I think there is a major difference hentai and gacha games: One inherently exists to exploit people, the other doesn't. It is fair to be offput by wallet eaters and their impact upon the health of society.

One word: "self-restraint".

"Wallet eaters" have no impact on society, if society keeps itself in rein.
Some people can not or don't want to restrain themselves?

Well, that's too bad for them, but we as a society can't always protect others from damaging themselves.
Look at how many smokers there are, or alcoholics, or obese people.

And yet, we as a society, don't forbid tobacco, alcohol or fast food.

Free will. Nobody ever claimed it was without flaws.

There is an important difference: You have to physically consume the article. No matter how many times you pull a gacha, no actual physical resource is sacrificed. There is no good reason to attach real-world money to the lootbox, because neither player nor provider are required by nature to lose something.

Further, loot crates solely exist to take money in an unfair exchange. Should the game the gacha is attached to disappear, so goes the "reward" of whatever you were pulling for.

Bluntly, I am of the mind that paid gacha shouldn't exist. People should be able to engage in nearly any vice they wish, but they shouldn't be exploited for enjoying themselves.

Physical article as in "money"?

Either I don't understand what exactly you want to express here, or you are making the case for both sides.

What is it now: there is no money lost by playing gacha, or all the money you invested is lost, when the game, the gacha is attached to, disappears?


Says who? You?

I (as someone who never paid a single cent for anything loosely resembling a loot box) can instantly give you two reasons against your statements:

1) The provider wants to earn money (that's his reason to attach money to loot boxes).
2) The player expects some (more or less useful) reward in exchange for his money (his reason to attach money).

And since the player is aware upfront, that he may not get the "Mega-Hyper-Super" gun he may be hoping for, the exchange is not unfair...because the player is still getting something in return for his money.

Yeah, good luck telling that the tobacco industry, the alcohol industry, the fast food industry, the porn industry, the leisure industry,...oh, and not to mention: all the people whose lives you want to affect against their will.

Ever heard of the motto: "Live and let live"?

Here are some more:
"Buy (or don't) and let buy"
"Gamble (or don't), and let gamble"
"Smoke (or don't), and let smoke".
Etc., etc.

Go on smutr.com and watch the "unrated DLC" for Detective Girl of the Steam City. The text explicitly describes rape, and as the story "evolves", the girl comes to the realization that rape is empowering because you can get all kinds of cool things by letting guys rape you.

Anyone who doesn't find that disgusting and offensive in the extreme is sick in mind and spirit, IMO. And to make it worse, GOG pretends it isn't AO because the offensive content is offered as an "unrated DLC". Which shows very clearly just how low GOG has sunk.
Funny you should say that, because it's the exact opposite of what you do when it comes to politics.

Try the Japanese. I mean, if you're ready to demonize the entire country, go for it. Most Japanese people don't care about any of this as long as it is censored. Yes, it is presented without mosaics in the west, but in Japan all of the products are censored as is common with polite Japanese society. They don't care what happens to the cartoons, as long as it is censored. The female host for DLSite even thought it was kinda funny. The Japanese don't take this shit seriously. At all. The west is far too high strung and doesn't understand how the Japanese look at it. Your personal beliefs are fine, but this is another country and from the Hentai Live Expo 2022 Stream, you can see a much different and even silly attitude towards these cartoon games.

Okay, so first of all the "3D Porn Poser" games you are talking about are pretty good. The devs make thousands a month, because they work their asses off in Blender and other programs. These guys have five or six computers going at the same time rendering images constantly. The amount of computing power needed for these is unreal. Being A DIK for example is a pretty deep and funny visual novel. It takes a lot from 90's teenage movies like American Pie, which is what the developer wanted to do. It has sex, but it also has memorable characters and scenarios. They have to do a hazing event that you take part in, some of it is sex and some just regular college hijinx. It really feels like you're in a 90's teen film. There are way too many moments where I'm laughing my ass of, or I'm saddened by the truth behind some of the characters. With Being A DIK, sex scenes really only count for 10% of the game and even Dr Pink Cake stated that it wasn't meant to be just a sex game. Again, it's like a 90's American teen movie. It reminds me of the good old days in this country where we could have this kind of stuff and everything wasn't so damn political. It even makes fun of feminism with the Gender Studies class where you have to talk with all these future cat ladies and remember the things they said. "How many cats do I have?" "What kind of soda do I drink everyday?" "What is the name of my invisible boyfriend?" Yep, it goes there. I think the game was made by a Canadian who just loves classic American culture and likes to poke fun at the current state of it. There's no LGBT shit in it either, except in a silly manner. It's not woke at all. Very surprising to see, which is why it will continue to get my money. That's for damn sure.

Just going to say there' s a reason why that guy makes 15k a month and quit his day job to do this stuff full time.

Everyone is going to have their own idea or feeling in regards to curation and where that line should be drawn. Clearly, there's some titles you don't think should be here and others that have been refused by GOG that you think should be here. Ultimately, it's up to GOG to make those decisions, and GOG will do what they feel is best for them and what's making them money.

I'd recommend that you just ignore the titles that you don't like and leave it at that. GOG needs to expand and diversify it's catalogue and opening curation to adult titles was a good way to do that.

Again, curation isn't something that is clearly defined and where the line should be drawn is different for everyone. GOG is a business in the end and they need to make money on the games that they sell here. Diversifying and expanding their catalogue helps them do that.

It's totally fine if you don't like something, because there's plenty of things that get released on GOG that I'm not interested in at all, and for those games I just ignore them. Aren't you and others capable of doing that also?

