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Ixamyakxim: No way I loved the combat! ;) Armor degradation and Will were cool mechanics.
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BlackDawn: The problem is when you kill enemies remaining ones get more turns. So it just boils down to reducing them to 1 hp which is a chore and terrible design.
Yup I used to do that all the time. When I thought I couldn't mop up the baddies I'd leave those helpless limping fools around, half dead and swinging their weapons uselessly.

Or I'd attack over a "wider area" spreading my damage out more (as opposed to focusing fire like I tend to do in TBS games). I liked that it switched up how I was used to thinking about playing these sort of games.

I had a set of nasty archer that would be responsible for dropping the armor of particularly hard to crack baddies.

Damnit, now I'm getting bummed that I might not get to play these - look what you did! ;)
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de_Monteynard: For you and for anyone else who might be curious, here is Stoic's official response to another backer and I, who wanted confirmation that they will only provide Steam keys for BS E2 and E3. It should be noted that they cramped that little titbit together with a beta invite and made it Backer only, perhaps to reduce the fallout. You should pay special attention to how they wish to avoid even this semi-public conversation and move to PMs.

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Thanks for your efforts, and for sharing all that info. +1

While I enjoyed the first Banner Saga, and want them to succeed and make more similar games, part of me wishes for the Steam version to show up on torrents all over the interwebs, just so they have to drop their bullshit excuses. It's not like Steam is some sort of magic cure-all against software piracy. Even bigger games, with better protection, still end up being pirated.

Heck, I'd be fine with it if they want to delay the DRM-free version for a few months, if they feel like that would reduce piracy. But their attitude and excuses are really disappointing.
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Ixamyakxim: No way I loved the combat! ;) Armor degradation and Will were cool mechanics.
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BlackDawn: The problem is when you kill enemies remaining ones get more turns. So it just boils down to reducing them to 1 hp which is a chore and terrible design.
I agree, that combat mechanic was very counter-intuitive. I also would have liked some more depth to customization, such as more item slots per character, and perhaps less linear progress on the world map. Overall it was a very solid game, though.
Post edited March 26, 2016 by CharlesGrey
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CharlesGrey: Heck, I'd be fine with it if they want to delay the DRM-free version for a few months, if they feel like that would reduce piracy. But their attitude and excuses are really disappointing.
Well, if you want a DRM-free copy to happen, you should write to them and make it clear that not offering a DRM-free version is just losing them paying customers.

As a matter of fact, I call upon all GOGers that have pledged at the $50 level or above to check out the KS Backer update and to voice their dismay/anger/blind rage in the comments section. All those GOGers who pledged at a lower level or just want to see E2 and 3 released here should contact them either via the comments section of the update, KS PM system or via email/social networks.
Part one was really nice. Would love to see the successor on GOG as well, since I will definitely not buy it on Steam.
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DeMignon: Part one was really nice. Would love to see the successor on GOG as well, since I will definitely not buy it on Steam.
If you wish to take the time, it would be great if you could fire them an email. While Stoic wants to bury the discussion, I wish to keep it an open issue, and the more people we have showing them that a DRM-free release is highly wanted, the better.
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CharlesGrey: While I enjoyed the first Banner Saga, and want them to succeed and make more similar games, part of me wishes for the Steam version to show up on torrents all over the interwebs, just so they have to drop their bullshit excuses. It's not like Steam is some sort of magic cure-all against software piracy. Even bigger games, with better protection, still end up being pirated.

Heck, I'd be fine with it if they want to delay the DRM-free version for a few months, if they feel like that would reduce piracy. But their attitude and excuses are really disappointing.
I would guess that the Steam version will end up on torrent sites all over the 'net, and that they will release on GOG when they run out of excuses. But that's likely a false hope. After all, they still haven't given GOG the Linux release of the first game, that one's only on Steam.
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CharlesGrey: While I enjoyed the first Banner Saga, and want them to succeed and make more similar games, part of me wishes for the Steam version to show up on torrents all over the interwebs, just so they have to drop their bullshit excuses. It's not like Steam is some sort of magic cure-all against software piracy. Even bigger games, with better protection, still end up being pirated.

