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Vosla: "You can not deny a grown man his steak because a toddler can't chew it" (loosely based on Mark Twain)
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tinyE: Yeah that sounds like something someone from Missouri would say. :P
Say with his bullets?
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tinyE: Yeah that sounds like something someone from Missouri would say. :P
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realkman666: Say with his bullets?
No, Sam Clemens was from Missouri, as am I. It's an inside joke. :P
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realkman666: Say with his bullets?
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tinyE: No, Sam Clemens was from Missouri, as am I. It's an inside joke. :P
Oooh. I meant today's guy. :p
What is the advantage of opening a shop in Germany? Is it worth it to brave certain German Censorship and backlash?
You're welcome. Now go drive to Berlin, and ask Angela Mackerel to drag Germany into the modern times.

On the other hand, considering what party she's associated with, that may be a fruitless effort.
Post edited February 28, 2015 by Darvond
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Gnostic: What is the advantage of opening a shop in Germany? Is it worth it to brave certain German Censorship and backlash?
Being more attractive and easier to use for Germans.
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Gnostic: What is the advantage of opening a shop in Germany?
+2 intimidation
-2 charm

Engineers can be produced at half cost.

Availability of sausages or beer within 3 squares yields significant morale bonus.
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In other words, Germany's lack of freedom of speech and freedom of expression strikes again. Also, while they worry so much about "neo-Nazis" and such, German politicians and bureaucrats say and do nothing about pro-communist bastards like the ones who had no problem with Soviet troops committing one of the worst mass rapes in the history of humanity in 1945 in Berlin and they also say and do nothing about radical Islamists and their sympathizers.

I would love for there to be an active blackmarket of blacklisted video games in Germany just to stick it to such politicians and Chancellor Angie. I know that is not really her last name but I call her that cause of her first.
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Protoss: DRM also is restriction OF sale because or reasons.
And in this case it is the usual racism against Germans that I expected not to see on GOG.
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deleted_user:
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realkman666: His rights over digital goods are being managed and restricted by his IP location.
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deleted_user:
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realkman666: No one said a situation is DRM. You're getting really boring now.
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deleted_user:
Really? What was posted by you and Protoss on this situation says otherwise.

Regardless, you've been boring, but meh I've got nothing better to do really. Have a nice day.
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amok: actually, DRM is one of those terms who do not have any official definition, and you will see it defined in many different ways depending on where you look. Which kind of make a mockery of the whole term, as everyone can define it to as they want. Which is also one of the reason why there is so much discussion about its, since at many times people are not actually talking about the same things.
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deleted_user:
Well I've always seen it labeled as restriction after sale, that's in my 18+ years of gaming. That's what DRM has always been. Only more recently in this digital age have I've seen the definition be warped into whatever people want to make it.
Pardon me, I don't know how the defination of DRM evolve into AFTER PURCHASE, but I thought in the first place DRM was introduce to keep people that does not pay out? That should be BEFORE PURCHASE

Idealy only people who have yet to pay will feel the effects of DRM, and people who paid will not see or feel DRM at all. Now that this thing evolve into affecting honest customer that pay for the software is bad enough, to be widely recognized as something that come into effect AFTER PURCHASE is worst.

DRM is Digital Rights Management, it manages your rights to digital goods, it can be done in a good or bad way. GoG has DRM in the sense that you need to pay to access some digital goods. After you pay you are not restricted to download / use the digital software you pay for, before you pay you are restricted in your ability to download your games.

But now its meaning evolve into screwing you after you pay for something...... that is disheartening, but I guess the term destructive DRM is longer and harder to stick with the public.
Post edited February 28, 2015 by Gnostic
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deleted_user: Well I think it's the only weekend sale your going to get. I also have no idea what "Herlich Willkommen" is... :P
Heartfelt welcome. Herzlichen glückwunsch mit die Deutsche hier.

I regret not going past year 3 in high school German class now.
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deleted_user:
Well I think it's the only weekend sale your going to get. I also have no idea what "Herlich Willkommen" is... :P
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paladin181: Heartfelt welcome. Herzlichen glückwunsch mit die Deutsche hier.

