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Another case of duplicated macOS DLC installers (Man O' War: Corsair - Warhammer Naval Battles). This information comes from the 'inaccurate' API (as mrkgnao doesn't own this game, nor of course its DLCs), so it's possible that they are not actually duplicated in your libraries. Can someone owning the game and DLCs confirm it, please?

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Games included in this batch:

· Divinity: Original Sin 2
· Man O' War: Corsair - Warhammer Naval Battles

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Divinity: Original Sin 2 has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File added: Patch 3.0.146.969 [Windows] --- Size: 6.0 MB --- Version: 15494 -> 15543

* File changed: Patch 3.0.146.559 (part 1) [Windows] --- Size has not changed (1.0 MB) --- Version has not changed (15276 -> 15450) --- NOTE: the download link has changed for this file.

* File changed: Patch 3.0.146.559 (part 2) [Windows] --- Size has not changed (3.6 GB) --- Version has not changed (15276 -> 15450) --- NOTE: the download link has changed for this file.

* File changed: Patch 3.0.146.559 (part 3) [Windows] --- Size has not changed (1.0 GB) --- Version has not changed (15276 -> 15450) --- NOTE: the download link has changed for this file.

* File changed: Patch 3.0.146.814 [Windows] --- Size has not changed (15.0 MB) --- Version has not changed (15450 -> 15494) --- NOTE: the download link has changed for this file.

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 1 of 7) --- Size has not changed (1.0 MB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 2 of 7) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 3 of 7) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 4 of 7) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 5 of 7) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 6 of 7) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 7 of 7) --- Size has not changed (2.2 GB) --- Version *FROM* 3.0.146.814 *TO* 3.0.146.969


[NO CHANGELOG]

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Man O' War: Corsair - Warhammer Naval Battles has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File removed: DLC: Fledgling Griffon: Mac OS X installer, English

* File removed: DLC: Reik's Fashion: Mac OS X installer, English

* File removed: Patch 1.1.4 [Windows]

* File added: DLC: Fledgling Griffon: Mac OS X installer, English (part 1 of 2) --- Size: 7.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1

* File added: DLC: Fledgling Griffon: Mac OS X installer, English (part 2 of 2) --- Size: 7.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1

* File added: DLC: Reik's Fashion: Mac OS X installer, English (part 1 of 2) --- Size: 80.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1

* File added: DLC: Reik's Fashion: Mac OS X installer, English (part 2 of 2) --- Size: 80.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1

* File added: Patch 1.2.1 [Windows] --- Size: 755.0 MB --- Version: [empty]

* File changed: DLC: Fledgling Griffon: Windows installer, English --- Size *FROM* 10.0 MB *TO* 11.0 MB --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: DLC: Reik's Fashion: Windows installer, English --- Size *FROM* 74.0 MB *TO* 75.0 MB --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size *FROM* 10.9 GB *TO* 11.0 GB --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 1 of 4) --- Size has not changed (1.0 MB) --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 2 of 4) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 3 of 4) --- Size has not changed (4.0 GB) --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 4 of 4) --- Size *FROM* 1.5 GB *TO* 1.6 GB --- Version *FROM* 1.1.4 *TO* 1.2.1


[NO CHANGELOG]
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muntdefems: Another case of duplicated macOS DLC installers (Man O' War: Corsair - Warhammer Naval Battles). This information comes from the 'inaccurate' API (as mrkgnao doesn't own this game, nor of course its DLCs), so it's possible that they are not actually duplicated in your libraries. Can someone owning the game and DLCs confirm it, please?
Your information is correct. They are duplicated in my library.
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ElTerprise: Your information is correct. They are duplicated in my library.
Thanks! If you don't mind I'll take advantage of your kindness and I'll ask you to check whether they point to the same exact file or not.

If they are, it must be a bug. If not, maybe it's a workaround to introduce 32bit and 64bit installers for macOS...
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muntdefems: Thanks! If you don't mind I'll take advantage of your kindness and I'll ask you to check whether they point to the same exact file or not.

If they are, it must be a bug. If not, maybe it's a workaround to introduce 32bit and 64bit installers for macOS...
You're welcome. Not at all - I've just checked it and they point to the same file (see attachment - it's indicated by the added .0 at the end of the file). So it's most likely a bug.
Attachments:
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muntdefems: Thanks! If you don't mind I'll take advantage of your kindness and I'll ask you to check whether they point to the same exact file or not.

