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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted January 05, 2014
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Terpor: Here's something that has been happening on Twitter
https://twitter.com/Bethblog/status/418871493129302016

I really wish that Bethesda and GOG would join their forces and at least we could get the rest of the Fallout games here as well :)
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byondi: Glad to see that, according to some tweets there, they are prioritizing Steam but are not denying GOG.com distribution in the future.

"@Bethblog @Fallout ... and http://gog.com ?"

"Bethesda Softworks ‏@Bethblog 2 jan
@Theokritos our first priority is returning the content to Steam."
At this point we can only hope that Bethesda doesn't just use steam engines :P
Posted January 05, 2014
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BillyMaysFan59: At this point we can only hope that Bethesda doesn't just use steam engines :P
Sadly, looking at Skyrim, there's evidence that they'll do just that. :(
Posted January 06, 2014
I know I've spread a lot of negative feeling about on this thread, so I thought that maybe I should present something that'll bring people together a little bit.
And so, in that spirit, feel free to just throw out there what series from the past has ended up letting you down horribly in the present. Maybe this thread can serve to help people vent a little bit.
I'll start -
Fallout. (For obvious reasons.)
Castlevania. (PC version, at least. It's like the developers of that series have multiple personality syndrome. The ones for 3/DS/whatever actually look good at a glance.)
Final Fantasy. (This one started going to hell around 7 for me. 7 might as well be entitled "You think this one causes misgivings about the direction of the series? Well hang onto your shit, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet.)
Post edited January 06, 2014 by CarrionCrow
Posted January 06, 2014
Even if Bethesda never puts anything up here, and keeps the classics off that it can, perhaps we'll be seeing Wasteland 2 on Gog soon. That'd certainly scratch a certain itch, and probably be way better than Tactics.
Posted January 06, 2014
What happens if we already bought the games, will they be deleted from our libraries?
Posted January 06, 2014
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JonasJarlsoe: What happens if we already bought the games, will they be deleted from our libraries?
Nope. Still there.
Posted January 06, 2014
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JonasJarlsoe: What happens if we already bought the games, will they be deleted from our libraries?
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JMich: Nope. Still there.
Thanks for the quick answer.
I can see them in my library but i feared they would be deleted later. I am more relaxed now. Sad to see this legendary series removed from GOG, but i'm glad we will still be able download and play them if we already have them
Posted January 06, 2014
Bethesda goes more and more downhill. First they killed their own game serie, the elder scrolls, to make it a casual action game (see oblivion and especially skyrim) instead of the previous classic sandbox. And as a "bonus" they come with a MMO now. TES is doomed.
Then they killed id software, well, parent zenimax did it, as john carmack has left it.
Now they got the full rights of fallout and decide not to continue with GoG, but instead going for the quick cash and the drm of steam.
With that in mind i doubt that Morrowind, which is requested here and got 16743 votes, will ever be released here on GoG and same goes for the anthology package, any fallout game (including newer ones) and the games from id software. I also think that it's only a matter of time that doom will also be removed and Arx Fatalis from Arkane (which is also owned by zenimax)
Zenimax becomes more and more the new EA.
Posted January 06, 2014
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BillyMaysFan59: At this point we can only hope that Bethesda doesn't just use steam engines :P
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geminidomino: Sadly, looking at Skyrim, there's evidence that they'll do just that. :(
Well, at least Steam (from what I heard) is one of the less restrictive forms of DRM out there, so I guess it isn't the most horrible way to purchase games, but I don't like DRM at all, so I never bothered joining Steam. It does support Linux though...

And it does have Age of Empires 2 :-)

Even if I do join Steam, I'm still going to give most of my business to GOG with regards to game purchases. In fact, GOG would be my first choice
Post edited January 06, 2014 by BillyMaysFan59
Posted January 06, 2014
This is sad news indeed.
Posted January 06, 2014
It's a little sad, but at the same time companies have a right to decide where they want to sell their merchandise, plus we can still download it if we already got it. Which most Fallout fans probably did.

Compared to the newer games the fanbase of people who would still pay for these is smaller and therefore from a corporate perspective less important. Bethesda isn't looking to make another Fallout 2 (or any 2d Fallout). They want to make another New Vegas/Fallout 3. Which personally is fine with me, they were different than the first two, but I still enjoyed them overall. Fallout 3 was their first foray into the series which is always an iffy venture to begin with. New Vegas was closer to the old ones in feel, we'll just have to see what they do for 4.

People yelling about other titles from them being bad (Elder Scrolls Online) they're making it because people kept asking for/making mods for multiplayer elder scrolls. They did it and now the people asking for it are happy, but the people who wanted a longer, good single player experience are yelling their heads off about it. Bottom line is, corporations can't win with fandoms. Ever. Someone will always love the change and someone will always hate it.
Posted January 06, 2014
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Ti74Raven: It's a little sad, but at the same time companies have a right to decide where they want to sell their merchandise, plus we can still download it if we already got it. Which most Fallout fans probably did.

