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Posted February 25, 2015
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madth3: In my response to BMF59 I mean that I did not see any purpose in choosing to not sell the game at all.
That's how I read it, but I can see where it could be ambiguous.

As someone opposed to censorship, I think GOG has taken the right course here in at least carrying the game for the customers they can. And while I normally applaud efforts to put the "civil" back in "civilisation", I think education rather than censorship is the way to go. But education is complex and dangerous for the status quo, whereas censorship is cheap and easy. No wonder governments go for the latter.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Grargar: Failed reading comprehension.
I see now that the "here" in my first post might be ambiguous.
:)
Posted February 25, 2015
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mrkgnao: How about having it here and selling it to Australians?
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Grargar: Unfortunately, it would be illegal and I'm pretty sure that neither GOG, neither Devolver Digital would want to take the risk.
What could the Australians do? GOG is not an Australian company.
Posted February 25, 2015
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mrkgnao: What could the Australians do? GOG is not an Australian company.
That's not how it goes. GOG could be sued, similarly to how Steam was sued for its refund policy, which clashed with the Australian law.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Grargar: Unfortunately, it would be illegal and I'm pretty sure that neither GOG, neither Devolver Digital would want to take the risk.
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mrkgnao: What could the Australians do? GOG is not an Australian company.
We can't do anything to change laws....
Posted February 25, 2015
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mrkgnao: What could the Australians do? GOG is not an Australian company.
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Grargar: That's not how it goes. GOG could be sued, similarly to how Steam was sued for its refund policy, which clashed with the Australian law.
Why save them the trouble of suing?
Posted February 25, 2015
I don't consider a region lock and a blacklisting to be similar at all. What I'd like to know is why GOG is not selling it.

Nice little reminder of the IP profiling "for your protection".
Post edited February 25, 2015 by realkman666
Posted February 25, 2015
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mrkgnao: Why save them the trouble of suing?
I guess if you blatantly violate laws and get sued for it, you will lose and there will be consequences.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
Posted February 25, 2015
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mrkgnao: Why save them the trouble of suing?
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Rixasha: I guess if you blatantly violate laws and get sued for it, you will lose and there will be consequences.
One does not fight wrong laws by capitulating to them. One at least attempts to resist them.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Rixasha: I guess if you blatantly violate laws and get sued for it, you will lose and there will be consequences.
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mrkgnao: One does not fight wrong laws by capitulating to them. One at least attempts to resist them.
+1
Listen to this polygon chick!
Post edited February 25, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted February 25, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
QFT. +1.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
Exactly. I know my account is on hold here until I understand this.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
They tried this with the Witcher 2. They were pressured by the courts to give up or face the consequences.
Posted February 25, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
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Grargar: They tried this with the Witcher 2. They were pressured by the courts to give up or face the consequences.
Great, more stuff to dig up.
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