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General discussionPhoenix Point aims for the feet, is Epic exclusive for a year.(239 posts)(239 posts)
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Posted March 12, 2019
So the short of it is, that Phoenix Point is a X-Com style game, made by the actual creator of X-Com.

The problem is, that after going to the most sketchy crowdfunding sites, (like Fig), it was decided at long last to do what most crowdfunding campaigns do, and screw over their backers in some major way.

In this case, it was accepting a deal from a metaphorical devil, as the inbound game is due to be an Epic Store exclusive for an entire 365, in return for undisclosed bags of money, Flintheart Glomgold style.

Sounds smart, in the same sort of way of trying to sell beachfront property to someone in Arizona. (For those of you in the international, Arizona is landlocked.)
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Darvond: So the short of it is, that Phoenix Point is a X-Com style game, made by the actual creator of X-Com.

The problem is, that after going to the most sketchy crowdfunding sites, (like Fig), it was decided at long last to do what most crowdfunding campaigns do, and screw over their backers in some major way.

In this case, it was accepting a deal from a metaphorical devil, as the inbound game is due to be an Epic Store exclusive for an entire 365, in return for undisclosed bags of money, Flintheart Glomgold style.

Sounds smart, in the same sort of way of trying to sell beachfront property to someone in Arizona. (For those of you in the international, Arizona is landlocked.)
Fig is not sketchy. Epic Store is not the devil. These decisions do not screw over the backers.

Take a hike with your outrage peddling.
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misteryo: These decisions do not screw over the backers.
Considering they promised Steam and GOG to backers. It kinda does screw people over?
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misteryo: These decisions do not screw over the backers.
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omega64: Considering they promised Steam and GOG to backers. It kinda does screw people over?
No. They are offering full refunds for people unhappy with the change of platform.
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omega64: Considering they promised Steam and GOG to backers. It kinda does screw people over?
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misteryo: No. They are offering full refunds for people unhappy with the change of platform.
Yes and those people won't be able to play the game they backed because they wanted to play it until a year later at least.
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Posted March 12, 2019
If they didn't mention anything else in their crowfunding campaign, people should be pissed if they're forced to use a certain client to gain access to a game they already paid for.
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misteryo: No. They are offering full refunds for people unhappy with the change of platform.
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omega64: Yes and those people won't be able to play the game until a year later at least.
And?

If they want it now, they can play it on Epic. If they want it on Steam, they can wait.
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DadJoke007: If they didn't mention anything else in their crowfunding campaign, people should be pissed if they're forced to use a certain client to gain access to a game they already paid for.
They are not forced. They can get a refund.

Not getting the game on the platform you wanted is a disappointment, not an outrage, not mafia tactics, not evil.

Backing a crowdfunding campaign that didn't turn out exactly as you hoped is disappointing, but the devs offering a refund is honorable behavior.
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misteryo: And?

If they want it now, they can play it on Epic. If they want it on Steam, they can wait. They are not forced. They can get a refund.
Do you really think anyone is going to be willing to wait a whole year for a game like this?
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misteryo: They are not forced. They can get a refund.
Still sketchy to accept backer money when it's needed, but later give them the middle finger when they recieve a bigger amount of money from a third party. They had a mutual deal between them and the backers (read: original investors) that they later backpedaled on when they were not needed anymore.

Scumbag behavior, refund or not. You keep your word, especially when the deal is already closed.
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Yep, at least game will be polished one year after release.
I can easily wait for releasing it on GoG.
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misteryo: And?

If they want it now, they can play it on Epic. If they want it on Steam, they can wait. They are not forced. They can get a refund.
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Darvond: Do you really think anyone is going to be willing to wait a whole year for a game like this?
If they can't wait, that is their choice as a consumer. I wait more than a whole year for great games all the time.
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misteryo: They are not forced. They can get a refund.
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DadJoke007: Still sketchy to accept backer money when it's needed, but later give them the middle finger when they recieve a bigger amount of money from a third party. They had a mutual deal between them and the backers (read: original investors) that they later backpedaled on when they were not needed anymore.
As I said, disappointing. But offering a refund is the proper response.
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Posted March 12, 2019
Shoot. The whole reason that I backed that game was because they offered gog codes.

I don't know the first thing about the Epic store, but I doubt that they are DRM-free. Oh well.
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DadJoke007: Scumbag behavior, refund or not. You keep your word, especially when the deal is already closed.
Crowdfunding is a risky business. Always has been. You are gambling on getting what you hope you'll get. And when a dev is going to change something, offering a refund is an honorable action to take.
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sergeant_citrus: Shoot. The whole reason that I backed that game was because they offered gog codes.

I don't know the first thing about the Epic store, but I doubt that they are DRM-free. Oh well.
Get your refund. Wait for a GOG release a couple years down the road.

Pretty much like everything we wait for on GOG.
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truhlik: Yep, at least game will be polished one year after release.
I can easily wait for releasing it on GoG.
Same here.
As long as it's coming to GoG eventually, I'll just make use of some novel concept called "patience".
Posted March 12, 2019
I'm really disappointed. I was ready to jump on the hype train and wanted to preoder it right away, when it arrives on GOG. I was happy, that they let the user decide, where they want to play the game (Steam or GOG). Why not just include EPIC on that list?

Guess I wait a year now. Saves me money and if the game is not good, I have the chance to not buy it :-).
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