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Embark on a unique and unforgettable journey and guide the main heroine through her Gliding; a rite of passage that will take her across vast deserts and mesmerizing landscapes. Sable is now available on GOG.COM!

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groze: The Hitman issue is fear mongering, slippery slope logical fallacies ("oh, if this happens once, it will happen more and more!") and I have no patience for that. GOG, despite all the stuff some people keep accusing them of, still leaves these forums up (I would have deleted them a LONG while ago, so be glad the people at GOG still care about what the few folks in here have to say) and lets people voice their complaints, which is a good sign, but apparently all people care about are the *iMpEnDiNg DoOm* signs, like the little gatekeepers they tend to be. Also, feel free to discuss your "fears" in the appropriate thread(s), but let other people discuss actual games without having to deal with your drama over digital toys.

Anyway, as for Sable, I actually ended up uninstalling it, because it was beginning to get on my nerves just how unoptimized it is. To be fair, my PC is nothing to write home about, and that probably has a lot of influence in the performance of the game (I have a Huawei Matebook D14 with an AMD Ryzen 5 3500u with Vega 8 graphics, 8 GB RAM and a 500 GB SSD), but it still baffles me that I could play games like Wicther 3, Tomb Raider (2013) and Psychonauts 2 without any issue, and I keep having stuttering and all kinds of bugs with a game that could run, by the looks of it, on my old laptop with its 1 GB VRAM GPU. I don't want to be unfair, here, because maybe these are all personal issues, as the game itself seems to be awesome, but I just can't play it anymore in its current state (I spent 6 hours in it, so far). It's your typical Zelda fare, down to hide and seek quests (which I didn't particularly enjoy in the Zelda games, so I didn't enjoy them in Sable, either). I guess they took what they liked from Breath of the Wild -- a game I don't particularly enjoy, mind you -- and wrapped it all under a Jean Giraud/Moebius coat of paint. You climb a lot of surfaces, drive your hoverbike through a vast desert landscape and explore ruins, settlements and meet people from different walks of life, which is cool. I don't know what people call this kind of narrative, these days, they used to call it "emergent narrative" back when talking about it was a thing, and it's not my cup of tea, but if it's yours, that's the kind of narrative Sable has, and it's well done, within that specific subgenre. It's an exploration game, you are given no grandiose goal, other than to chill, drive around and basically find out who *you* are or want to be. I will go back to it once the devs have put out some patches, for sure, but as of this moment I think it's better if I focus on other (working) games I need to finish, like Eastward.
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Truth007: congrats on shilling for gog and being a fanboy. this is why gog is doing bad financially and will continue to put games with drm on the store.
You just proved his point. Congrats.
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Truth007: congrats on shilling for gog and being a fanboy. this is why gog is doing bad financially and will continue to put games with drm on the store.
Funny. Want to know who I shill for? 2-person indie dev studios who put their games, 100% DRM-free, on GOG and have to deal with demented angry hedonistic mobs "fighting for their rights" in threads that have nothing to do with that.

If you have a beef with GOG, take it up with GOG. Flood their mailboxes, create forum threads about it, argue about it in the existing threads. That's up to you, I'm not going to get mad at that, it's your prerogative. What has Sable got to do with that, though? Two people worked for years in this game, they lost countless sleepless nights, probably had to mortgage property to get their passion project out. And this is how you show respect for their work? Don't worry, whenever a game has some semblance of DRM, the angry mob will jump on it immediately, there's no need to raid threads pretending to be genuinely concerned about whether "this game has DRM? Because now we never know!", when we're all very much aware of your loaded begging-the-question questions and your circular fallacious arguments. If Sable had any sort of DRM, you would already know, because the usual people would have already jumped on it.

This is the last post I'm going to make on the subject. I want to apologize to SmollestLight, who is one of the nicest people I've ever known, and the one who has to deal with all of this BS. Sorry for contributing to this, I guess I bit the bait, this time. Won't happen again, so feel free to insult me, because I'll just ignore everything non-Sable related, from now on.
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groze: The Hitman issue is fear mongering, slippery slope logical fallacies ("oh, if this happens once, it will happen more and more!") and I have no patience for that. GOG, despite all the stuff some people keep accusing them of, still leaves these forums up (I would have deleted them a LONG while ago, so be glad the people at GOG still care about what the few folks in here have to say) and lets people voice their complaints, which is a good sign, but apparently all people care about are the *iMpEnDiNg DoOm* signs, like the little gatekeepers they tend to be. Also, feel free to discuss your "fears" in the appropriate thread(s), but let other people discuss actual games without having to deal with your drama over digital toys.
For what it is worth, I hope you're right and that we're wrong.

If there was a rich drm-free ecosystem, we probably would care less about a single store, but we don't have tons of options.

