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sherringon456: Because you probably did. I know I read this somewhere else (Maybe even on GoG.) sometime in the summer.

This is being blown out of proportion if you still don't need an account to download drivers. It's just another thing for the DRM haters to use as an exuse cut their nose of to spite their face and refuse to use yet another product. If you want to play/use something, play/use it.
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Darvond: Now the thing is, I do understand that if you don't use the Experience program, you only get drivers on a quarterly basis. THAT is something to complain about.
On one hand yes, you don't get them for the very latest games unless they just happen to release around the dame time as the quarterly driver, but on the other hand no because you still get them.
Post edited October 07, 2016 by sherringon456
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Randalator: Actually, no.

"Its primary purpose however is to provide users with configurations for games that make them run in optimal fashion on the system. This is especially handy for inexperienced gamers who don't want to or cannot configure games manually."

In other words: "In order to have nVidia setup your graphics settings for your through an additional piece of software or use other features contained in that additional piece of software instead of other third party solutions that have been around for longer than the GeForce Experience you have to go online and sign up for an account."

All features of the GPU are still available to you. It's software features that are restricted. If the famous "Generic Fantasy MMORPG" shut down, you wouldn't claim that the developer had restricted your GPU's "Generic Fantasy MMORPG displaying feature", would you?
Very interesting. AMD video hardware comes with software that does the same thing (Raptr) which does not require you to have a login on their website. I guess I'll be buying from AMD next time.
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Spectre: It sounds like the same bullshit razer tried on. It's ridiculous that people are supporting attempts forcing people to sign up to this.
Indeed, that's the same thing I thought when I read it. I got burned by Razer once before also. Once.

Once bitten, twice shy.
Post edited October 07, 2016 by skeletonbow
By the way, when Geforce Experience asked me to update to some shiny "new" looking version, which I presume to be this Geforce Experience 3, it crashed during the update, giving me a Microsoft visual C++ error. What's up with that (as this never happened during previous updates)? Anyways, I usually install new drivers the traditional way. My last update was at version 353.30. Yeah, I know it's ancient, but I've not been playing any really new games as of late.
As an AMD user I'mma just laugh at anyone having this problem. :D

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skeletonbow: Very interesting. AMD video hardware comes with software that does the same thing (Raptr) which does not require you to have a login on their website. I guess I'll be buying from AMD next time.
Raptr used to be alright but has since become somewhat obsolete, non-maintained, and buggy. It served its purpose of getting me a free graphics card though. :>

Now you can optimize your games through the Crimson driver and download Plays.tv if you need to record/stream anything.
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MaximumBunny: As an AMD user I'mma just laugh at anyone having this problem. :D

Raptr used to be alright but has since become somewhat obsolete, non-maintained, and buggy. It served its purpose of getting me a free graphics card though. :>

Now you can optimize your games through the Crimson driver and download Plays.tv if you need to record/stream anything.
Raptr still comes with AMD Crimson and works just fine for me. The configuration options you can set within the AMD Radeon Settings software are basically the same settings you could change in the AMD Control Center for the last 15-20 years, only expanded to cover new hardware features naturally. These settings are nothing new, and they do not replace what Raptr does. Raptr actually reconfigures the games themselves, altering the game's own in-game settings for performance or quality etc. Throw away Raptr and just use the AMD Radeon Settings and you are more or less just doing everything manually as it was before things like Raptr existed. That's fine if that is what someone wants, but it means you manually configure each individual setting in each individual game yourself - doing your own research either online or by personal experimentation to find what works best for the given game on your own hardware, possibly editing registry keys or INI files as well even if you want to take it to that level, and then optionally manually editing settings in the AMD Radeon Settings per-game options.

Completely different purposes. Doing this manually yourself is nothing new, it's always been like that. The purpose of someone using or want to use software like Raptr for this, is that the software already has built in knowledge of the games and will configure the game itself for you, not just setting up 10-15 configuration options in the AMD driver options.

Yes, you can do everything Raptr does without having Raptr (or any similar software), simply by increasing your knowledge both of all of your video card's capabilities and driver settings, and the capabilities of every individual game you want to optimize and doing it all manually. The point of Raptr is that not everyone wants to do that all manually by hand, nor is everyone capable of doing so. Raptr serves as much purpose today as it ever did, for the target audience it is designed for.