I regret not going past year 3 in high school German class now.
You did not really missed out. High German is a highly artificial stew out of some different German languages with some latin grammar bits thrown in by a medieval emperor. Most germans can't master the grammar properly. Not being a grammar nazi here but even big newspapers have bad grammar and sentence building running rampant.
If you like the German language because it sounds like slow death metal to the foreign ear, try modern hunnish.
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tinyE: Are you suggesting that bars travel?
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InfraSuperman: Everyone needs a vacation once in a while.
I guess bars travel so more people get the change to walk 'into' them. Yes, that was a suggestive statement.
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infinite9: In other words, Germany's lack of freedom of speech and freedom of expression strikes again. Also, while they worry so much about "neo-Nazis" and such, German politicians and bureaucrats say and do nothing about pro-communist bastards like the ones who had no problem with Soviet troops committing one of the worst mass rapes in the history of humanity in 1945 in Berlin and they also say and do nothing about radical Islamists and their sympathizers.

I would love for there to be an active blackmarket of blacklisted video games in Germany just to stick it to such politicians and Chancellor Angie. I know that is not really her last name but I call her that cause of her first.
It's not the lack of freedom of speech. There are only a few things about highly illegal crap and the old nazi routine that are really forbidden like denying the holocaust and such. Restrictions in games are based on an ineffective system of youth protection that simply does not provide a working system like with movies. And those restrictions and bans are not made by the law body but a "voluntary" council. Same as why you can't have tits all day in Britain and the rediculous erotica-based age restrictions in the US (male Shepard smooches with male alien in Mass Effect? Ban ban ban! Ok, didn't happen.) , the blurring of genitals in nippon porn and so on.

There is no need for a black market for most video games as you can buy them legally in other lands.
If you still want Wolfenstein in all its glory, you are out of luck because stupid swastikas. I personally dislike that because the nazis stole it and it's high time to steal it back.

Please don't drag politcal crap like comparisons between nazis, stalinesque communists and people who dammit can't read their Quaran into this. We have active discussions here about this crap all day long and nobody is jailed about it. And thanks mentioning Angie - any erotic thoughts this weekend were culled instantly.
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infinite9: In other words, Germany's lack of freedom of speech and freedom of expression strikes again. Also, while they worry so much about "neo-Nazis" and such, German politicians and bureaucrats say and do nothing about pro-communist bastards like the ones who had no problem with Soviet troops committing one of the worst mass rapes in the history of humanity in 1945 in Berlin and they also say and do nothing about radical Islamists and their sympathizers.

I would love for there to be an active blackmarket of blacklisted video games in Germany just to stick it to such politicians and Chancellor Angie. I know that is not really her last name but I call her that cause of her first.
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Vosla: It's not the lack of freedom of speech. There are only a few things about highly illegal crap and the old nazi routine that are really forbidden like denying the holocaust and such. Restrictions in games are based on an ineffective system of youth protection that simply does not provide a working system like with movies. And those restrictions and bans are not made by the law body but a "voluntary" council. Same as why you can't have tits all day in Britain and the rediculous erotica-based age restrictions in the US (male Shepard smooches with male alien in Mass Effect? Ban ban ban! Ok, didn't happen.) , the blurring of genitals in nippon porn and so on.

There is no need for a black market for most video games as you can buy them legally in other lands.
If you still want Wolfenstein in all its glory, you are out of luck because stupid swastikas. I personally dislike that because the nazis stole it and it's high time to steal it back.

Please don't drag politcal crap like comparisons between nazis, stalinesque communists and people who dammit can't read their Quaran into this. We have active discussions here about this crap all day long and nobody is jailed about it. And thanks mentioning Angie - any erotic thoughts this weekend were culled instantly.
You forget games with child pornography like Wolfenstein: The New Order and South Park: The Stick of Truth. (Note that because it is impossible to import the uncensored games to Germany, this assumption is made because the only legally required reason to forbid an import is child pornography. It could also be a case of bad lawyers, but that is something that can't be assumed at multi billion dollar companies.)
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tinyE: Yeah, while I've been having some fun with these censorship threads, this is getting old. It's like blaming the bartender for refusing to sell to a minor.
I do believe the issue, if I understand it correctly, lies in the fact that before GOG focused on German customers, it did not need to have such restrictions in place. Now that it does, it ... Well, does. So the argument is made that it's been better off before.