If they are, it must be a bug. If not, maybe it's a workaround to introduce 32bit and 64bit installers for macOS...
While multiarch is a good approach, Apple have planned to entirely drop 32 bit soon.
I guess new game developers will not make 32 bit macOS version.
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ElTerprise: You're welcome. Not at all - I've just checked it and they point to the same file (see attachment - it's indicated by the added .0 at the end of the file). So it's most likely a bug.
Thanks again! A bug it is, then. Please GOG, can you fix it?


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kbnrylaec: While multiarch is a good approach, Apple have planned to entirely drop 32 bit soon.
I guess new game developers will not make 32 bit macOS version.
This must be one of the few advantages of having a centralised control of an OS. The use of 32 distros on Linux is also residual, but many game developers must not have realized it as they still release 32bit builds of their games only.
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muntdefems: Thanks again! A bug it is, then. Please GOG, can you fix it?
No problem. Glad I could help :)
All four King's Bounty games are updated, but I only got three update flags.

I always wonder why GOG can make so many mistakes for so simple task.
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King's Bounty: Crossworlds GOTY

Update (11 October 2017)

Added new languages to the game: Chinese (Traditional), Czech, Polish.
Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.

King's Bounty: Dark Side

Update (11 October 2017)

Added Polish language support to King's Bounty: Dark Side.
Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.

King's Bounty: The Legend

Update (11 October 2017)

Added new languages to the game (Windows only): Chinese (Traditional), Czech, Hungarian, Japanese, Polish.
Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.

King's Bounty: Warriors of the North

Update (11 October 2017)

Added Polish language support to King's Bounty: Warriors of the North.
Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.


Sudden Strike 4

Patch 1.03.20098 (11 October 2017)

Introduction of „Classic” (SUS2) multiplayer mode
Normal multiplayer mode is now called „Domination”
2 new large (4vs4) multiplayer maps supporting both „Classic” and „Domination” game modes
Introduction of new mutators: „Zeppelin capture timer” and „Time until defeat timer”
Player count is optimized for multiplayer map sizes
Player names are now displayed ingame (mouse over)
Improved AI: easy, medium and hard settings in Skirmish and Multiplayer
„Domination” modes (Note: Skirmish is not supported on the „Classic” multiplayer maps)
Classic Multiplayer Mode also has more units available like artillery, AT guns, etc.
Improved stability
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macOS installers are back to normal for Offworld Trading Company and Tyranny - Commander Edition:

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Games included in this batch:

· Asura
· Deus Ex™ GOTY Edition
· King's Bounty: Crossworlds GOTY
· King's Bounty: Dark Side
· King's Bounty: The Legend
· King's Bounty: Warriors of the North
· Offworld Trading Company
· Tyranny - Commander Edition

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[Part 1 of 3]

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Asura has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File changed: Windows installer, English --- Size *FROM* 614.0 MB *TO* 613.0 MB --- Version *FROM* 28930 (Fixes Builsd) *TO* 28965 (Live)


[NO CHANGELOG]

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Deus Ex™ GOTY Edition has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File changed: Windows installer, English --- Name has not changed (setup_deus_ex_goty_1.112fm(revision_1.2.2)_(15442).exe) --- Size has not changed (378.8 MB) --- Date has not changed (Thu 05 Oct 2017 10:26:55 GMT) --- Version *FROM* 1.112fm (Revision 1.2.2) *TO* 1.112fm


[NO CHANGELOG]

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King's Bounty: Crossworlds GOTY has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File added: Windows installer, Chinese (part 1 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_chinese_(traditional)_1.3.1_(15492).exe --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 13:22:06 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Chinese (part 2 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_chinese_(traditional)_1.3.1_(15492)-1.bin --- Size: 3.0 GB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 13:21:54 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Czech (part 1 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_czech_1.3.1_(15492).exe --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 12:59:40 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Czech (part 2 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_czech_1.3.1_(15492)-1.bin --- Size: 3.0 GB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 12:59:29 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Polish (part 1 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_polish_1.3.1_(15492).exe --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 13:14:42 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Polish (part 2 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_polish_1.3.1_(15492)-1.bin --- Size: 3.0 GB --- Date: Sat 07 Oct 2017 13:14:30 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English+German+Italian+Russian+Spanish (part 1 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_goty_2.1.0.6.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_1.3.1_(15492).exe --- Size *FROM* 43.2 MB *TO* 1.0 MB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 *TO* Sat 07 Oct 2017 --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English+German+Italian+Spanish (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_goty_2.1.0.6-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_1.3.1_(15492)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 2.8 GB *TO* 3.0 GB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 *TO* Sat 07 Oct 2017 --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, Russian (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_goty_2.1.0.6-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_crossworlds_russian_1.3.1_(15492)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 2.8 GB *TO* 3.1 GB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 *TO* Sat 07 Oct 2017 --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1


