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Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

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All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
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They're also good about releasing complete editions that contain all or most of the the DLC associated with the title.

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What kind of complete edition is one that contains only most DLC?
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JohnnyDollar: snip

They're also good about releasing complete editions that contain all or most of the the DLC associated with the title.

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HypersomniacLive: What kind of complete edition is one that contains only most DLC?
Oblivion GOTY is one. Afaik, the GOTY edition does not contain all of the DLC. I assume this is the case with the retail boxed copy too. Where as digitally you have the GOTY and the GOTY deluxe, with the deluxe containing all of the DLC.
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JohnnyDollar: Oblivion GOTY is one. Afaik, the GOTY edition does not contain all of the DLC. I assume this is the case with the retail boxed copy too. Where as digitally you have the GOTY and the GOTY deluxe, with the deluxe containing all of the DLC.
GOTY and GOTY deluxe... where is this industry going?

... sigh...
Bethesda has no qualms engaging in shady business practices and screwing people over, if the rumours about surrounding its acquisition of Arkane Studios have any truth to them.
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JohnnyDollar: snip

They're also good about releasing complete editions that contain all or most of the the DLC associated with the title.

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HypersomniacLive: What kind of complete edition is one that contains only most DLC?
Don't know if it counts, but Borderlands 2 GOTY doesn't contain all the DLCs. Then again, it's called GOTY and not Complete, but whatever...
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Grargar: Don't know if it counts, but Borderlands 2 GOTY doesn't contain all the DLCs. Then again, it's called GOTY and not Complete, but whatever...
I wouldn't call an edition "Complete" if it didn't contain all related content ever created, nor can I understand the definition in such a case, that's why I asked, but it seems that GOTY and Complete are different editions.
But it is ridiculous to bring out a GOTY edition and then a GOTY Deluxe - what's next?
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HypersomniacLive: what's next?
GOTY Deluxe Turbo.
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Grargar: Don't know if it counts, but Borderlands 2 GOTY doesn't contain all the DLCs. Then again, it's called GOTY and not Complete, but whatever...
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HypersomniacLive: I wouldn't call an edition "Complete" if it didn't contain all related content ever created, nor can I understand the definition in such a case, that's why I asked, but it seems that GOTY and Complete are different editions.
But it is ridiculous to bring out a GOTY edition and then a GOTY Deluxe - what's next?
All of their "2nd editions" contain all of the dlc except for Oblivion GOTY, I think. I'm not 100% sure about that. I said complete because they use different names. Ultimate, GOTY, Legendary (edit: I forgot about Anniversary and Collectors editions). :P. What would you call them if you used one word?
Post edited January 06, 2014 by JohnnyDollar
super deluxe turbo champion edition anniversary collection.
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Grargar: GOTY Deluxe Turbo.
Yeah, Turbo, Max, Nitro Edition, what else? :P
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JohnnyDollar: All of their "2nd editions" contain all of the dlc except for Oblivion GOTY, I think. I'm not 100% sure about that. I said complete because they use different names. Ultimate, GOTY, Legendary (edit: I forgot about Anniversary and Collectors editions). :P. What would you call them if you used one word?
In my mind you can't use a single term to describe them all except maybe "special". but if there's a game that got a GOTY, Ultimate, Legendary, Anniversary and Collectors edition and none of them contain every single bit of content created for it, then the situation is beyond ridiculous.
I don't really follow this stuff, but is it a good sign when people that do are in the end "not 100%" sure what each edition contains or lose track of how many and what editions each game got?
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doady: Bethesda has no qualms engaging in shady business practices and screwing people over, if the rumours about surrounding its acquisition of Arkane Studios have any truth to them.
The key word there is "rumors".

Even if it's true, it seems that a lot of gamers don't know how this works (edit: I'm not saying that you don't, doady). That's not to say that I'm an expert on the industry, not by any means.

The publishers are the ones investing by providing the money to these developers to develop the games because the dev studios don't have the money. The publisher is acting as the bank giving a loan, and those loans have stipulations. And of course they handle packaging and distribution.

That's why crowd funding has become so popular. Studios are trying to make a game without the publisher putting these restrictions on them.
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JohnnyDollar: All of their "2nd editions" contain all of the dlc except for Oblivion GOTY, I think. I'm not 100% sure about that. I said complete because they use different names. Ultimate, GOTY, Legendary (edit: I forgot about Anniversary and Collectors editions). :P. What would you call them if you used one word?
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HypersomniacLive: In my mind you can't use a single term to describe them all except maybe "special". but if there's a game that got a GOTY, Ultimate, Legendary, Anniversary and Collectors edition and none of them contain every single bit of content created for it, then the situation is beyond ridiculous.
I don't really follow this stuff, but is it a good sign when people that do are in the end "not 100%" sure what each edition contains or lose track of how many and what editions each game got?
No, I wouldn't say it was a good sign. We only really need one GOTY version afaic. I don't follow it that much either. I only know that because I noticed a few years back that Steam sold 2 GOTY versions of Oblivion, with one being the deluxe.
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doady: Bethesda has no qualms engaging in shady business practices and screwing people over, if the rumours about surrounding its acquisition of Arkane Studios have any truth to them.
Have anyone ever wondered why any concept art released for Interplay's Fallout MMO was just generic post apocalyptic art that didn't utilize the Fallout IP at all?

Guess what, Interplay could not show anything concerning the Fallout IP unless Bethesda/Zenimax had first approved it and apparently they were very difficult to please.
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HypersomniacLive: What kind of complete edition is one that contains only most DLC?
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Grargar: Don't know if it counts, but Borderlands 2 GOTY doesn't contain all the DLCs. Then again, it's called GOTY and not Complete, but whatever...
Civilization V is even worse. Base game in 2010, GOTY in 2011, Gold in the beginning of 2013 which is incomplete because the second expansion Brave New World was released later...
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JohnnyDollar: The key word there is "rumors".
Another is sides. As in, two sides of the coin. We can always paint Bethesda/Zenimax as the devil that needs extermination. But, this might have been just a normal acquisition. Or perhaps, Zenimax might have saved them from mismanagement. Without any confirmation and only rumours, there is bound to be a bias in favour of "poor" Arkane and against "evil" Bethesda/Zenimax.
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innerring: Civilization V is even worse. Base game in 2010, GOTY in 2011, Gold in the beginning of 2013 which is incomplete because the second expansion Brave New World was released later...
I guess the final edition will be called Titanium.
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