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Zimerius: gaming dude....... who cares about extra screen real estate for work! connect your oldie too m8!! ;P

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My oldie is very ill :P I would love to see openttd in QHD though :)
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lagncheese: In case you code a lot,
27" 1440p is currently considered as a sweet spot in terms of pixel density by many people who code professionally.
It is very noticeable on monospaced fonts, they look much crispier in 1440p vs 1080p (but actual pixel per inch ratio of the monitor plays a huge role here).
Also it provides optimal amount of screen real estate for several editor panes and terminals in most cases.
There is also big chance that you adapt pretty fast without increasing dpi.

Check out this video on screen sizes, it covers pretty important topics that are often overlooked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BdRLpg49L4
Cool thank you very much I will have a look. My only worry at this stage is that the only affordable QHD panels are VA, and I'm worried about the smearing effect with coding and scrolling through documents, since I like using dark backgrounds in my editors. However I've also noticed that the dark pixel response times for certain VA as far as I can tell are good enough to to almost completely avoid black smearing at 60Hz, and possibly even make it very tolerable/barely noticeable at 70Hz. I wouldn't mind at all to manually keep my QHD at 70Hz for work. My laptop only has HDMI 1.4 in any case, so those higher refresh rates are out of range for me for the time being at QHD.

The best dark pixel response times I've seen so far is a 32'' QHD VA Dell monitor, but thats a positively massive screen, and I would lose the crispiness of the image. That's about the same dpi as fullhd 24''.
Post edited January 17, 2022 by Matewis
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Zimerius: gaming dude....... who cares about extra screen real estate for work! connect your oldie too m8!! ;P

125% rocks
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Matewis: My oldie is very ill :P I would love to see openttd in QHD though :)
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lagncheese: In case you code a lot,
27" 1440p is currently considered as a sweet spot in terms of pixel density by many people who code professionally.
It is very noticeable on monospaced fonts, they look much crispier in 1440p vs 1080p (but actual pixel per inch ratio of the monitor plays a huge role here).
Also it provides optimal amount of screen real estate for several editor panes and terminals in most cases.
There is also big chance that you adapt pretty fast without increasing dpi.

Check out this video on screen sizes, it covers pretty important topics that are often overlooked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BdRLpg49L4
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Matewis: Cool thank you very much I will have a look. My only worry at this stage is that the only affordable QHD panels are VA, and I'm worried about the smearing effect with coding and scrolling through documents, since I like using dark backgrounds in my editors. However I've also noticed that the dark pixel response times for certain VA as far as I can tell are good enough to to almost completely avoid black smearing at 60Hz, and possibly even make it very tolerable/barely noticeable at 70Hz. I wouldn't mind at all to manually keep my QHD at 70Hz for work. My laptop only has HDMI 1.4 in any case, so those higher refresh rates are out of range for me for the time being at QHD.

The best dark pixel response times I've seen so far is a 32'' QHD VA Dell monitor, but thats a positively massive screen, and I would lose the crispiness of the image. That's about the same dpi as fullhd 24''.
That was a prominent problem 5-10 years ago, all panels (TN/VA/IPS) has changed a lot since then.
And there is simply no silver bullet, only compromises.
If you don't go ultra-cheap and do a proper research there is a huge chance for you to get decent work/gaming screen regardless of panel type, in my opinion.
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Matewis: You're a bit of a kill-joy has anyone ever told you that? ;) On the bright side, I could then just get a normal 144Hz 1080p 24'' TN panel, save some money, and leave the fancy monitor for a post system upgrade.
haha, sorry about that. A couple of years ago I also had to do a bunch of research in order to buy a monitor and I almost lost it, it's horrible. But yeah, as you said, checking some monitors out before you buy might help with your decision; otherwise, if you have some sort of return policy available to you, then it's also nice to see how that monitor you liked fits within your workplace.
Post edited February 02, 2022 by Wirvington
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lagncheese: ...
That was a prominent problem 5-10 years ago, all panels (TN/VA/IPS) has changed a lot since then.
And there is simply no silver bullet, only compromises.
If you don't go ultra-cheap and do a proper research there is a huge chance for you to get decent work/gaming screen regardless of panel type, in my opinion.
Yeah, everywhere I turn that seems to be the case. But yes, I'm making good use of rtings.com and their phenomenal test results to do some research.
A reminder that a monitor is unlikely to have the same components after having been manufactured for a year as it had when it was a new model. :-(

(This goes for SSDs too :-( ) Sorry off-topic.
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Zimerius: gaming dude....... who cares about extra screen real estate for work! connect your oldie too m8!! ;P

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It also breaks resource monitor in windows 7 on some themes. Thanks retarded microsoft.
I don't have much to add but regarding the scalling not every program (app or whatever) scale proportionally, some old software simply don't scale at all. It's not a huge deal on a desktop choosing resolutions between 1080/100% and 1440/125% but the problem is there. A good exemple is MSI afterburner, wich on older versions don't scale at all.
Also, 1440@125 looks sharper, quite noticeable even on text.

