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*shrugs* *goes back to life*
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Themken: ...but but but, will I still be able to surf on the net with my Windows XP now?
Firefox. Firefox is the word you should remember.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by Firebrand9
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Themken: The problem is the user who: "Change? Why?! It came with the computer and it works?!"
Well, do they actually know it works? I think they use it, and just assume that's the way things are until something goes horribly wrong.

The other problem is M$ being allowed to include it as default, although trade off between ease of use for most users/freedom of choice. If it didn't come pre-installed, people would be forced to actually look at it and make a concious choice as to what to use - maybe anyways.
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bela555: who used that shit? :P
For downloading installer for Firefox or any other browser upon fresh install of Windows. :P
Post edited January 12, 2016 by Hunter65536
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Themken: The problem is the user who: "Change? Why?! It came with the computer and it works?!"
pretty much what i said earlier
and you can explain to them why till your blue in the face it goes in one ear and out the other
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bela555: who used that shit? :P
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Hunter65536: For downloading installer for Firefox or any other browser upon fresh install of Windows. :P
i keep offline installers of seamonkey and palemoon so i can bypass IE alltogether
Post edited January 12, 2016 by snowkatt
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Themken: The problem is the user who: "Change? Why?! It came with the computer and it works?!"
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snowkatt: pretty much what i said earlier
and you can explain to them why till your blue in the face it goes in one ear and out the other
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Hunter65536: For downloading installer for Firefox or any other browser upon fresh install of Windows. :P
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snowkatt: i keep offline installers of seamonkey and palemoon so i can bypass IE alltogether
I should keep that in mind during my next reinstall :)
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PookaMustard: IE11 is simply the best version of IE out there. So I simply don't know of any reason why you'd stay on an older one other than maybe your Windows version isn't able to get any higher than what it got. But even then, as someone above said, IE11 is living on borrowed time as Microsoft Edge gets to mature over time. That or they will keep IE11 in future versions just to keep legacy code in check, and also perhaps because I heard that a part of Windows rely on IE11 for things, though I'm unsure about that for Windows 10.
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drmlessgames: Isnt Edge just IE with a slightly more robust IE engine?
Maybe it is as you say. I notice really similar behavior with Humble Bundle on Edge and IE.... mainly that they both can't login to Humble Bundle because it sucks as a website.

And please people, if you're gonna mention a third party browser, at least mention CHROME. Firefox is fired.
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PookaMustard: And please people, if you're gonna mention a third party browser, at least mention CHROME. Firefox is fired.
Nah, thanks, I don't want Google software installed on my computer.

By the way, why isn't there a clean open-source Chromium variant available for Windows? There's SWare Iron, but that thing is closed source (even though it's claiming to be open source)
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PookaMustard: And please people, if you're gonna mention a third party browser, at least mention CHROME. Firefox is fired.
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ShadowOwl: Nah, thanks, I don't want Google software installed on my computer.
Well to each their own browser, but Firefox simply feels slow and clunky. And it looks a lot like Chrome now.
By the way, why isn't there a clean open-source Chromium variant available for Windows? There's SWare Iron, but that thing is closed source (even though it's claiming to be open source)
I'm afraid I know nothing of the subject about open-source and closed source browsers, so I can't answer that question.

Since you talked about not wanting Google software installed, you remind me of myself. Just change the word "Google" to "Apple" and you'll get what I'm talking about.
Quite disliked IE. Mostly use Firefox now.
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ShadowOwl: Nah, thanks, I don't want Google software installed on my computer.
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PookaMustard: Well to each their own browser, but Firefox simply feels slow and clunky. And it looks a lot like Chrome now.

By the way, why isn't there a clean open-source Chromium variant available for Windows? There's SWare Iron, but that thing is closed source (even though it's claiming to be open source)
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PookaMustard: I'm afraid I know nothing of the subject about open-source and closed source browsers, so I can't answer that question.

Since you talked about not wanting Google software installed, you remind me of myself. Just change the word "Google" to "Apple" and you'll get what I'm talking about.
dont like the look and feel of chrome and i dont like the look and feel of firefox either
when i say firefox versions i mean derivatives
seamonkey is a firefox derivative that looks like mozilla
and it works just fine for me

pale moon is also a firefox derivative
I haver never used it, I always used chrome and now edge :P
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ShadowOwl: By the way, why isn't there a clean open-source Chromium variant available for Windows?
You mean, like Chromium Portable? (Of course, as I only just found it, and see that they haven't actually published any source, I assume they've just compiled the upstream Chromium code as-is and packaged it to be portable.)

There's also Comodo Dragon, which is pretty much Chrome with some Comodo security features built-in - the latter of which are not open as far as I know.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: You mean, like Chromium Portable? (Of course, as I only just found it, and see that they haven't actually published any source, I assume they've just compiled the upstream Chromium code as-is and packaged it to be portable.)
Looks more like what I was looking for, thanks! While I'll keep using Firefox (because of the awesome amount and qualityof addons) though, while I will use Chromium for specific research. Not going to touch Comodo Dragon though for pretty obvious reasons.
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Maighstir: You mean, like Chromium Portable? (Of course, as I only just found it, and see that they haven't actually published any source, I assume they've just compiled the upstream Chromium code as-is and packaged it to be portable.)
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ShadowOwl: Looks more like what I was looking for, thanks! While I'll keep using Firefox (because of the awesome amount and qualityof addons) though, while I will use Chromium for specific research. Not going to touch Comodo Dragon though for pretty obvious reasons.
You might prefer this more: http://chromium.woolyss.com/ -prepackaged versions of chromium for both 32 and 64-bits with an installer version too, and the build seems more up to date than that previous link too... I personally found it by random a while ago while looking around regarding linux stuff...
Old IE versions have been a pain for a long time. Not sorry to see them backgrounded personally. It does create some interesting situations for companies that have struggled to get off of IE8. There is plenty of that out there.

I was a bit surprised to hear how they were going to drop them all at once.