Pheace: Nearly half the US elected a president that openly
admitted to sexual assault so yeah it's not surprising how endemic it is.
Well we live in a world where sex sells unfortunately...so people (women especially) are always being objectified in some way or another.
I just have to say that if Trump really did sexually assault anyone (or did something even worse) then I hope he is fully held accountable and is legally prosecuted if possible.
However, I also have to say people who say this are not being objective at all and are rather condemning him for something you have no idea if it's true. He said:
"When you're a star,
they let you do it. You can do anything.” which does imply possible consent. People act like groupies who throw themselves at you don't exist when you are wealthy and powerful. They do.
People act like gold diggers and women that want the fame that comes with being with a powerful man don't exist. They do and they will let you do anything to get it.
So to say he "admitted to sexual assault" is a bit much based on the context of what was said, not that it is okay what he said mind you, because it isn't. But the person he was talking about turned him down, which he also stated. I also don't think that person ever claimed he assaulted them either (but I could be wrong).
I also find it crazy when people make the claim that this "wasn't locker room talk". My question to those people is have you been in a locker room in America or even a bar? Men boast all the time privately among male friends about this sort of stuff, stuff they would never say openly or actually ever do. It's never taken serious. Not saying it's right because it isn't or nor am I trying to justify it, but to not acknowledge it would also be wrong.
Hell even women are known to sexually objectify men among their girlfriends...
As far as the accusers, I just feel in these situations both the accuser and the person being accused should be given equal scrutiny because just because somebody says something happen, doesn't mean it did and I don't think people should have their lives ruined based only on he said she said. Especially when the person being accused is wealthy or in a powerful position when the motive may be financial gain or something else.
I do find it a bit curious though that all of Trumps accusers all came out nearly the exact same time and all quietly disappeared after the election
I also find it curious that now Rose McGowan (one of the actress involved in the Harvey Weinstein scandal) is claiming Lisa Bloom (who was one of the attorneys leading the charge against Trump) offered her 6 million dollars to say Harvey Weinstein had changed. Who is to say money (or something else) wasn't also offered to these accusers because of the Access Hollywood tape in an attempt to throw the election to Hillary?
As far as Trump I'm just talking all of this with a huge grain of salt personally until actual evidence is presented... in which case I will then be right there condemning him with you.
dtgreene: One problem: Sometimes, talking to people with opposing viewpoints can be bad for your mental health. This is especially true if the person you're talking to doesn't believe a trait or condition that you have is real, or if that person doesn't believe that people like you deserve rights.
Well on the other hand just because you believe a trait or condition is real, doesn't mean it is. That's the thing about science, one day something is believed and the next day something is discovered that completely changes how we look at things. Nothing is set in stone.
As far a deserving rights, well that comes back to if it's a real trait or condition doesn't it. Not my place to judge that.
But while you think you deserve certain rights, other people equally think they deserve the right to believe what they want and not have those beliefs (that you have) forced onto them nor be forced into accepting situations they disagree with.