NOTE: The download links for the multi-language installers correspond to the English one. In order to get the links for the other languages, you just need to substitute 'en1' in the URL for 'de1' (German), 'it1' (Italian), 'ru1' (Russian), or 'es1' (Spanish).


[CHANGELOG ADDED]
Update (11 October 2017)

- Added new languages to the game: Chinese (Traditional), Czech, Polish.
- Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.
(Full changelog)

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King's Bounty: Dark Side has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File changed: DLC: Premium Edition Upgrade: Windows installer, English --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_darkside_premium_dlc_2.0.0.5.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_dark_side_premium_edition_1.5_(15533).exe --- Size *FROM* 12.0 MB *TO* 7.9 MB --- Date *FROM* Wed 13 May 2015 13:21:10 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 05:52:08 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.5

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 1 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_darkside_2.0.0.5.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_dark_side_1.5_(15533).exe --- Size *FROM* 34.4 MB *TO* 1.3 MB --- Date *FROM* Tue 28 Apr 2015 12:29:46 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 05:51:59 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.5

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_darkside_2.0.0.5-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_dark_side_1.5_(15533)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 3.3 GB *TO* 3.8 GB --- Date *FROM* Tue 28 Apr 2015 12:42:55 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 05:51:45 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.5


[CHANGELOG ADDED]
Update (11 October 2017)

- Added Polish language support to King's Bounty: Dark Side.
- Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.
(Full changelog)
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[Part 2 of 3]

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King's Bounty: The Legend has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File added: Windows installer, Chinese+Czech+Hungarian+Japanese+Polish (part 1 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_the_legend_chinese_(traditional)_1.7_(15542).exe --- Size: 814.5 KB --- Date: Mon 09 Oct 2017 15:19:23 GMT --- Version: 1.7

* File added: Windows installer, Chinese+Czech+Hungarian+Japanese+Polish (part 2 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_the_legend_chinese_(traditional)_1.7_(15542)-1.bin --- Size: 3.0 GB --- Date: Mon 09 Oct 2017 15:19:11 GMT --- Version: 1.7

* File changed: Windows installer, English (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_2.1.0.10-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_the_legend_1.7_(15542)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 2.6 GB *TO* 3.1 GB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 12:47:31 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 15:41:11 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.7

* File changed: Windows installer, English+French+German+Italian+Russian+Spanish (part 1 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_2.1.0.10.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_the_legend_1.7_(15542).exe --- Size *FROM* 34.5 MB *TO* 814.4 KB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 12:12:37 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 15:41:23 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.7

* File changed: Windows installer, French+German+Italian+Russian+Spanish (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_2.1.0.10-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_the_legend_french_1.7_(15542)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 2.6 GB *TO* 3.0 GB --- Date *FROM* Mon 02 Feb 2015 12:47:31 GMT *TO* Mon 09 Oct 2017 15:33:55 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.7


NOTE: The download links for the multi-language installers correspond to either the Chinese or the English ones. In order to get the links for the other languages, you just need to substitute 'cn1' or 'en1' in the URLs for 'cz1' (Czech), 'fr1' (French), 'de1' (German), 'hu1' (Hungarian), 'it1' (Italian), 'jp1' (Japanese), 'pl1' (Polish), 'ru1' (Russian), or 'es1' (Spanish).


[CHANGELOG ADDED]
Update (11 October 2017)

- Added new languages to the game (Windows only): Chinese (Traditional), Czech, Hungarian, Japanese, Polish.
- Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.
(Full changelog)

