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Supraland is now available DRM-free. Get it 33% off until July 16th, 6pm UTC. Demo of the game is also available.

Supraland is a First-Person Metroidvania Puzzle game. The main sources of inspiration are Zelda, Metroid and Portal. Explore, find secret upgrades, solve puzzles, beat up monsters, find new abilities that help you reach new places.
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pyatak: Downloads count is misleading as some use automated scripts like lgogdownloader
Is it downloading all builds for every OS by default?
Storage may be cheap but I still would only download the ones I'm interested in.
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PasteurisedChrome: @MarkoH01

Thanks for the clarification on the offline installers.

Yes, Galaxy certainly is optional, but it forces GOG into a 2 tier service, because of the delay in producing the offline installers. Like the NHS, GOG doesn't seem to work on the weekend either. ;)
You should not forget that without Galaxy the general update (only offline installer) would probably arrive much later because the devs could not upload the updates themselves. One reason why GOG invented Galaxy is to help devs update their game. They always made the offline installers manually but in pre Galaxy days they even had to wait longer for the files to make them.

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PasteurisedChrome: When I played the Gwent beta last year (Galaxy being compulsory for that),
Yes, GWENT MP is the only game that actually requires Galaxy to be played at all, that's true (one reason why they invented Thronebreaker SP afterwards which does not require Galaxy). However I wopuld hardly say that GOG is forcing people to use Galaxy because one game (yes, I know that some few games also require Galaxy for MP but those were at least playable in SP mode).

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PasteurisedChrome: it was interesting to note, that my wife's offline installers and my own installers (separate Windows accounts, but installed on a common games partition) were ALL picked up by Galaxy, even though they were supposed to be 'offline'.
They are offline but whenever you install or start Galaxy it automatically searches the specified games folder (which you can change in Galaxy settings) to see if it finds any GOG games. Galaxy does not need to be online to do this at all - and the games don't need to be online for this as well.

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PasteurisedChrome: What the 'phone home' made of that, I have no idea, but the point is, it's an intrusive, nosy, and annoying piece of DRM, and ....uninstalled now anyway for a long time since. :)
Which is your right to do but it still isn't DRM at all. You don't NEED it for your games to be played (with GWENT being the exception) so it is no DRM (again - with GWENT being the exception there's no argueing about the fact that GWENT is DRM'd).

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PasteurisedChrome: The dev said the game would be kept up to date on GOG, and that's ALL that quote said. He didn't say how long that process would take. Maybe he might answer that ambiguity, or we'll just see what happens in practice.
You forget the thing I tried to answer with that quote which was:

"The only thing that prevents me from buying your game is support. It would not be the first game on GOG that is abandoned "only for Gog version". And the warning on the game page does not help much either."

My quote only referred to the fact that the game won't get abandoned - or that this at least is not intended. I never said or wanted to say anything about the update speed but this also never was the question as well.
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MarkoH01: My quote only referred to the fact that the game won't get abandoned - or that this at least is not intended. I never said or wanted to say anything about the update speed but this also never was the question as well.
Yeah, I know, but don't know why you feel the need to point it out. Who cares who referenced the quote?

As I said in my OP, the (politicians) quote by the dev doesn't say anything about 'when'. That's what I'd like to see clarified.
Post edited July 12, 2019 by PasteurisedChrome
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pyatak: Downloads count is misleading as some use automated scripts like lgogdownloader to backup their entire collection.
I think GOG should implement «Preferred Platform» parameter in user settings or something.
lgogdownloader is fine, it's using user agent that mentions Linux. GOG use that. And like @Sir_Kill_A_Lot, they also can easily see which version was downloaded regardless of the client used. In the majority of cases, people download only one.
Post edited July 12, 2019 by shmerl
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PasteurisedChrome: Yeah, I know, but don't know why you feel the need to point it out. Who cares who referenced the quote?
I do since this is the way a discussion is working. Somebody asks something and you reply or quote something to reply to the question. You complained about my quote saying "That doesn't exactly say much at all. " while in fact it answered the question and never wanted to do more.
Post edited July 12, 2019 by MarkoH01
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PasteurisedChrome: Yeah, I know, but don't know why you feel the need to point it out. Who cares who referenced the quote?
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MarkoH01: I do since this is the way a discussion is working. Somebody asks something and you reply or quote something to reply to the question. You complained about my quote saying "That doesn't exactly say much at all. " while in fact it answered the question and never wanted to do more.
I think a child of 5 would understand the context here. I'm amazed that you obviously do not!

What on earth, makes you think I was complaining about 'your' quote, when you didn't make it?

I was referring to what the 'dev' said in his quote. Are you the dev? No. You just posted his quote by way of an attachment.

How much more simpler can it be?! Geez...
Post edited July 12, 2019 by PasteurisedChrome
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MarkoH01: I do since this is the way a discussion is working. Somebody asks something and you reply or quote something to reply to the question. You complained about my quote saying "That doesn't exactly say much at all. " while in fact it answered the question and never wanted to do more.
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PasteurisedChrome: I think a child of 5 would understand the context here. I'm amazed that you obviously do not!

What on earth, makes you think I was complaining about 'your' quote, when you didn't make it?

I was referring to what the 'dev' said in his quote. Are you the dev? No. You just posted his quote by way of an attachment.

How much more simpler can it be?! Geez...
Yeah, whatever.
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Sir_Kill_A_Lot: Is it downloading all builds for every OS by default?
I don't use it myself so i'm not sure about current defaults.
But i know people who use it and some other tools to do full backups of their GOG collections.
I would suspect people downloading all their games for all platforms are a small minority (be it via scripts or manually) and platform specific statistics would be a good idea for devs to have.
Supraland 2 successfully funded:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supragames/supraland-2
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Sir_Kill_A_Lot: I would suspect people downloading all their games for all platforms are a small minority (be it via scripts or manually) and platform specific statistics would be a good idea for devs to have.
Yes, I also think most download only for their usual OS. lgogdownloader shows Linux in the user agent anyway, so GOG can use that as well.
Post edited July 14, 2019 by shmerl
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Sir_Kill_A_Lot: I would suspect people downloading all their games for all platforms are a small minority (be it via scripts or manually) and platform specific statistics would be a good idea for devs to have.
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shmerl: Yes, I also think most download only for their usual OS. lgogdownloader shows Linux in the user agent anyway, so GOG can use that as well.
Also why would downloads matter, rather than purchases?
I often download both Windows and Linux, I wish lgogdownloader would support and option to download the Linux version if it exists, Windows otherwise. Guess I should file a feature request...
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hollunder: Also why would downloads matter, rather than purchases?
Because purchase applies to all versions. So after you bought something, it's not yet clear what your intention is. But if you download a specific version, that indicates it a lot more clearly.

That's my view on this, I really have no idea what GOG think about it. And apparently, developers can't see that data anyway, which is bad.
Post edited July 14, 2019 by shmerl
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hollunder: Also why would downloads matter, rather than purchases?
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shmerl: Because purchase applies to all versions. So after you bought something, it's not yet clear what your intention is. But if you download a specific version, that indicates it a lot more clearly.

That's my view on this, I really have no idea what GOG think about it. And apparently, developers can't see that data anyway, which is bad.
I was under the impression that GOG checks the OS the purchase was made with, but I really don't know. I totally agree that devs should get that kind of analytics data.
Nice - game looks dope.