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snowkatt: the enterprise was 45 years old in star trek 3
according to star trek.com star trek chronology and the star trek encylopedia 2 and 3 take place in 2285

and technically decker had "command"over the enterprise
for the 2 and a half years it was in a dry dock to be refitted just before the v ger crisis

its abit unclear where the motion(less) picture takes place though
anywhere from 2271 ( doubtfull)
and 2278 ( more likely )

[url=http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating]http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating[/url]
some sources peg it at 2275
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snowkatt: the enterprise was 45 years old in star trek 3
according to star trek.com star trek chronology and the star trek encylopedia 2 and 3 take place in 2285
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and technically decker had "command"over the enterprise
for the 2 and a half years it was in a dry dock to be refitted just before the v ger crisis

its abit unclear where the motion(less) picture takes place though
anywhere from 2271 ( doubtfull)
and 2278 ( more likely )

[url=http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating]http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating[/url]
Thanks for link suggest
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snowkatt: the enterprise was 45 years old in star trek 3
according to star trek.com star trek chronology and the star trek encylopedia 2 and 3 take place in 2285

and technically decker had "command"over the enterprise
for the 2 and a half years it was in a dry dock to be refitted just before the v ger crisis

its abit unclear where the motion(less) picture takes place though
anywhere from 2271 ( doubtfull)
and 2278 ( more likely )

[url=http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating]http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Dating[/url]
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Lord_Kane: some sources peg it at 2275
safest date i suppose
2071 is just unlikely because of the amount kirk scotty and the others have aged
2075-2078 are just more likely judging by their age

2075-76 would make more sense for the refit though
why refit a ship that gets decomissioned after 5 years ?

edit : and what of the enterprise A ?
some claim its been newly build but i doubt that since the constitutions were already showing their age in 2285
so why build a whole new ship in 2286 ?
and the enterprise A get decomissioned in 2293
its a bit dubious to decomission a ship thats 7 years old

more likely is that its indeed a renamed yorktown in the process of being retrofitted
and if its the yorktown it must be at least 63 years old by 2293
a much more fitting age to decomission it


okay nerd off again ;p
Post edited July 24, 2016 by snowkatt
I like the name, I'm not so sure about the ship. Look, I admire Mcquarrie's talent, but I never liked his idea for the Enterprise, and I think his aesthetic was way better suited for Star Wars then Star Trek. And now, decades later Trek has a way better established "feel" to it then it did back then, and the Mcquarrie design feels even less fitting.

Also, the animaiton in that teaser is amazingly bad. It's like something out of a Playstation 2 era game intro. I cannot believe they went with something like that to advertise the new show. Fan productions made for 5$ have better CG.

Now that all that is out of the way- I'm still looking forward to the series, and I don't really care how ugly the ship is (and it's not that bad, it's just not to my liking), or how bad the effects are (and I doubt they will be this bad). As long as we have good scripts and characters and actors doing justice to Star Trek, making a fun, intelligent series, I'll be fine with everything else.
Welp, that ship looks exactly like a FASA design. I know this is test footage but still... WOW.
I am definitely not optimistic at all. Im a die-hard Trek fan and I love every one of the series (we don't talk about Enterprise or the last few movies). Let's see how this plays out and how many fans become shills.
i dont mind the design of the ship
if discovery is indeed set before TOS then it makes sense that the ships look more primitive

but what about the NX series ?
thats just 2 ships and they may just be prototypes
prototypes are often more capable and elborate then production models and the discovery ship might just be a production models based on NX technology

by comparison the original enterprise is from the constitution class
and there are 12 constitution class ships

but this is all based on the idea that discover is pre TOS
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snowkatt: i dont mind the design of the ship
if discovery is indeed set before TOS then it makes sense that the ships look more primitive
I've never heard that before? Any source? Rumors I've seen said that it's set between Star Trek VI and TNG. And now online there's rampant speculation that it's set post-Nemesis after all, and the ship looks like a cross between Federation and Klingon design because Klingons joined the Federation (there's also a sound of a cloaking device at the end of the teaser).
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snowkatt: i dont mind the design of the ship
if discovery is indeed set before TOS then it makes sense that the ships look more primitive
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Breja: I've never heard that before? Any source? Rumors I've seen said that it's set between Star Trek VI and TNG. And now online there's rampant speculation that it's set post-Nemesis after all, and the ship looks like a cross between Federation and Klingon design because Klingons joined the Federation (there's also a sound of a cloaking device at the end of the teaser).
no source just speculation based on the design
which looks a tad ...primitive and angular so i pegged it pre tos and post enterprise
but the interim between 6 and tng could work too