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groze: Funny. Want to know who I shill for? 2-person indie dev studios who put their games, 100% DRM-free, on GOG and have to deal with demented angry hedonistic mobs "fighting for their rights" in threads that have nothing to do with that.
I agree that indie devs should not have to suffer because of the decisions GOG makes. That's about 35% of the reason I'm not doing the boycott.

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groze: If you have a beef with GOG, take it up with GOG. Flood their mailboxes, create forum threads about it, argue about it in the existing threads. That's up to you, I'm not going to get mad at that, it's your prerogative. What has Sable got to do with that, though? Two people worked for years in this game, they lost countless sleepless nights, probably had to mortgage property to get their passion project out. And this is how you show respect for their work? Don't worry, whenever a game has some semblance of DRM, the angry mob will jump on it immediately, there's no need to raid threads pretending to be genuinely concerned about whether "this game has DRM? Because now we never know!", when we're all very much aware of your loaded begging-the-question questions and your circular fallacious arguments. If Sable had any sort of DRM, you would already know, because the usual people would have already jumped on it.
I don't know. Some AAA games have tons of visibility and will get picked on quickly. Other indie titles... they can go for quite some time without anyone noticing anything (quite a few of them go on for several weeks without a single review). For example, when I saw that Guild of Darksteel had zero activity, I got the game, played it and wrote a review, because I felt the game seemed like it deserved at least 1 review.

Anyways, this thread about Sable like you said and to celebrate the work of some hard-working indie devs.

Thank you for confirming that the game is drm-free.
Post edited September 26, 2021 by Magnitus
The forum makes the store look so bad I would close it if I were GOG, agreed.
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victorchopin: so it's like a love letter to mr. Moebius and such? Good looking game.

And yet I wonder how many non-frenchies will pronounce Sable. He he
The Russian store page says Сэйбл.
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victorchopin: so it's like a love letter to mr. Moebius and such? Good looking game.

And yet I wonder how many non-frenchies will pronounce Sable. He he
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Dogmaus: The Russian store page says Сэйбл.
Hmm so like Fable with an "s" eh.
Curious. I thought the sandy-esque nature of the game was an instant "sand in french" but nope... ;P
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I suspect it was thought to be English by the Russian translators. According to Wiktionary it can be read as /ˈseɪbɫ/ in English which in turn does go translitirated like that. Does it make sense to do this way? By the word's meaning, I don't think so, it could be better to not translitirate it, leave the title as is. Otherwise it can get tricky to find unless knowing beforehand if it was translitirated, translated, made up in a new way or untouched.

In my opinion, some French word reading makes far more sense in the context and by the meaning ("Sand"), I think it should be spelt as /'sɑɔ̯bl/ or something like that then. Though, the only definite answer can be given by the devs, anything else is rather guessing.

Pick what you like, I will say.
Post edited September 27, 2021 by liara42
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liara42: In my opinion, some French word reading makes far more sense in the context and by the meaning ("Sand"), I think it should be spelt as /'sɑɔ̯bl/ or something like that then. Though, the only definite answer can be given by the devs, anything else is rather guessing.
I think this explanation is very accurate :)
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liara42: I suspect it was thought to be English by the Russian translators. According to Wiktionary it can be read as /ˈseɪbɫ/ in English which in turn does go translitirated like that. Does it make sense to do this way? By the word's meaning, I don't think so, it could be better to not translitirate it, leave the title as is. Otherwise it can get tricky to find unless knowing beforehand if it was translitirated, translated, made up in a new way or untouched.

In my opinion, some French word reading makes far more sense in the context and by the meaning ("Sand"), I think it should be spelt as /'sɑɔ̯bl/ or something like that then. Though, the only definite answer can be given by the devs, anything else is rather guessing.

Pick what you like, I will say.
Pretty much!! I mean, ouch, couldn't have said it better! Props, amigo!
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liara42: In my opinion, some French word reading makes far more sense in the context and by the meaning ("Sand"), I think it should be spelt as /'sɑɔ̯bl/ or something like that then. Though, the only definite answer can be given by the devs, anything else is rather guessing.
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KillingMoon: I think this explanation is very accurate :)
Oh yep!
Post edited September 27, 2021 by victorchopin
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Dogmaus: The Russian store page says Сэйбл.
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victorchopin: Hmm so like Fable with an "s" eh.
Curious. I thought the sandy-esque nature of the game was an instant "sand in french" but nope... ;P
more like reading seibl in Italian i think XD
/ˈfeɪbəl/ vs /ˈСeɪbl/
Post edited September 27, 2021 by Dogmaus
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victorchopin: Hmm so like Fable with an "s" eh.
Curious. I thought the sandy-esque nature of the game was an instant "sand in french" but nope... ;P
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Dogmaus: more like reading seibl in Italian i think XD
/ˈfeɪbəl/ vs /ˈСeɪbl/
Davvero! ;P