Don't underestimate newbies. It's not that hard to figure out how to play Hitler. Every single guide to this game gives the easy path...pretend to be a liberal until the end. I'm definitely not saying Greek is Hitler, far from it, way too many options, but he is certainly in the discussion. There are a fair number of reasons he makes sense, but we aren't to 3F yet, there's more tales to be told before that point.

Captain Dedo removes his cutlass from the table and proceeds to brandish it menacingly. After looking around the room at the council, he barks an order at Big Brass.
"GET UP, YA SCURVY SCOUNDREL!"
Brass is walked out of the room at cutlass-point, the soldiers closing the doors behind the two. Muffled whispers interspersed with loud Portuguese curses and the occasional tuba honk are heard. After a few moments, the both of them walk back in and return to their appointed seats.

Brasas has been investigated by dedoporno.

The current president is RWarehall, who must pick a chancellor. The chancellor cannot be anyone from the previous government (deoporno, supplementscene).

https://i.imgur.com/uZ7gmF2.jpg

This is a reach even for you RW.
Help me out here, should all one shot cops be disregarded because they might be scum faking it?

Unfortunately for me I will only be assured of losing my paranoia if you lie... I call it the dedoparnoing... tricky procedure...

I was not sure what distinction you were trying to highlight... so I asked...

The facile answer is because you're scum and he's not. :P But I'll answer you in depth a bit later (need to pull old stuff up). Spoiler: You really won't like it...

OK. Dedo. Let us know what you found. Then we'll discuss the various things it might mean about you and Brasas.

I only have enough time to reply to one post right now, off to work, will try to reply to others later.

Regarding @ZFR claim there is no incentive for a Fascist President to claim he passed 2 F to a Liberal President. Well there is, if there is no argument with the Chancellor it makes any investigation more believable. The Chancellor looks suspect anyway so the President can kill 2 birds with one stone, or 2 Liberals with 1 stone.

You really are digging deeper here. Please tell all how exactly you were sure Dedoporno was Scum? How were you so convinced Dedo was Scum? So much so you accurately predicted a fascist policy passing? That is knowledge that nothing in the game has indicated regarding Dedoporno.

Sure with me you could if you were Liberal (you aren't), that me accusing you. But even then I initially picked you as a likely Liberal in a completely unknown environment because of your initial support of me and your statistical analysis.

The fact you knew though means 1 or 2 things. 1. You knew Dedo was fascist 2. You knew Scene and Dedo were liberals and played the odds off an FFF draw to see if you could discredit both

The fact your said to be a highly intelligent player means if you were Liberal you would not make assumptions based on an accusation from Scene and little info about Dedo

This alongside my prior analysis:

Plus RWarehall quotes:

1. I tend to trust ZFR, some others seemingly don't.

2. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with an extra government before Greek's if that meant both ZFR and mine pass. I don't think the extra step would really hurt us

3. I look at ZFR and while there is a healthy dose of what could be either devil's advocate liberalism or subtle fascist passing of shade, I notice that a few times he has brought up very important points such as his explanation of why a fascist would be passing 2L to a liberal instead of 1L1F.

4. Let's be clear, I'm supportive because ZFR has said all the right things so far

5. One thing I was hoping to take out of this election is ZFR's alignment based on who might try to derail it (or whether than turned out to be nobody in which case he'd be almost definitely fascist given our lead). When I saw Kusu fight it, my first thought is that's one fascist trying to derail a liberal win.

6. It's posts like this that make me believe you are not what you claim. If you were a liberal, you'd realize how impossible it is to spot Hitler (because I've been trying to think up creative ways to do so). You'd also have a greater appreciation of how difficult it is to spot a fascist and how much guesswork is involved. There usually is no "probably" about it, just hair-pulling and doubt. That said, I now do have you in the "probably fascist" camp, but it took this slip of yours to do it.

7. My preference for the last 3 before Greek is:
Blotunga - not much to go on, but more than Adalia
Adalia - I don't trust Brasas, middle by default

Analysis

1. Backing ZFR

2. Lobbing for both his and ZFRs governments

3. The fact ZFR criticised the passing of is a good thing. I still maintain this is the best way of liberal cause. Neither RW or ZFR agree.

4. This is clearly wrong and a lie. ZFR even if Liberal definitely hasn't said 'all the right things'. I questioned in 362 about this asking if RWarehall is fascist.

5. Now this is an odd post. Why is Kusu being accused of being fascist from very little evidence? Have I missed something or is this a huge defensive deflection.

6. A further accusation that Kusu is Facist.

7. OK THIS IS HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE. RWarehall's Presidential preferences are all of the Yes voters for ZFR. No way is this a coincidence.

I've been keeping up to date but haven't got an awful lot of time to post anything.

I'd say the next government boils down to a 50/50 chance of a L or F policy depending on the draw and alignment of the president, not a lot more to be said about it. Then we're into reshuffle territory and things get more complicated.

Interested to see the results of the investigation. I can't say I'm confident it will be accurate though.

I'm actually somewhat stumped by this result but Brasas is indeed a Townie and basically the only one that is 100% trustworthy in my book now.

Holy cow. Brasas is actually a liberal? O_o

Or dedo is a fascist.

A liberal read can mean one of three things:

1. both investigator and investigated are actually liberal
2. both investigator and investigated are fascists
3. investigator is fascist, the investigated is liberal and the investigator wants to buddy up to him for various reasons

The only combination that is excluded now is: dedo liberal and Brasas fascist. Because a liberal dedo would not have any reason to lie about his investigation result.

Well, then the next president should be Brasas and preferably with greek as a chancellor. The chances for a FFF are only 10% if nobody lied about the discards, which means that we should see very likely another Liberal policy passed. If not, then both you and Brasas are highly suspect of being scum.

This

@kusu, blotunga and greek: what are your reasons to trust dedo's read unquestioningly?

@scene: didn't you write half of your post already earlier? Why repeat it?

I don't trust it, I play the numbers game. If I get FF by brasas, both dedo and brasas are fascists and we are still good I think.

^This. It means that 2/4 fascists are outed or indeed Brasas and dedo are liberal.

Cause it's the truth?