personally i wouldnt mind seeing either
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snowkatt: i dont mind the design of the ship
if discovery is indeed set before TOS then it makes sense that the ships look more primitive
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Breja: I've never heard that before? Any source? Rumors I've seen said that it's set between Star Trek VI and TNG. And now online there's rampant speculation that it's set post-Nemesis after all, and the ship looks like a cross between Federation and Klingon design because Klingons joined the Federation (there's also a sound of a cloaking device at the end of the teaser).
That was rumour sadly: There has been no official statement about when its set, just that its not set in the kelvin timeline.
Post edited July 24, 2016 by Lord_Kane
As a longtime fan of Star Trek, I sincerely hope they're not going to make another "past" Star Trek show. That was arguably one of the main reasons why "Enterprise" failed. When a show is arbitrarily set in the past, it screws up the stories and the timeline. Why can't they make a Star Trek show set after the Voyager/Nemesis era? They should keep it in the "Prime" timeline. It would make so much more sense to do this.
Post edited July 24, 2016 by IronArcturus
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Breja: I've never heard that before? Any source? Rumors I've seen said that it's set between Star Trek VI and TNG. And now online there's rampant speculation that it's set post-Nemesis after all, and the ship looks like a cross between Federation and Klingon design because Klingons joined the Federation (there's also a sound of a cloaking device at the end of the teaser).
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Lord_Kane: That was rumour sadly: There has been no official statement about when its set, just that its not set in the kelvin timeline.
..wel...balls
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IronArcturus: As a longtime fan of Star Trek, I sincerely hope they're not going to make another "past" Star Trek show. That was arguably one of the main reasons why "Enterprise" failed. When a show is arbitrarily set in the past, it screws up the stories and the timeline. Why can't they make a Star Trek show set after the Voyager/Nemesis era? They should keep it in the "Prime" timeline. It would make so much more sense to do this.
and in between tng and tos ?
Post edited July 24, 2016 by snowkatt
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snowkatt: and in between tng and tos ?
Well the ship design they're showing is from "Phase II." It was the prototype for Star Trek: TMP. So that could mean they're making another TOS/pre-TOS series. I'm afraid it would be doomed to failure if that is the case.
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snowkatt: and in between tng and tos ?
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IronArcturus: Well the ship design they're showing is from "Phase II." It was the prototype for Star Trek: TMP. So that could mean they're making another TOS/pre-TOS series. I'm afraid it would be doomed to failure if that is the case.
but pre tng ?
because that 75 year period is a blank in so far i know
I really hope it turns out to be post- Nemesis. It gives them most freedom to do whatever and opens up a possibility of some characters from TNG/DS9/VOY showing up at some point. I'd love to see Riker in a similar role to Admiral Forest from Ent. I see no reason to do a prequel or mid-quel or whatever when they can easily just move forward.
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snowkatt: and in between tng and tos ?
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IronArcturus: Well the ship design they're showing is from "Phase II." It was the prototype for Star Trek: TMP. So that could mean they're making another TOS/pre-TOS series. I'm afraid it would be doomed to failure if that is the case.
Enterprise in my opinion didnt fail because of that, it failed because they did future winkwank stories, and personally I felt the temporal cold war was the dumbest, if they focused on some of the early threats and challenges the UE starfleet had exploring space and establishing itself, then finish off with the UE/Romulan war = much better series.

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Breja: I really hope it turns out to be post- Nemesis. It gives them most freedom to do whatever and opens up a possibility of some characters from TNG/DS9/VOY showing up at some point. I'd love to see Riker in a similar role to Admiral Forest from Ent. I see no reason to do a prequel or mid-quel or whatever when they can easily just move forward.
I highly doubt that considering the design and the age of the vessel seen.
Post edited July 24, 2016 by Lord_Kane