So you are saying that the problem would not exist if Bethesda would have a good reputation? Interesting logic.

What I don't get is why GOG just didn't leave the Spear of Destiny game for all previous owners like they do for any other delisted games.
Bethesda ordered them to relocate Spear of Destiny to Wolfestein 3D without FormGen missions - fine. But did they deliberately forced GOG to remove the purchased copies for the old Spear of Destiny as well, I can't imagine that. It makes no sense, it's illegal even.

So far GOG removed TES: Arena & Daggerfall which I was given as a bonus for my Wolfenstein 3D purchase and then later original Spear of Destiny game which was part of Wolfenstein 3D pack. Gosh, Wolfenstein 3D is cursed for sure. What if that removal happened all at the same time even. Curious.

[EDIT] I was wrong, I bought Quake 1 earlier than any other game from id Software | Bethesda. So Wolfenstein 3D is not cursed, the relocation process is. I would not be surprised if the deletion was done accidentally by GOG staff and now they can't re-add it back because of the regulations (Bethesda's rights expiration). And they would ignore it till our death. This is so stupid that it could be true.

You may be right, perhaps GOG did not realize what they were doing or because the extra pack had a bad reputation, did not think enough people would care, and now it is too late. Or maybe they could correct it, but any flipflop now could make them look silly to most ... not to me though, and many others would like me just be grateful for the return.

We can speculate all we like, but no doubt Bethesda is at the heart of the matter, and it may be as simple as not wanting to pay the owner(s) of the extra mission packs, which they would likely have to do with any repackaging. Maybe there is some dispute happening between parties ... likely financial, which can screw a lot of things.

Sorry I meant Bethesda's problem not the customers in this case.

Bethesda will lose more money from their reputation ending up in the muck than from any boycotts.

Isn't it fun how we have to play the guessing game in favor for GOG or Bethesda just because no one of those who we pay their salarys is willing to talk with us?

To be precise GOG removed both titles from the user's game library: Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny.

I know it because I specifically tagged both games with "FPS" tag, additionally Wolfenstein 3D with "Completed" tag and Spear of Destiny with "Must Complete" tag because those 2 extra missions weren't finished to this day.

When I checked my library on a website I've found only Wolfenstein 3D game without any previously attached tags hence both items were removed and changed for a new *upgraded* Wolfenstein 3D title both for old and new buyers - the equality approach.

Silly or not, I'd rather GOG silently (even if manually) add the removed Spear of Destiny title to the game library for each and every buyer before the change. I don't care about any official statements or apologizing (who needs those anyway?), just give me back what I've paid for. Simple.

At worst reimburse my GOG wallet for a fraction of money. Otherwise it's against the law.

I have access to it yet, but that might be the exception and not the rule due to not refreshing my library. Game downloaded and installed fine with both Mission Packs about 5 min ago (I also have an old backup and the files are unchanged). So technically it is still there, although it sounds like most do not have access to it. Anyone else have access to the old Wolfenstein 3d: Spear of Destiny entry yet?

Yep, it is totally a pain.
I don't doubt they have good reasons, in their eyes, to not be as communicative with us as we do wish they were.

I guess my relationship with GOG, and with providers like Bethesda too, is one of statistics ... perhaps even like my relationships with anybody ... good versus bad.

In my relationship with GOG, there is a lot of positives, far more than the negatives.

In my relationship with Bethesda, there is also more positives than negatives. Hell just having a presence at GOG, and with a significant number of games is a large percentage of positive.

I could if I wanted, be totally negative toward any game provider who doesn't provide to GOG or DRM-Free customers. That would have meant though, on me missing out on some great bargains, some of which later turned out to be DRM-Free Lite, and also a lot of free games, especially via Epic.

I could have expanded upon that and even included game providers who barely had a presence on GOG, with most of their games being on Steam etc with DRM. That would likely have meant missing out on a lot of games I bought at GOG.

But one has to be a realist.

