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clarry: Ok.. I guess these people would never buy a book or a movie or a game or a bicycle or a car or a home or get an education or a job because there are too many to choose from.
For the average book reader which do they usually have more of, books or bookcases? And how many bookcases do people usually look through before picking one? Not too many for most people i'd wager. It's the books that are important, and not as much the case holding them.

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clarry: How is this related to Linux at all?
Read my reply above to Dark_Art.

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rtcvb32: As for the distros of choice, probably mainline ones. Mint (as mentioned, probably XFCE since it's suppose to be lightweight), Debian, Slackware, Ubuntu (Which mint says it's a variant of Ubuntu in the version... so...), and then MiniOS which is a suped up variant of Slax (uses modules, add a module and software is installed, disable it and it was never even there, also compressed and runs liveUSB, You can even make your own modules by saving changes and then removing/modifying unneeded stuff)
Interesting info, thanks for this.
Post edited July 16, 2024 by JacobSlatter
Most Linux distros differ on customization. There are only a few package managers and desktop environments. In fact when I passed from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch, I always kept the home folder, deleting only those files and folders related with the DE.
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JacobSlatter: If I may ask, do you ever have trouble choosing what game to play or film to watch? Good ol choice paralysis in action.
Maybe I sometimes do, but I consider it more as a positive "problem" that makes my stomach tingle nicely. It is like going to a whorehouse and having to select between 12 gorgeous ladies, instead of one who looks meh.
Post edited July 16, 2024 by timppu
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OlivawR: In fact when I passed from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch, I always kept the home folder, deleting only those files and folders related with the DE.
Speaking of, I didn't make my home folder big enough. Does anyone know if I can have two home partitions for the same account and distro or do I need to fiddle with Gparted? And if it's the latter then how can I do so without having to remove my current home partition?
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timppu: Maybe I sometimes do, but I consider it more as a positive "problem" that makes my stomach tingle nicely. It is like going to a whorehouse and having to select between 12 gorgeous ladies, instead of one who looks meh,
Ever have the negative version where you can't pick or can't pick easily, so you replay something for the umpteenth time?
Post edited July 16, 2024 by JacobSlatter
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JacobSlatter: Same with OS, many just want something that works and would rather spend more time tweaking their programs and games.
Sorry for quoting again, it's not a personal pick or something but I find the quote above very amusing.
I can only talk about my experience of course, but every time I install windows 10 for myself, I spend hours upon hours of tweaking just getting it to work for my use case (many times with 3rd party programs).

I did install a Linux based distro a couple of days ago and other than configuring the desktop (gnome modified) to my liking, all the time I spent was waiting for the pretended programs to download since I was on a 400KB/s internet.

Not that what I do means anything to other people :)
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clarry: Ok.. I guess these people would never buy a book or a movie or a game or a bicycle or a car or a home or get an education or a job because there are too many to choose from.
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JacobSlatter: For the average book reader which do they usually have more of, books or bookcases? And how many bookcases do people usually look through before picking one? Not too many for most people i'd wager. It's the books that are important, and not as much the case holding them.
So if you don't care about the bookcase, just keep using Windows.

Try to understand that people go for Linux precisely because they want something different. And different people want different things.

If you're not happy with the bookcase and you want something different, there had better be a bunch of choices on the market! It would be quite sad if some elitist dictator declared that there can only be three kinds and that must be enough for everyone and making more is a hindering.

In my case, after a bunch of searching, I couldn't find a bookcase that fit my requirements so I built my own. That's how important it was. And just like that, people and companies build their own Linux distributions because the existing ones don't fit their needs. The fact that people are creating alternatives and even sharing them with the world is a good thing. Unless you don't care.. in which case, just keep using Windows.
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Dark_art_: Sorry for quoting again, it's not a personal pick or something but I find the quote above very amusing.
I can only talk about my experience of course, but every time I install windows 10 for myself, I spend hours upon hours of tweaking just getting it to work for my use case (many times with 3rd party programs).
I like to do the same more or less, but people like us are the minority.
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JacobSlatter: If I may ask, do you ever have trouble choosing what game to play or film to watch? Good ol choice paralysis in action. Sometimes it affects sopme choices and not others. Btw I have tried manjaro, beyond sopme game install issues it seems nice for web browsing and media viewing.
I see. You have a choice paralysis which Linux distribution you are using. You don't seem to have this choice paralysis when you choose the alt account to use for this forum. Is there a reason for this why the choice paralysis is absent here?
Post edited July 16, 2024 by foad01
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JacobSlatter: Ever have the negative version where you can't pick or can't pick easily, so you replay something for the umpteenth time?
I don't think so, usually the reason to replay something old is because I don't want to deal with trying to learn a new game, and I am unsure if I will like that new game (while I know I like the game I've already played). It doesn't have that much to do with having too many choices of unfamiliar games.

With movies or TV series it is even less of a problem because you don't have to "learn" to watch a new movie or TV series. At least I don't recall ever e.g. in Rakuten TV (streaming service) selecting some movie I've already seen, instead of trying to watch a new one that sounds interesting by its description.

I sometimes don't watch if fully though, e.g. I started watching some thriller called "The Ledge" (2022) which sounded somewhat interesting by its description, but it had too strong B-class movie feeling and too cliched where I felt I can tell how the movie will go, so I stopped watching maybe already after 30 minutes.