Compared to the newer games the fanbase of people who would still pay for these is smaller and therefore from a corporate perspective less important. Bethesda isn't looking to make another Fallout 2 (or any 2d Fallout). They want to make another New Vegas/Fallout 3. Which personally is fine with me, they were different than the first two, but I still enjoyed them overall. Fallout 3 was their first foray into the series which is always an iffy venture to begin with. New Vegas was closer to the old ones in feel, we'll just have to see what they do for 4.

People yelling about other titles from them being bad (Elder Scrolls Online) they're making it because people kept asking for/making mods for multiplayer elder scrolls. They did it and now the people asking for it are happy, but the people who wanted a longer, good single player experience are yelling their heads off about it. Bottom line is, corporations can't win with fandoms. Ever. Someone will always love the change and someone will always hate it.
You got to understand also that there is a group of people (usually those dedicated to the old versions) that are automatically biased against Bethesda anyway. They hate that Beth got the license in the first place, they hate the new games, etc. This is just another reason to attack them.
Posted January 06, 2014
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Ti74Raven: It's a little sad, but at the same time companies have a right to decide where they want to sell their merchandise, plus we can still download it if we already got it. Which most Fallout fans probably did.

Compared to the newer games the fanbase of people who would still pay for these is smaller and therefore from a corporate perspective less important. Bethesda isn't looking to make another Fallout 2 (or any 2d Fallout). They want to make another New Vegas/Fallout 3. Which personally is fine with me, they were different than the first two, but I still enjoyed them overall. Fallout 3 was their first foray into the series which is always an iffy venture to begin with. New Vegas was closer to the old ones in feel, we'll just have to see what they do for 4.

People yelling about other titles from them being bad (Elder Scrolls Online) they're making it because people kept asking for/making mods for multiplayer elder scrolls. They did it and now the people asking for it are happy, but the people who wanted a longer, good single player experience are yelling their heads off about it. Bottom line is, corporations can't win with fandoms. Ever. Someone will always love the change and someone will always hate it.
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synfresh: You got to understand also that there is a group of people (usually those dedicated to the old versions) that are automatically biased against Bethesda anyway. They hate that Beth got the license in the first place, they hate the new games, etc. This is just another reason to attack them.
Indeed, I know that too. I was just trying to avoid creating a flame war because mentioning things like that usually puts them on the defensive.

I just would prefer Fallout not get what I refer to as WoW Syndrome. After 6 and a half years of WoW I finally quit because to me it wasn't WoW anymore...it had been yanked back and forth between the various camps and classes of people throwing fits about this and that, first one way, then back the other but still with minor changes, then back the other way, again leaving some changes.

That happened for years and in the end it was the game that suffered. It became a muddled mass of fan suggestions rather than what the developer originally wanted. It's easy, dumbed down, and simplified almost to the point of automation because Blizzard tried it's best to please everyone, rather than realizing they can't and just taking it the direction they started in.

I would rather not see Fallout fall into the same abyss.
Post edited January 06, 2014 by Ti74Raven
Posted January 06, 2014
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Ti74Raven: Fallout 3 was their first foray into the series which is always an iffy venture to begin with. New Vegas was closer to the old ones in feel, we'll just have to see what they do for 4.
New Vegas was closer to the original Fallouts (and simply a better game than FO3) because it wasn't done by Bethesda but by Obsidian (where several ex-Black Isle employees work now).
I have little hope that Bethesda will ever be able to make a proper Fallout game. Or a "not proper Fallout game but decent post-apocalyptic RPG" for that matter, unless they stop their trend of terrible, cringeworthy writing and bad design of core game mechanics that plagued every game they made at least since Oblivion.

But yeah, admittedly you're right about "can't please everybody". Garbage like FO3 or Oblivion sells millions of copies, so obviously there are more than enough people who have an opinion on that matter completely different from my own, i.e. "bad taste". ;P
Can't really blame Bethesda for trying to cater that market, though.
Post edited January 06, 2014 by Ewu
Posted January 06, 2014
You can do worse than Bethesda.

They do have some positives the way I see it. They're good to release tools for the PC community to use to mod their games. That's a plus. They're also good about releasing complete editions that contain all or most of the the DLC associated with the title. Those are good things, and you can't say the same about all publishers.

The negatives that I see with Bethesda are that I think that they use a lousy game engine and I also believe that their titles are overrated. The second one is subjective, but the first one isn't imo, though you could still debate it. At least the config files are tweakable and easily accessible in my experience, but I still think the engine is lousy.
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