While I don't like and don't agree with DRM, on games or anything else, I do understand why many default to it .... fear for the most part, being brainwashed as well, especially supportive customers, and not a little greed in some quarters. Not everyone is a rocket scientist, and not everyone is particularly bright or able to follow logic very well. Even many bright people struggle with logic. And many just cannot handle the notion that some will get their product for free via piracy, and they figure it is okay to penalize the huge majority in flawed attempts to stop that being done by the very few.

It is a sad but true fact, that DRM is the default in this world.

So while some things do truly annoy me about GOG, they are a beacon of light in the darkness, not the only one, but certainly the most significant by a long shot. And any game provider who significantly supports GOG, has to bask in some of that light, despite other annoying things they might do.

Me and million others are waiting for Starfield. And I bet you all are gonna play ES6. I think ES6 is gonna be eyecandy to the fullest, maybe we can finally see some realistic medieval armors etc.

I just did a download of the installer and only found Spear of Destiny mission 1 in the directory. Since I have the game on Steam, I was able to confirm the missing files. It seems there may be 3 different versions of the installer in GOG's CDN. One is just Wolfenstein, one is Wolfenstein & SOD, and one is Wolfenstein, SOD, and the other 2 SOD mission packs. As a control, I just checked the Gamepass version of Wolfenstein and it is missing the TWO ADD ON PACKS! Checking the Steam forums, it looks like the mission packs have been removed in their entirity from purchase anywhere.

As someone who owns the original Skyrim (which was later delisted, with none of the expansions offered on discount), I will not be buying ES6 until maybe 10 years after it comes out when I am sure that Bethesda aren't trying to milk a second or third sale out of its customers. It's a shame, Skyrim was a decent game and I love the lore, but it's not worth buying twice let alone three times as I presume some people have done.

But ES6 won't be released for a long time if at all, so it's a moot point at the moment.

Are the missions supposed to be in the SOD installer?

Not sure if I even knew about these extra missions. Kinda shitty nonetheless if they have been removed from our accounts.
I have all games backed up to my NAS. But it's sad if new buyers miss out.

Yes, last file I have named *setup_spear_of_destiny_2.0.0.6.exe*

When installed, the default folder is ..\Spear of Destiny, 3 separate folders should be present there: M1 (Spear of Destiny), M2 (Return to Danger) and M3 (Ultimate Challenge).

Spear of Destiny as a game id was completely removed for most buyers of the originally offered Wolfenstein 3D pack.
It's not clear if those who still retained the access to Spear of Destiny in their library would have it after the account refresh or not. There is a chance that it's a mistake and only part of the users were affected.

User EnforcerSunWoo might help shed light on that one day.

At the moment I have only access to the modified latest version of Wolfenstein 3D game with the added Spear of Destiny, website and GOG Galaxy, the Galaxy has no option to download previous versions for some reason (not that it would help anyway). M2 & M3 folders are missing so are the expansion missions.

Last release with both mission packs is as follows:

setup_spear_of_destiny_1.4_(28045).exe

I have my own speculation as to why they were removed and will never be available again.

Also not exactly in a hurry to refresh the account and potentially lose them (even though I do still have my backups). It is interesting that the entries still exist, so the speculation that the original entries were deleted is false. Frankly giving Marko the runaround by both GOG and Bethesda is frankly one of the most stupid things that I have heard. It is like neither wants to take responsibility for this. Nothing like passing the buck or juggling the problem back and forth like a game of hot potato.

For those saying that it doesn't matter because the mission packs are of poor quality need to wake the fuck up. It is immaterial when it comes to the quality of the product, it is the principle of the thing. Completely removing access to something that was paid for is terrible and sets a bad precedent for other such occurrences.

Would it be false if you lose your Spear of Destiny after the account refresh? Only if they are not you can state them to be false.

My speculation was based on facts. I had 2 games in my library with 2 tags applied to each, now I can see only 1 and without any tags. Plus Wolfenstein 3D in GOG Galaxy has no option to dowload previous versions like it's the only one available from the start.

There is no any other explanation other than that the original 2 entries of Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny being completely removed if not for all then for part of the users. Unless you have a better explanation.

See attached.