Avatar 2 has had a similar fate so far, I watched it for some time and felt "god damn this is boring to watch", and switched away from it. Maybe later.

But then I start watching something unknown to me like "Upgrade" (2018) or "Skyline" (2010) or "KickAss" or "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World" or "The Edge" or "Colombiana" which grabs me by the balls and twirls me over its head, and I just keep watching till the end glued to the TV.
Post edited July 16, 2024 by timppu
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JacobSlatter: Maybe I didn't word it right before. I don't want to see all distros combined into one, I just think having all the talent spread across 100 or so distros is hindering more than helping.
You are just not getting it, are you alt? I'm starting to think you're not arguing in good faith...

For a new user, there aren't one hundred distros or more to choose from. I would argue there might be a dozen at most, that they will hear about, nevermind be recommended. These Top 10 distros will have the most users, support, and resources on the internetz to do anything (literally) you want with it.

I mean, look at GOG, or even Steam. Their Linux content is only supported with Ubuntu. No other distro! How can you reconcile that with you "muh over 100 distros paralyses me from picking one"??

Could it be that there's actually not much difference between the distros? Could it be that for gaming, you can literally pick any of the popular ones and be done with it, and your games will work? Could it be that any one of them will still be Linux, and thus have all the benefits it has compared to Windows? Any one of them.

Think about that. Take it slowly. Then think about it some more. Then reply.

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JacobSlatter: At any rate I would like to see an actual serious competitor to windows.
Literally Linux. Haven't you been paying attention to the past 143 replies to your comments?

In any case, it's not about a competitor, especially on the desktop. Microsoft makes a fraction of their revenue from the desktop, and Linux is FOSS so it's a little bit hard for them to compete ;)

And if it's about a direct plug-in replacement for Windows - then look elsewhere. Linux isn't supposed to be Windows. And that's a good thing. Why mimic something inferior?

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foad01: I see. You have a choice paralysis which Linux distribution you are using. You don't seem to have this choice paralysis when you choose the alt account to use for this forum. Is there a reason for this why the choice paralysis is absent here?
Nice one xD I'm not sure why he's being fed so much and getting all that attention, nomnomnom.
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JacobSlatter: If I may ask, do you ever have trouble choosing what game to play or film to watch? Good ol choice paralysis in action. Sometimes it affects sopme choices and not others. Btw I have tried manjaro, beyond sopme game install issues it seems nice for web browsing and media viewing.
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foad01: I see. You have a choice paralysis which Linux distribution you are using. You don't seem to have this choice paralysis when you choose the alt account to use for this forum. Is there a reason for this why the choice paralysis is absent here?
If you have choice paralysis, go with Linux Mint. Just an opinion, but it's pretty easy to get into and is well supported. I've used the 32 and 64 bit versions and other than the ramdrive limitations they worked great.

Some distros are just different versions of the same distro, with some tools pre-installed. The core GNU/Linux distro is going to be the base OS, Linux kernel (optional hardware specific module drivers), and probably XWindows and a window manager (Gnome, XFCE, or the like). You can then select which packages you want. Apt will automatically select dependencies if you are missing them. But installing a minimal 200Mb OS and then downloading and installing another 2Gb of programs tools themes and other accessories seems silly, and may be easier to just do a full distro package instead.

Now if you were doing something specific, programming specific hardware, running Apache/Webserver/gamebox or something, then a limited system preconfigured for that would probably be better rather than a generic system desktop.
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OlivawR: In fact when I passed from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch, I always kept the home folder, deleting only those files and folders related with the DE.
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JacobSlatter: Speaking of, I didn't make my home folder big enough. Does anyone know if I can have two home partitions for the same account and distro or do I need to fiddle with Gparted? And if it's the latter then how can I do so without having to remove my current home partition?
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timppu: Maybe I sometimes do, but I consider it more as a positive "problem" that makes my stomach tingle nicely. It is like going to a whorehouse and having to select between 12 gorgeous ladies, instead of one who looks meh,
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JacobSlatter: Ever have the negative version where you can't pick or can't pick easily, so you replay something for the umpteenth time?
My home folder is eating around 2gb of space if I exclude my virtual machines images and the flatpaks. Are you sure you didn't make root (/) too small? Changing the home directory size depends on the folder structure you've created when you installed the OS.
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timppu: I don't think so, usually the reason to replay something old is because I don't want to deal with trying to learn a new game, and I am unsure if I will like that new game (while I know I like the game I've already played). It doesn't have that much to do with having too many choices of unfamiliar games.
I was mainly curious if you suffered choice paralysis elsewhere, since you didn't seem to in regards to OS choices. Beyond that this was an interesting reply to read so thanks.
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OlivawR: My home folder is eating around 2gb of space if I exclude my virtual machines images and the flatpaks. Are you sure you didn't make root (/) too small? Changing the home directory size depends on the folder structure you've created when you installed the OS.
I'm dual booting and I put the space for the linux partitions right after the space used for windows C drive. I made 100GB of space unallocated on my SSD and then made a boot partition of 1GB, a partition for ram of 16GB, a root partition of 45GB, and a home partition of 38GB. I want to try some bigger games on linux but don't have enough space.
Post edited July 16, 2024 by JacobSlatter
One way to test Linux distros is DistroSea:

https://distrosea.com/
Post edited July 16, 2024 by foad01
Shouldn't have fed the trolls. Back to being ontopic.
Post edited July 16, 2024 by JacobSlatter