When you guys come into these release threads and attack them you do understand that you just galvanize the people who're actually into these games, right? You bring attention to them and ultimately help them in end, and in the process of doing that you make yourselves look intolerant, because anything you don't like shouldn't exist here.

Just open your mind a little bit, because intolerance is a horrible trait for any of us to have. That's not to say that light curation shouldn't still be a thing, but if you really look at the games releasing here you'd see no issue with quality RPG Maker games and good visual novels being a part of what's being released.

Like I said, in one of my earlier posts, don't sleep on some of these JRPGs, because while they may be adult games at their core with the unrated DLC's, you can still have an incredibly fun time with them. The same goes for some of the visual novels that release here.

Also, would you like to share with us all the RPG Maker games or the 3D rendered visual novels you've created? You seem to be an expert on the development of these kinds of works from your claims of them being low effort and cash grabs. If you genuinely think that, then you should actually try creating something yourself.

Agreed @TomNuke. I've talked with the devs of some of these. As I keep mentioning, Future Fragments is gonna be here and the demo is a lot of fun. It will even have a SFW mode. I really think people are going to like that game, just because of how well designed it is and how much work went into it. This is one that could bridge the gap between adult games and mainstream games because it handles the gameplay so well. Especially if you like Mega Man, Metroid and Contra.

I spoke with the dev on their Discord and mentioned that I didn't like the stun feature, because you have to wiggle the control stick a lot to get out of a stun. He said he was just gonna make it a button press in the full version and it would be disabled in SFW mode. So far, this is the best adult game I've played here in the west. So I'm excited for the final. I'd even play the SFW mode because it won't affect the story.

The same people will get upset and say "ewww, she's getting raped by robots" but that's just part of the genre. You just get used to it after awhile and it becomes silly. The same way the Japanese see it. But again, the game is made so that you can turn off the sex content too. So it works as a regular game. It's not really a Mega Man clone, because every stage has it's own mechanics. The demo throws you into the electric stage, where the mechanic is gravity control switches, so you have to manage your jumps properly in order to navigate the area, since some things can only be reached from being on the ceiling. Some of the movements are precision based, you have to a certain switch at the right time, the very second and then jump immediately after to get through the game's puzzles. Maybe a good description is Iconoclasts with sex? It's not far from that.

But yes, many of these devs are cool people, generally. They're not assholes and they appreciate fans and are willing to listen to their critique and criticisms. You can' t say that for too many AAA devs and companies. I feel like I'm heard with these indie adult devs and companies, compared to being shoved off by the big guys who would never dabble in adult games. That's a good feeling and I'm gonna support those people.

And yes, many WOMEN know what the game is about and gave their voices to the characters. Of their own volition. There is a lot of VA in the game, even in the demo, and the women, western women this time around, understood the concept of the game and are not offended at all by the fictional character getting raped. Because they know it isn't real. They have their voices in hundreds of lines for this game. Same with Shady Lewd Kart.

Why are all of you men being offended on behalf of women? Obviously the women don't seem to mind this stuff at all. If they did, they certainly wouldn't voice hundreds of lines in the game. Just saying.

Nope. It isn't.
My stance is that everyone has free will.
My stance is, that it's up to everyone to decide in what ways they use this free will.
As long as whatever someone decides to do is legal - I have no right to keep them from doing it.
And neither do you (or anybody else).

My personal beliefs and/or opinions are irrelevant in that matter.
And so are yours (and everybody else's).

Your stance however seem to be:

I know better than all others, so I should decide what everybody is allowed, or not allowed, to do with their money, their time, their health,...in short: with their lives.

Sounds eerily familiar to what some of our ancestors experienced.

You hide behind the "From Other" tag...where do you come from/where do you live?

Also, hey. Let's just get the cat out of the bag right now and say that women are also gonna be interested in these games. Some already are. Women are a little more discreet with their adult games, they don't really talk about it so much, but they're there as part of the adult gaming community. But you'll have a woman that's a bit more daring, look at some of the scenes and whisper... "hey, that's kinda hot, kinda kinky" and she'll smile and laugh. Because she gets it's not real. A lot of these gals just want more of this stuff out because they really dig it and it's on the down low. Maia and I are gonna discuss that in another interview this month.

Degredation is way cool these days among those who've lost their way and and can't distinguish up from down. Porn is just one more addiction to get lost in, if getting lost is what you're into, but is it "harmless"? Of course not, because there is absolutely nothing in this world that is. So why lie about it and pretend that it is? Because that is the psychology of an addict: to minimize the harmfulness of what they're doing and pretend that they're in control. And modern research is showing that pornography has some very nasty effects on the human mind, one of which is that plain vanilla porn doesn't satisfy indefinitely with respect to arousal, which is why pornographers exploit taboos like rape, incest, etc.

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Currently i work on a complex multi threaded high performance processing software weighing at around 1.5 millions of lines of C++ code, but in my younger years I did some work on open source games and 3d renderings as a hobby.

I knew enough to know that I better quit early, since my renders were looking similar to the way these 3D porn games and comics look. Poor texturing, unnatural poses and terrible lighting was alI I could manage, so I know how little knowledge and effort it is needed to make something like that.

It might appear complex and difficult for someone who never tried it, but there is very small gap to cross from not knowing how to make a 3d image to making this bad a 3d image compared to insurmountable abyss that stands between this type of work and high quality render.

But it is a problem when game store is touting its curation policies. Remember that GOG pretends that it has scruples and that is different from Steam, yet still sells porn.

If your local health food store started selling hot dogs by a moto "it's all just free will" would it make sense to you?