Having said that, I speak only in terms of the functionality it provides and my own experience using it. I do not use it with every game however, nor that often, but it has been useful for some games at times and I understand the appeal it has for the user they develop and target the software for, and why AMD would want to include it with their software, as well as why someone would want it. I have no opinion concerning bugs in the software or how well maintained it is, but I haven't personally had issues with it.

Simply editing settings in the AMD driver settings does not accomplish the same goals however, unless you also in-depth configure the game and customize it for your hardware as well. That can be a quite involved process for some games, especially for many players out there. I lean towards custom-tweaking most of my games personally, but I appreciate software that tries to automate the process also, and there is certainly no reason why someone has to choose one approach exclusively over the other when it is easy to have both. :)
I did the update with GFE and soons as the logon screen came up I uninstalled it from every computer in my house. Only had it for the profiles it downloaded and the notice of when there was an update. I believe it is going to be nothing more than a marketing tool for them to sell you stuff.

I know there are a lot of fans for both AMD and NVidia but when you get down to just specs, which is actually better? I have been using NVidia since the Banshee.
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clisair: I did the update with GFE and soons as the logon screen came up I uninstalled it from every computer in my house. Only had it for the profiles it downloaded and the notice of when there was an update. I believe it is going to be nothing more than a marketing tool for them to sell you stuff.

I know there are a lot of fans for both AMD and NVidia but when you get down to just specs, which is actually better? I have been using NVidia since the Banshee.
Nvidia has the edge technologically, but AMD is the better value. Both are unimpressive when it comes to drivers.
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clisair: I did the update with GFE and soons as the logon screen came up I uninstalled it from every computer in my house. Only had it for the profiles it downloaded and the notice of when there was an update. I believe it is going to be nothing more than a marketing tool for them to sell you stuff.

I know there are a lot of fans for both AMD and NVidia but when you get down to just specs, which is actually better? I have been using NVidia since the Banshee.
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richlind33: Nvidia has the edge technologically, but AMD is the better value. Both are unimpressive when it comes to drivers.
I would agree with this as a user of both, but with a leaning to AMD.

The problem as I see it from my end, is that I want to get to the point where I make a permanent move to Linux. With limited knowledge of Linux and my own experiments, AMD just can't cut it. I wish they would start.
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richlind33: Nvidia has the edge technologically, but AMD is the better value. Both are unimpressive when it comes to drivers.
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lazydog: I would agree with this as a user of both, but with a leaning to AMD.

The problem as I see it from my end, is that I want to get to the point where I make a permanent move to Linux. With limited knowledge of Linux and my own experiments, AMD just can't cut it. I wish they would start.
AMD seems to be my only option because Intel is going stop making processors with backwards compatibility. I'm hoping AMD doesn't decide to go that route.

Anyway, if you're stuck with Intel then it's a very close call re GPU's, and may depend on chipset.
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richlind33: AMD seems to be my only option because Intel is going stop making processors with backwards compatibility. I'm hoping AMD doesn't decide to go that route.

Anyway, if you're stuck with Intel then it's a very close call re GPU's, and may depend on chipset.
Right now every computer, except one, is AMD, 2 of those have the NVidia chipset. Those two are almost identical except for the mobo and drive configurations. Here is my own machine:

Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965, Deneb 45nm Technology 50 °C
RAM : 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (8-8-8-20)
Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A87TD/USB3 (AM3) 33 °C
Monitor: ASUS VW266H (1920x1200@59Hz)
Graphics : 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti (ZOTAC International) 32 °C

Storage:
596GB Western Digital WDC WD6401AALS-00J7B0 ATA Device (SATA) 37 °C
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-08M2NA0 ATA Device (SATA) 30 °C
698GB Western Digital WDC WD7500AALX-009BA0 ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C
5589GB Western Digital WDC WD60EZRZ-00RWYB1 ATA Device (SATA) 31 °C

Optical Drives:
ATAPI iHOS104 ATA Device
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS70 ATA Device

Audio : NVIDIA High Definition Audio (VIA)

Those temps are normal as I keep my system on almost all the time.
Post edited October 09, 2016 by clisair