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With this game, you’ll get to experience an unforgettable adventure, set in an open-world visual novel that combines adventure and storytelling seamlessly. You’ll play as a child spending summer in a quaint village with your parents, as you explore and uncover hidden secrets. Along the way, you'll meet captivating characters with distinct personalities and stories. By helping them, you'll make friends and solve problems, revealing the mysteries of the surrounding environment.

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I honestly dislike those AI generated portraits.
They're not even in a coherent style.
Post edited November 16, 2023 by NuffCatnip
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NuffCatnip: I honestly dislike those AI generated portraits.
They're not even in a coherent style.
They do look terrible, and somewhat creepy.
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NuffCatnip: I honestly dislike those AI generated portraits.
They're not even in a coherent style.
Very much doubt theyre ai generated.
Its cool that GOG accepts games done with AI. Being open to experiment is important if we wanna argue that games are art. But the involvement of AI can make things kinda look generic and cheap. AI has this fingerprint of making things look either too anime or too plastic, something that some people on here have pointed out. One of the more famous indie games this year was almost entirely done with AI art, and people on steam don't care because its a popular game, goes to show that it has a place in the industry.

On the other hand you can make pixelart out of those portraits through AI. Just redo them in pixelart style via AI and then draw over them in a way you would like to see so the pixels are coherent and cohesive and the portraits look alike. That way there are no issues with any of the graphics and fit the rest of the art and nobody would care since you edited the art greatly that it has vastly more human involvement and consideration. Can be easily patched in if the devs just wanna exchange the art.

Same goes with programming. AI is really bad at making stuff as long as theres no human oversight. But honestly it can be a fairly versatile tool the more I read about it.

I would buy this game, its cheap and seems fun but I don't like too much discrepancies in art styles.
Post edited November 17, 2023 by Dray2k
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NuffCatnip: I honestly dislike those AI generated portraits.
They're not even in a coherent style.
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Sachys: Very much doubt theyre ai generated.
I very much doubt you've (knowingly) looked at much AI-generated art. =P
The images for the characters really clashes with the game's art style.
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Sachys: Very much doubt theyre ai generated.
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HunchBluntley: I very much doubt you've (knowingly) looked at much AI-generated art. =P
AI cant design shit.
Will be unhappy to be proven wrong though as it means less jobs for people, more money for fuggwits with no ideas of their own.
You know, I don't how GOG runs things but, If anyone developing/publishing titles were to be found using AI generated assets/contents beyond boring crap such as insufferably dull testing after adding a single file to check for regressions, I'd kick them right the [expletive here] out, and tell them to come back if/when they respect art and humanity as a whole.
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HunchBluntley: I very much doubt you've (knowingly) looked at much AI-generated art. =P
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Sachys: AI cant design shit.
Will be unhappy to be proven wrong though as it means less jobs for people, more money for fuggwits with no ideas of their own.
Pretty sure I saw a while back that the dev explicitly stated that they use AI for both art and scripting.

Also, those portrait absolutely do look very very very much like they're AI generated.

Also, are you saying that you think these portrait are not AI generated because they're... too well made/designed? Because, well, I guess there's no accounting for individual taste as far as good/bad goes, but technically they're not that different from a lot of other AI art, so current AI can absolutely make things that match these.
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Dray2k: Its cool that GOG accepts games done with AI. Being open to experiment is important if we wanna argue that games are art.
If we wanna argue that games are art (they are, or at the very least at least can sometimes be), one of the requirements would be to have an artist. Which AI isn't. It's all stolen smooshed and mixed art.

I'm fine with games using AI art for small indie single-dev projects, which are free. But if the dev expects to get paid for their work on the game, the people who created the art should get paid too, not ignored since all their work went into some amalgam uncredited "training data" for the automated pixel monkey. You wanna get paid, then pay your artists. The game stopped being a personal hobby project once you sell it.
Post edited November 17, 2023 by YaronDav
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YaronDav: -snip-
If Jeff Vogel, Steve Moraff, Christian Boutin, and countless other shareware developers were happy to painstakingly make pixel art for 100s of monsters with nothing but a copy of PCPaint (if even that), then I think the solo indie dev can take the time to make some basic 16 by 16 sprites, even on a free project. Daniel Remar, Hempuli, pixel, and several indie/FOSS devs (The entire KDE team, for example) released their work for free, even after painstaking design!

If the solo dev doesn't feel like they can? Hire an artist or downscale the scope.

As for the matter of the art being AI designed, there's a few giveaways. The unnatural sheen on hair, is a good one. Oversaturated eyes are another classic.
Post edited November 20, 2023 by Darvond
In the "coming soon" thread, the developer said that it was prototyped with AI art, but then redrawn by an artist. He added a before-and-after pair.

However, it's still left the game with the side effects of having an AI as art director, possibly because the developer said that he told the artist to copy some details that the developer liked. Instead of having a consistent style, instead of having consistency in the basic decisions such as how characters look at the camera, and which direction the sunlight falls on the character portraits, they're all over the place. Kids are drawn with their eyes level with the viewer, but the adult lady with blue flowers has the top of her head under the level of the viewer's eyes. It's a mess.
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NuffCatnip: I honestly dislike those AI generated portraits.
They're not even in a coherent style.
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Sachys: Very much doubt theyre ai generated.
You are getting very far behind. NOt only is this AI generated art, it is not even good AI art...

Midjourey, which is a specific art generation A,I has been active and in use for a couple of years now, it is quite powerful, though perhaps a little limited, which works on text prompts - https://www.midjourneyai.ai/

The strongest, most versatile, art AI at the moment is probably some of the ChatGPT art extensions, as they can plug into much more than MIdjourney can.

I like music, and there has been a lot of use of AI with making music videos lately. Some are just fans putting AI images to music. For example, one I like is a version of Black Sabbath's Warpigs with each line of lyrics generated as an image by Midjourney - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_HEdDFGfhI.

Something completely different is the heavy metal band Froztbite Orckings. This band is completely artifical. Not only is the characters and the images AI generated, but the music, the vocals and the lyrics as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaJCt2GpVc

edit - just for fun, i just made these images in Midjourney. Took me less than a minute each :)

https://ibb.co/RjW55Ph
https://ibb.co/ZxWF4zz
https://ibb.co/HYrZgLQ
Post edited November 17, 2023 by amok
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amok: Something completely different is the heavy metal band Froztbite Orckings. This band is completely artifical. Not only is the characters and the images AI generaed, but the music, the vocals and the lyrics as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaJCt2GpVc
Thanks for mentioning that project! Will keep an eye out for it in the future. :)
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YaronDav: If we wanna argue that games are art (they are, or at the very least at least can sometimes be), one of the requirements would be to have an artist. Which AI isn't. It's all stolen smooshed and mixed art.
This was my point - pixel art aside it all looks too clean in the screenshots. Still, I suppose even someone lazy enough to use AI could have bothered to clean it up.
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amok:
Thanks.
Yeah those straight up look like theyre not generated but using stolen assets (not saying you yourself did that).
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octalot: It's a mess.
Uff! :/
Post edited November 17, 2023 by Sachys