
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ReynardFox: So yeah, Nordic, you can kiss any day one, or not discounted to hell sales from me ever again you disingenuous bastards.
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OneFiercePuppy: I feel like you need to accept some responsibility for your mistake here. Every link they have on Twitter says the same thing - it's the Steam version getting released to retail. Sounds like you trusted some Random Person on the internet and spent your money without checking first. That's not Nordic's fault.
Not only this, but he made the always dangerous assumption that another person's definition of what "DRM" means matches his own. Anyone who's been gaming on PC for more than a year or two, and who cares about DRM-free, should know to ask for clarification if one of those Random Internet Strangers says that something's "DRM-free".
EDIT: Yes, this even includes representatives of the developers/publishers. Especially includes them.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by HunchBluntley
Posted June 21, 2016
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ReynardFox: So yeah, Nordic, you can kiss any day one, or not discounted to hell sales from me ever again you disingenuous bastards.
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OneFiercePuppy: I feel like you need to accept some responsibility for your mistake here. Every link they have on Twitter says the same thing - it's the Steam version getting released to retail. Sounds like you trusted some Random Person on the internet and spent your money without checking first. That's not Nordic's fault.
Indeed, do your research (or at least look at the box....) before passing blame. It is not like Nordic hid the fact that you needed Steam to download the game.
Posted June 21, 2016
Alright, yeah, I will admit I should have researched this more and I will take the blame for actually having some blinkered optimism about a retail PC release in this steam-ruined age.

When I ordered the disc there was no sign of a GOG release actually happening and I felt like this was my only shot at the game... and it was foolish of me to not question anything done by Nordic given the numerous times they have pissed me off with previous releases.

I will say however that I am not letting Nordic off the hook and maintain that If an official representative states "No DRM" and then expects the user to still use Steam, then they are ignorant at best and a liar at worst.

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amok: Indeed, do your research (or at least look at the box....) before passing blame. It is not like Nordic hid the fact that you needed Steam to download the game.
There was no proper box scans to look at when I ordered it. None of the official PR shots used the actual game box either, just a simplified one without any disclaimers.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by ReynardFox
Posted June 21, 2016
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ReynardFox: Alright, yeah, I will admit I should have researched this more and I will take the blame for actually having some blinkered optimism about a retail PC release in this steam-ruined age.

When I ordered the disc there was no sign of a GOG release actually happening and I felt like this was my only shot at the game... and I should never have given Nordic the benefit of the doubt after them pissing me off numerous times with previous releases.

I will say however that I am not letting Nordic off the hook and maintain that If an official representative states "No DRM" and then expects the user to still use Steam, then they are ignorant at best and a liar at worst.
Have you contacted with ThomNG ?
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