On my 12" tablet have to choose between 2160x1440 @ 200% and 1080x720 @ 100% to balance sharp image and battery life.
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Matewis: My oldie is very ill :P I would love to see openttd in QHD though :)
don't forget about Gladius ;) lots of TBS games look a lot more fun in QHD, can't even run Humankind on normal settings without creating a vortex next to my ear though... so be warned

in all fairness, the biggest issue with the transfer from 1080p towards 1440p was the reduced settings i had to deal with in a lot of games (and some little surprises in others which may or may not have something to do with the HDMI - display port transfer that happened at the same time)

it took some time to realize that lower settings still meant a higher level of detail in most cases.

but....

the new GPU savings account also did not appear out of the random blue :O
If you run demanding titles in >1080p on low/mid specs, you can mitigate performance drop reasonably well using super sampling.
And you don't need NVIDIA DLSS to get acceptable results.
AMD FSR (FidelityFX Super Resolution) works on any modern GPU and can give you pretty good experience.
You can even manually inject it in games that doesn't support it natively, since it is an high level post-processing.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-fidelityfx-super-resolution
Post edited January 18, 2022 by lagncheese
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randomuser.833: IPS problems are mostly related to the manufacturers and if you want to buy cheap or not.
I agree. Black smearing and IPS glow isn't really an issue for a good quality modern IPS.

Matewis, you should compare individual models and see what best suits your needs and personal preferences, rather than simplifying it to VA vs IPS technology. Highly recommend you check out some reviews and "best" lists by Hardware Unboxed on YouTube as they're the best out there.

Whichever way go, definitely consider high refresh rate 100Hz+, and/or ultrawide. Ultrawide was lifechanging for me, both for gaming immersion and for productivity. Can never go back.
Like a couple folks already did, I too recommend the LG 27GL850 UltraGear. I got it with a nice discount during the 2020's Black Friday, and I'm very happy with it, no issues so far. And like Pardinuz said, above me, do check Hardware Unboxed for reviews and recommendations (their review made me choose the UltraGear), as many more monitors have been released last year, some better, some cheaper.
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ariaspi: Like a couple folks already did, I too recommend the LG 27GL850 UltraGear. I got it with a nice discount during the 2020's Black Friday, and I'm very happy with it, no issues so far. And like Pardinuz said, above me, do check Hardware Unboxed for reviews and recommendations (their review made me choose the UltraGear), as many more monitors have been released last year, some better, some cheaper.
The only game where I got HDR working reasonable proper is ME Andromeda, and only because of the Dolby Vision licence. Software HDR is pretty much a fluke in my experience. It is the only negative thing I could mention.
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ariaspi: Like a couple folks already did, I too recommend the LG 27GL850 UltraGear. I got it with a nice discount during the 2020's Black Friday, and I'm very happy with it, no issues so far. And like Pardinuz said, above me, do check Hardware Unboxed for reviews and recommendations (their review made me choose the UltraGear), as many more monitors have been released last year, some better, some cheaper.
Absolutely, the 27GL850 was the best monitor you could get at a reasonable price 2 years ago (I got myself the big boy version of that, the 34GN850), but there probably are better alternatives at that price range nowadays.
Post edited January 21, 2022 by Pardinuz
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ariaspi: Like a couple folks already did, I too recommend the LG 27GL850 UltraGear. I got it with a nice discount during the 2020's Black Friday, and I'm very happy with it, no issues so far. And like Pardinuz said, above me, do check Hardware Unboxed for reviews and recommendations (their review made me choose the UltraGear), as many more monitors have been released last year, some better, some cheaper.
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Pardinuz: Absolutely, the 27GL850 was the best monitor you could get at a reasonable price 2 years ago (I got myself the big boy version of that, the 34GN850), but there probably are better alternatives at that price range nowadays.
don't forget how g-sync compatibles are mostly fairly to overly expensive
just an info share for all those GL850 owners.

the variable refresh rate range = 48 - 144

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