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General discussionScariest DRM you've seen?(114 posts)(114 posts)
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Posted October 29, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Renault Zoe Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Pay Rent For My Battery
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adaliabooks: Wow. I knew about renting the batteries (I've always been intrigued by electric cars, but they don't actually work out cheaper than normal ones due to the battery rental costs) but I didn't realise they could just disable your whole car if you stopped paying it :/
That's still nothing compared to the DRM fiasco that occurred with John Deere: http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/07/01/john-deere-gm-push-back-against-consumer-modifications-of-vehicle-software/id=59014/
Posted October 29, 2016
Shit!

We have a John Deere!

She's a beauty too. Me and the old man were just outside today gettin' her primed for the upcoming winter. Got the snowblower oiled up and the chains on the tires.
Posted October 29, 2016
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adaliabooks: Not the OP, but it's in the T & Cs here:
https://instantink.hpconnected.com/uk/en/terms
Section 3.

Here's the relevant bits:
"If Your printer is not connected to the Internet, then the Instant Ink-activated Cartridges will be disabled and You will not be able to use them to print; however, You will continue to be charged for the Service as described in Section 12."

and

"When Your Service is canceled for any reason, HP will remotely disable the Instant Ink Program Cartridges and You will no longer be able to use the Instant Ink Program Cartridges to print."

Though "While using the Service, You agree not to remove an Instant Ink-activated Cartridge from Your printer and replace it with a new cartridge until prompted by messaging on Your printer to do so or in the event Your print quality degrades." is pretty scary too...

So it's actually the ink rather than the printer they disable.. but same result really I suppose.
Thanks for info!

Just opened their TOS and read:" REMOTE MONITORING ... page counts, types of documents printed, initiated print jobs....You agree to ...not remove or disable the remote monitoring software on Your printer"

Yes, looks like HP took a trip downhill....

If you compare a high quality CISS to that, for example, HP current "Frequent printing plan":
£7.99/month - 300 pages per month included
Each additional 25 pages for just £1

With HP Instant Ink £96/year
With standard size cartridges £612/year
Yearly savings
£516"

£7.99/300 = £0.026 (per page)

I purchase Inktec bottles.
1 bottle (100ml) = ~5,000 pages, ~£5 in rouble equivalent - £ 0.001 per page or
1 liter bottle = 30,000 pages, ~£20
thats high quality pigment ink.

The CISS system cost £ 60.
No internet, no page limit, no extra software required.
4x£5 = £25 - for three years or ~18,000 pages - whatever comes first.

compare to £96*3 = £300 and 10,800 page limit, with requirement for 3 year remote control tunnel?!

savings, which freakin savings, HP?
Post edited October 29, 2016 by Lin545
Posted October 29, 2016
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tinyE: Shit!

We have a John Deere!

She's a beauty too. Me and the old man were just outside today gettin' her primed for the upcoming winter. Got the snowblower oiled up and the chains on the tires.
How old is it, though?
Posted October 29, 2016
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tinyE: Shit!

We have a John Deere!

She's a beauty too. Me and the old man were just outside today gettin' her primed for the upcoming winter. Got the snowblower oiled up and the chains on the tires.
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JudasIscariot: How old is it, though?
I'm guessing ten years. Last time I checked she didn't have any fancy electronics on it.
Posted October 29, 2016
I think ANNO 2070 and Tages DRM! And it's still on; still not removed!

Oh yeah; and,

UbiSoft's Uplay
Posted October 29, 2016
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JudasIscariot: How old is it, though?
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tinyE: I'm guessing ten years. Last time I checked she didn't have any fancy electronics on it.
Then you probably have nothing to worry about unless they somehow made all the nuts & bolts require special tools that can only be bought from John Deere :P
Posted October 29, 2016
Ubi is using Uplay plus Denuvo lately so yeah...
Posted October 29, 2016
When I installed The Witcher 3 which was suppose to be DRM free.
Posted October 29, 2016
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darthspudius: When I installed The Witcher 3 which was suppose to be DRM free.
But it wasn't somehow?
Posted October 29, 2016
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the_atm: DRM can be scary and comes in tons of flavors from online only connection to activation keys. But what is the scariest DRM you've ever seen?

Mine is my girlfriends printer. It's an HP and when she got it she got a subscription to the HP ink thing where they monitor your ink levels and send you ink when you need it and thus it didn't charge her often because she didn't use it often. One day she didn't have money her account and HP tried to take it's subscription, when it didn't get the money is SHUT HER PRINTER OFF! She couldn't use the printer at all, not to scan, not to print, not to do anything until she paid for her subscription. She didn't need ink, she had about half in all her catergeies but yeah...

Straight up scariest DRM I've seen. How about you guys?
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TStael: I have a certain difficulty in believing this story - because no reasonable commercial enterprise would behave in this way towards a mere individual.

Towards another corporation maybe - depending what was legally agreed between them, but biz-to-biz is not your concern, is it?

Frankly: DRM is here because of piracy in the first place.

This "girlfriend" example of yours is surely bogus, and you made this imaginary sufferer a "girlfriend" just to make such stupidity more acceptable.

In case you used a story an actual girlfriend of yours. whom told you about business-to-business practice that might be quite fair, I hope she will learn of this, and kick you to the curb, coz: that would be major disloyalty.
I did not downvote your post as many here obviously did,but you have a nasty f...ing habbit of defending big ass companies dont you?
Posted October 29, 2016
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RottenRotz: I did not downvote your post as many here obviously did,but you have a nasty f...ing habbit of defending big ass companies dont you?
Nah, just a troll, don't feed them!
Posted October 29, 2016
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teceem: So far I've read:
- A printer is DRM
- Steam is DRM
- Windows 10 is DRM
And that sounds as idiotic as:
- A tree is a bird
- A building is a person
- A bookcase is a book
- A keyboard is a key
Etc.
lol, a printer is not DRM, but this specific printer they have, when hooked up to the internet and when you subscribe to their service can be a DRM... not the printer, their service haha.
Posted October 30, 2016
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KingofGnG: Steam. It destroyed the PC market as far as my interests are concerned. And I experienced it first-hand with Half-Life 2...
There are worse things than Steam.
Posted October 30, 2016
Isn't the only DRM that HP have put lately in their printers, recently it released a firmware uodate that make that some printers not longer works with unofficial cartridges, also after the outcry of the users, it launched a second optional update to disable the DRM.

https://www.wired.com/2016/09/hp-printer-drm/
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