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Posted July 23, 2015
They would sure add them if they could reach an agreement with Bethesda ;-)
Posted July 23, 2015
No new news ('duh) but if I remember correctly, there was a time when Bethesda gave away the first two TES on their website. Maybe not anymore though (correction = they still are). Anyway, what moonshineshadow says its true...

edit: ninja'd; they're freeware! Thanks JMich! ;-)
Post edited July 23, 2015 by Vythonaut
Posted July 23, 2015
Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.

Elder Scrolls would have been a great addition, especially Morrowind. But as long as those idiotic clowns, who even have the audacity to think we gamers are sheeple/idiots (they posted a ridiculous/hilarious article claiming they support DRM-FREE gaming, once, some time ago), thrive, we have zero chance to see their property here. They have their own intrusive, DRM-ridden, garbage client, called U-play or whatever.

Shame, really. Games like Morrowind would be a crown jewel on gog website. Their loss. Some people prefer sailing under a black flag instead of buying a DRM-locked piece of junk.
Posted July 23, 2015
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moonshineshadow: They would sure add them if they could reach an agreement with Bethesda ;-)
So far Obama has a better chance of reaching an agreement with Kim Jong-un. :P
Post edited July 23, 2015 by stg83
Posted July 23, 2015
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.

Elder Scrolls would have been a great addition, especially Morrowind. But as long as those idiotic clowns, who even have the audacity to think we gamers are sheeple/idiots (they posted a ridiculous/hilarious article claiming they support DRM-FREE gaming, once, some time ago), thrive, we have zero chance to see their property here. They have their own intrusive, DRM-ridden, garbage client, called U-play or whatever.

Shame, really. Games like Morrowind would be a crown jewel on gog website. Their loss. Some people prefer sailing under a black flag instead of buying a DRM-locked piece of junk.
And yet they ironically claim to not be...

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/bethesda_claims_to_be_antidrm/page1
Post edited July 23, 2015 by BKGaming
Posted July 23, 2015
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.
To be fair, this is after GOG had worked with the previous owners of the IP to give away the game for free right before the copyrights switched hands.
Posted July 24, 2015
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.
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Pheace: To be fair, this is after GOG had worked with the previous owners of the IP to give away the game for free right before the copyrights switched hands.
Which they only did because Bethesda refused to keep selling the game here. GOG attempted to renegotiate with Bethesda before the rights expiration, Bethesda refused, so GOG gave the game away for free as a "going away present" to us. If Bethesda hadn't first refused to keep the game up on GOG, it never would have been given away for free, they just would have changed the publisher name on the store page and kept on selling it.
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: so GOG gave the game away for free as a "going away present" to us.
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JMich: Interplay did that. GOG cannot give a game for free without the publisher's consent.
Good point, still doesn't change the fact that Bethesda refused to continue selling the game before the freebie happened.
Posted July 24, 2015
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.
The copyrights didn't expired, Interplay sold them. And your "pro DRM bitches" argument falls flat on it's own face, given that Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics are DRM-free on Steam.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: They have their own intrusive, DRM-ridden, garbage client, called U-play or whatever.
I'll keep waiting for some actual PROVE of such a claim - so far, none is available.
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: If Bethesda hadn't first refused to keep the game up on GOG
Considering that the game was removed from Steam as well, I doubt it was possible to keep it up. My suspicions for their general removal are that Bethesda wasn't allowed to keep on selling the games with Interplay's logo (since Interplay is still a functional company, but no longer responsible for Fallout) and had to change it to their own, before they were able to continue selling them.
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: If Bethesda hadn't first refused to keep the game up on GOG
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Grargar: Considering that the game was removed from Steam as well, I doubt it was possible to keep it up. My suspicions for their general removal are that Bethesda wasn't allowed to keep on selling the games with Interplay's logo (since Interplay is still a functional company, but no longer responsible for Fallout) and had to change it to their own, before they were able to continue selling them.
Except it wasn't removed from Steam, its still there now. Bethesda is listed as the publisher and Interplay as the developer. I seriously doubt logos had anything to do with it, since even if the publisher/rights holder changed, Interplay will always be the developer of record. Even if it was due to some obscure trademark issue or something, they obviously were able to get around it on Steam, why not on GOG?
Posted July 24, 2015
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bethesda are pro DRM b*tches. Once, fallout series were here on GOG. As soon as the copyrights expired and became Bethesda's fully, those shameless pr*cks REMOVED those awesome, good old, classic games from here.
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Siannah: The copyrights didn't expired, Interplay sold them. And your "pro DRM bitches" argument falls flat on it's own face, given that Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics are DRM-free on Steam.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: They have their own intrusive, DRM-ridden, garbage client, called U-play or whatever.
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Siannah: I'll keep waiting for some actual PROVE of such a claim - so far, none is available.
Sorry, but i will disappoint you, darling. If only i could ever prove ANY of my claims, i wouldn't even be here in the first place and in such a sorry state, too...
Post edited July 24, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: Except it wasn't removed from Steam, its still there now. Bethesda is listed as the publisher and Interplay as the developer. I seriously doubt logos had anything to do with it, since even if the publisher/rights holder changed, Interplay will always be the developer of record. Even if it was due to some obscure trademark issue or something, they obviously were able to get around it on Steam, why not on GOG?
If memory serves, they were taken down from Steam as well for a time before appearing there again. Or am I completely out in left field on this?
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: Except it wasn't removed from Steam, its still there now. Bethesda is listed as the publisher and Interplay as the developer. I seriously doubt logos had anything to do with it, since even if the publisher/rights holder changed, Interplay will always be the developer of record. Even if it was due to some obscure trademark issue or something, they obviously were able to get around it on Steam, why not on GOG?
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Coelocanth: If memory serves, they were taken down from Steam as well for a time before appearing there again. Or am I completely out in left field on this?
Possibly, I don't remember them leaving Steam, but it was a while ago. Either way, the point still stands: if whatever may have forced the games removal from GOG and Steam was some kind of legal shenanigans, why are they now back on Steam and not on GOG? Obviously whatever facilitated their removal in the first place was something that could be corrected, otherwise if they were removed from Steam, they never would have come back. I can't imagine GOG would refuse the games they launched the site with, so I can only assume Bethesda (or their lawyer) is the one at fault.
Posted July 24, 2015
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cogadh: Except it wasn't removed from Steam, its still there now.
They were removed on 2 January 2014, and returned on 18 June.

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cogadh: Bethesda is listed as the publisher and Interplay as the developer. I seriously doubt logos had anything to do with it, since even if the publisher/rights holder changed, Interplay will always be the developer of record. Even if it was due to some obscure trademark issue or something, they obviously were able to get around it on Steam, why not on GOG?
I'm talking about the in-game logos and not necessarily what is displayed in the games' store page. From what I have heard, there has been some in-game tweaking in the Steam versions to remove references to Interplay (like copyright information) and change them to Bethesda. Can't personally confirm it as I don't have the games on Steam. As for not signing up with GOG later, well yeah, can't argue there.
Post edited July 24, 2015 by Grargar
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