Heck, I'd be fine with it if they want to delay the DRM-free version for a few months, if they feel like that would reduce piracy. But their attitude and excuses are really disappointing.
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Maighstir: I would guess that the Steam version will end up on torrent sites all over the 'net, and that they will release on GOG when they run out of excuses. But that's likely a false hope. After all, they still haven't given GOG the Linux release of the first game, that one's only on Steam.
Ofc it will unless they decided to add Denuvo. But it just doesnt make sense to have the first game on GOG but not planning to add the 2nd. But after someone mention that they are yet to add the Linux version I can only assume that Stoic dont care about GOG anymore.
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DeMignon: Part one was really nice. Would love to see the successor on GOG as well, since I will definitely not buy it on Steam.
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de_Monteynard: If you wish to take the time, it would be great if you could fire them an email. While Stoic wants to bury the discussion, I wish to keep it an open issue, and the more people we have showing them that a DRM-free release is highly wanted, the better.
I haven't found any eMail address, did you?

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Maighstir: After all, they still haven't given GOG the Linux release of the first game, that one's only on Steam.
There's a Linux port and I have to boot my old WinXP partition atm just for this game? Argh!
Just like with Larry - Reloaded... -.-
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de_Monteynard: If you wish to take the time, it would be great if you could fire them an email. While Stoic wants to bury the discussion, I wish to keep it an open issue, and the more people we have showing them that a DRM-free release is highly wanted, the better.
If it was profitable and/or highly wanted for them to begin with, they would have released it here without hesitation.
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de_Monteynard: If you wish to take the time, it would be great if you could fire them an email. While Stoic wants to bury the discussion, I wish to keep it an open issue, and the more people we have showing them that a DRM-free release is highly wanted, the better.
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zeroxxx: If it was profitable and/or highly wanted for them to begin with, they would have released it here without hesitation.
I find that emotion and not logic rule when it comes to piracy. Some devs don't care that a pirated copy =/= a lost sale. They just don't want anyone using what they feel should have been paid for. Understandable, but they won't get anything from me until they release DRM-free.
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zeroxxx: If it was profitable and/or highly wanted for them to begin with, they would have released it here without hesitation.
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tremere110: I find that emotion and not logic rule when it comes to piracy. Some devs don't care that a pirated copy =/= a lost sale. They just don't want anyone using what they feel should have been paid for. Understandable, but they won't get anything from me until they release DRM-free.
They won't get anything from me without a DRM-free Linux release.
Isn't it ironic that the DRM-free OS only got/gets a DRMed version yet again?
Post edited March 27, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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tremere110: I find that emotion and not logic rule when it comes to piracy. Some devs don't care that a pirated copy =/= a lost sale. They just don't want anyone using what they feel should have been paid for. Understandable, but they won't get anything from me until they release DRM-free.
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Klumpen0815: They won't get anything from me without a DRM-free Linux release.
Isn't it ironic that the DRM-free OS only got/gets a DRMed version yet again?
I feel like installing Steam on Linux is sacrilege.

Bad enough to use it on Windows, but it's just wrong to soil a decent OS with crapware.
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tremere110: I find that emotion and not logic rule when it comes to piracy. Some devs don't care that a pirated copy =/= a lost sale. They just don't want anyone using what they feel should have been paid for. Understandable, but they won't get anything from me until they release DRM-free.
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Klumpen0815: They won't get anything from me without a DRM-free Linux release.
Isn't it ironic that the DRM-free OS only got/gets a DRMed version yet again?
These are the classic egg or chicken first case all over again.

Nobody's wrong, but nobody's right. It's your money, your prerogative, but it's their rights to decide as well.

There may be a success story in GOG (or DRM free in general) like Witcher 3 and Stardew Valley. But the real question is, is the extra effort (different builds, time, labor cost) worth it?

In the end, Steam is the king - including Windows-only, others just mere sidekicks. Statistics don't lie.
Post edited March 27, 2016 by zeroxxx
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blotunga: I need to start the first one... I can't finish without starting, can't I?
Same here. I grabbed the first Banner Saga in a Steam sale last year but haven't played it so far. :D
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Maighstir: After all, they still haven't given GOG the Linux release of the first game, that one's only on Steam.
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Klumpen0815: There's a Linux port and I have to boot my old WinXP partition atm just for this game? Argh!
Yeah. I mean, I have a Steam account. I do use Steam for a few other games, both "natively" (of course some Linux releases are "ported" using Wine-based products) and under Wine. But I have this game (and hundreds others, but that's irrelevant) on GOG, because I prefer that platform to Steam.
Post edited March 27, 2016 by Maighstir