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King's Bounty: Warriors of the North has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File added: DLC: Complete Edition Upgrade: Windows installer, German+Polish+Russian --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_premium_edition_german_1.3.1_(15562).exe --- Size: 324.4 MB --- Date: Tue 10 Oct 2017 --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Polish (part 1 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_polish_1.3.1_(15562).exe --- Size: 972.8 KB --- Date: Tue 10 Oct 2017 10:58:21 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File added: Windows installer, Polish (part 2 of 2) --- Name: setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_polish_1.3.1_(15562)-1.bin --- Size: 3.8 GB --- Date: Tue 10 Oct 2017 10:58:07 GMT --- Version: 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English+Russian (part 1 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_wotn_2.1.0.2.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_1.3.1_(15562).exe --- Size *FROM* 34.4 MB *TO* 972.6 KB --- Date *FROM* Fri 27 Mar 2015 *TO* Tue 10 Oct 2017 --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, English+Russian (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_wotn_2.1.0.2-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_1.3.1_(15562)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 3.2 GB *TO* 3.8 GB --- Date *FROM* Fri 27 Mar 2015 *TO* Tue 10 Oct 2017 --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, German (part 1 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_wotn_german_2.1.0.2.exe *TO* setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_german_1.3.1_(15562).exe --- Size *FROM* 34.4 MB *TO* 972.7 KB --- Date *FROM* Fri 27 Mar 2015 11:37:10 GMT *TO* Tue 10 Oct 2017 10:49:54 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1

* File changed: Windows installer, German (part 2 of 2) --- Name *FROM* setup_kings_bounty_wotn_german_2.1.0.2-1.bin *TO* setup_kings_bounty_warriors_of_the_north_german_1.3.1_(15562)-1.bin --- Size *FROM* 3.2 GB *TO* 3.7 GB --- Date *FROM* Fri 27 Mar 2015 11:38:07 GMT *TO* Tue 10 Oct 2017 10:49:39 GMT --- Version *FROM* [empty] *TO* 1.3.1


NOTE: The download links for the multi-language installers correspond to either the English or the German ones. In order to get the links for the other languages, you just need to substitute 'en1' or 'de1' in the URLs for 'pl1' (Polish), or 'ru1' (Russian).


[CHANGELOG ADDED]
Update (11 October 2017)

- Added Polish language support to King's Bounty: Warriors of the North.
- Added GOG Galaxy cloud saves and overlay support.
(Full changelog)
Post edited October 11, 2017 by little_helper
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[Part 3 of 3]

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Offworld Trading Company has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File removed: DLC: Blue Chip Ventures: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: DLC: Ceres Initiative: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: DLC: Jupiter's Forge: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: DLC: Real Mars Map Pack: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: DLC: Scenario Toolkit: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: DLC: The Patron and the Patriot: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-4)

* File removed: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File added: DLC: Blue Chip Ventures: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: DLC: Ceres Initiative: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: DLC: Jupiter's Forge: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 38.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: DLC: Real Mars Map Pack: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: DLC: Scenario Toolkit: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 6.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: DLC: The Patron and the Patriot: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762

* File added: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 484.0 MB --- Version: 1.16.17762


[NO CHANGELOG]

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Tyranny - Commander Edition has changed


[FILE UPDATES]

* File removed: DLC: Bastard's Wound: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File removed: DLC: Coat of Arms: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File removed: DLC: Portrait Pack: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File removed: DLC: Pre-Order: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File removed: DLC: Tales from the Tiers: Mac OS X installer, English (parts 1-2)

* File added: DLC: Bastard's Wound: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 493.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1.0156 (B)

* File added: DLC: Coat of Arms: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1.0156 (B)

* File added: DLC: Portrait Pack: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 213.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1.0156 (B)

* File added: DLC: Pre-Order: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1.0156 (B)

* File added: DLC: Tales from the Tiers: Mac OS X installer, English --- Size: 1.0 MB --- Version: 1.2.1.0156 (B)


[NO CHANGELOG]
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muntdefems: Deus Ex™ GOTY Edition has changed

[FILE UPDATES]

* File changed: Windows installer, English --- Name has not changed (setup_deus_ex_goty_1.112fm(revision_1.2.2)_(15442).exe) --- Size has not changed (378.8 MB) --- Date has not changed (Thu 05 Oct 2017 10:26:55 GMT) --- Version *FROM* 1.112fm (Revision 1.2.2) *TO* 1.112fm
For those who have slow network:
The file have no any change. GOG just make the text on Library page more clear.
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kbnrylaec: For those who have slow network:
The file have no any change. GOG just make the text on Library page more clear.
Yeah, maybe I should make it clearer whenever a file isn't updated but one of its attributes (usually the version) changes.
Tonight I've received an update flag for "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream", but the changelog is dated 9th October for a language fix with Galaxy, yet I don't recall seeing it mentioned in this thread up to now (but maybe I missed it?).