Posted September 06, 2016
timppu: According to this, the model that will probably be tested in Finland is a "partial basic income", ie. that 560€ or whatever would replace the basic benefits that unemployed get, e.g. "work market benefit" (työmarkkinatuki), or "basic daily allowance" (peruspäiväraha), and/or "livelihood support" (toimeentulotuki). Those English translations are probably bullshit, I just translated them directly from the Finnish terms.
I think on top of that would still come some kind of housing benefits (depending on where you live), child benefits etc. Also "ansiosidonnainen" (sorry I don't know what that would be in English, the elevated unemployment support which is given for some time based on what your earlier wage was) would come on top of it.
Pensioners and students would not get basic income, they have different benefits.
So don't the unemployed there get any social benefits at all from the state or commune or whatever? They only live with their savings, and then die of hunger unless someone like the local church gives them free food?
If they get any money at all from the powers that be without working, then they already get work-free income.
They get $75/month. So you're right... Funny thing is that they consider that enough so many of them don't even consider working small jobs etc. So maybe no welfare at all would be better. On the other hand soon technology will eliminate most jobs for unqualified workers, then we'd need to keep them busy and fed somehow. I think on top of that would still come some kind of housing benefits (depending on where you live), child benefits etc. Also "ansiosidonnainen" (sorry I don't know what that would be in English, the elevated unemployment support which is given for some time based on what your earlier wage was) would come on top of it.
Pensioners and students would not get basic income, they have different benefits.
So don't the unemployed there get any social benefits at all from the state or commune or whatever? They only live with their savings, and then die of hunger unless someone like the local church gives them free food?
If they get any money at all from the powers that be without working, then they already get work-free income.
I think only those who don't realize the costs of real-estate ownership. Actually if an apartment like that costs let's say 100000 euros, then the 350 euros per month are very little. Don't you get deductions for renovations? Here you can use up to 25% of your rent-income tax to deduct repairs.
Post edited September 06, 2016 by blotunga