I'm tired of you derailing my thread. Make your case, chimp. I'm listening.

A'ight, seeing as he hasn't been mature enough to reply to me in this thread and has continued to derail my other one, let's address his arguments here.

Sachys:
"Actually, it IS being disrespectful - to fox, wpegg, Ian, momo1991, IAmSinistar, and anybody that ever gave something here with anything more than a "here free code" sign. If you had been around for any lenght of time, or given any level of care about anybody on here, you might know that."
- And now I'm giving something away with more than a "here free code" sign. You have a problem with this? I still don't get how it's disrespectful, but if I've offended anybody, I truly apologize.

""Some of the members here look pretty disfavorably upon code-dropping, and they hold some pretty nice giveaways as an alternative. Considering the quality of what they've got, I'm perfectly fine with staying away from the thread in exchange for being able to nab some of their stuff."

Suggests a LOT about your character.

I'm not Teshra. I provide evidence. State your case you crook!"

My response:
- At that time, I had no idea what the problem was with the Ninja Giveaway thread since I hadn't been around long enough. I was just thinking "Oh, gee, cool, a giveaway!" There was no way I COULD know. You have explicitly stated before that TBBOB is an "alternative" to the Ninja Giveaway thread. Therefore, it follows logically that I would stop participating in the Ninja Giveaway so I could participate in yours.
But, whatever. Ok. I won't participate in your giveaway. Problem solved.

Sachys:
"How many games am I allowed to ask for, here? I see the arrival of the scammers already, and if previous giveaways are any indicator, it usually signifies the quick decline and fall of the entire thread. So, before either everything dies out or the thing gets closed down, let me just come out and say that I'm interested in the following:
Before the Echo
Collisions
David.
Frederic: Evil Strikes Back
Frederic: Resurrection of Music
Hare In The Hat
Odysseus: Long Way Home
Portal of Evil
The Detail Episode 1
Treeker: The Lost Glasses
Only problem is, it's not exactly fair of me to ask for all of these. Therefore, I'd like to ask that, if it comes down to the very end, nobody's asking for anything anymore, the thread turns into a hive of alt accounts (cue one of these idiots accusing me of being one), and just NOBODY will take them and you're dying to get rid of 'em, that I may have them. I can also give you/the thread some games in return, if you'd like.

Also, I feel that I should mention that I'm not sure DarkBase 01 is even redeemable anymore. The developer had some sort of meltdown and removed it from Steam."

"Admittedly, I could easily do what you guys are doing if I wanted to, but even easier than you're doing it. I'm already a well-known and trusted member of the community just by making posts. 2 months later, I'm at, as I said, 100+ games in my pocket I could dash off with at any time if I so desired. And on top of that, people ENCOURAGING me to take these games, and others.
I don't see why it hasn't occurred to either of you to just drop the entire act, start fresh from an alt account, and actually have fun participating in the community. It would put the rep system back to normal, stop everybody from being so paranoid, and you could simply ask for games you want. You can't possibly tell me you're going to play through 650+ games that quickly."

* * * * *

Want me to dig into your "community" giveaway too?!

- i mean you never took any games from that, did you?!"

My response:
- Obviously you haven't been paying much attention, amigo. About half of these games got moved to my giveaway. I took them because I knew people besides myself I thought would like them.
But even aside from that, I have NEVER taken anything without EXPLICITLY asking permission. Heck, I've even been ENCOURAGED by these people to take things. So let me get this straight, if there's a bucket marked "free", I'm suddenly the villain for taking from the bucket? All these people wanted was to make sure a game would go to somewhere that they'd be played. If that person is me, it's really no place of yours to judge me for taking what they offered. On top of that, I've given away plenty of games here myself, it's just that I've been silent about it. Ask around. I gift quietly.
As far as the 10-game post, I even offered to replace what I took with games from my collection, but Blarth turned down the offer.
As far as the post about scamming, since when have I actually done that? I was stating a hypothetical situation. All 200+ of those games are still up there. I haven't gone anywhere with them.

Yeah, whatever, you don't have to like me, but don't illogically accuse me of stealing from the "free" bin. I've always asked explicit permission, and these people could have very well turned me down if they so desired. I've done what I can to try to build up this community in a positive way, and you aren't going to stop me from doing that. And furthermore, next time you have an issue with me, PLEASE be mature enough about it to ACTUALLY come forward in an APPROPRIATE place to talk about it.



In case any of you are wondering, here's where he started to derail my thread. Start at this post and scroll down:

I'm tired of you derailing my posts.DON'T make your case,troll as I'm not listening.

:)

Are we going to start making it a tradition to air our dirty laundry in public? Might I suggest the PM button under a user's name?

I didn't want to do this, but he started it by utterly derailing my court thread:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_puzzlemasters_court_2_death_and_the_mafioso
I repeatedly asked him to either PM me or make a separate thread for it. He refused.
And I can't PM him, he's changed his settings so that only people he's added to his friend list can do that.

Not 100% sure what the problems is between you two guys, but I think you're both better than this, no reason to go at each other for some minor differences (though I have to admit I don't know the full story, so what I say is based on what I've seen of you so far), the only ones who probably profit from this are the real scammers, who get a laugh out of it and have an easier time, with respected members infighting rather than working together to actually improve the community and make those arsehole's sorry lifes harder. Don't think Sachys allows PMs, so guess it's the only way zeo found.
Not the best one, but hardly another avaible besides derailing other unrelated threads.

Honestly, I really wish I didn't have to do this, but, as I've already stated, he came forward and derailed my whole court game already, so this is basically my only option to get him to quit. I have no problem with him and want to think he's a decent person, but he's showing some really immature behavior by doing that. I'm not even going after him, I'm just defending myself against the comments he made.

I understand that, and not saying you're wrong for that.

Not even sure why he did that, as you're both pretty vocal anti-scammers and usually rather nice people from what I've seen.

It tjust seems like such a waste, having good people fight for nothing without any real reason (as far as I know, at least).

Trust me, I feel the same that you do. However, if you've known Sachys' reputation, it's not very easy to get him to back down once he's gotten riled up.
I've decided to go ahead and address his concerns because if he's going about the forum accusing me, there's no doubt that others have these concerns as well. As somebody running a giveaway where a lot of codes pass through my hands, I feel that I have a responsibility to uphold to these people to show that I'm honest.

Yeah, I know what you mean, just hope he realizes that he might have just gone after the wrong target / guy sooner rather than later, before actual harm is done and things escalate too far...

In the end, I can only hope you two can sort things out calmly and civilzed.


Unrelated Sidenote: stupid quotes won't work... again.

What the... another drama?
Zeogold, confess, you're just jealous that tinyE got all the attention :P

Oh man tinyE what I've read couple of days sure has gotten attention and still does. Hopefully his ego doesn't blow up like his Abigail. ;)

Don't I wish.
Hey, at least he deserves it.
Say, where's that "Official TinyE Appreciation Thread" gotten to? I should go bump it again.

Well he seems to be a non-stop all around fun guy. Especially I liked that thing when he said about 5 hours in dentist, some one asked something and he replied that it sucked. That was actually pretty good. ^^