Posted November 01, 2021
It was just a tasteless joke, since I suspect Geralt was sort of trolling again. tbh I don't even know what OLED is, my laptop is ten years old, so I'm behind the times.
morolf
I own Komodo dragons as pets
Registered: Aug 2012
From Germany
P-E-S
I like games
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted November 01, 2021
I'd take mini LED over OLED any day. Good luck finding a mini LED monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg though. =/
Post edited November 01, 2021 by Mr.Mumbles
topolla
New User
Registered: Nov 2013
From Poland
Posted November 01, 2021
BUT:
- continuity of colors is a joke;
- dark places are darker for huge contrast feeling but you can't see details (new LCD displays have the same problem);
- Motion interpolation is garbage (image glitch, fade, teleport objects or theatrical movement);
- and you need it even in 120Hz TV if you want to see moving objects (I didn't have to use any motion enhancement technology on my old TV, even for fast, low-quality scenes);
- for games I have only one specific setup, if I change something lags may appear, blur, judder etc. (120 Hz "gaming TV");
- for everything else I have set several settings and I'm changing between them many times a day (old TV has one and there was no reason to change anything with one exception but too long to explain).
I can sit 20cm from CRT for hours but I can't watch this unnaturally high contrast with hundreds strong lights directly aimed at the eye on OLED. I must admit that this is very individual.
I have OLED for 1,5 years. New LCD displays from the same company as my old one TV are worse but have plenty of up-to-date apps.
A stupid time when any device is for everything, but not good enough at what they should be made for.
I'm not sure about the technical language, so I call it my way and mark by italic.
Everything changes if your OLED displays 4K HDR Dolby Visual ATM STV UVB OGR RH+ LPG HDR10 awesome material.
dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted November 01, 2021
C'mon, you're supposed to be on the cutting art of state of the edge technology, aren't you?
So where's your Organic light-emitting transistor TV? Or do you plan to go for Ferroelectric liquid crystal display?
Personally, I'm still waiting on those future concepts that showed up in Popular Science. Like that Volumetric display that allowed an isometric view of a basketball game or those wall panels that were conceptualized to be able to display images.
So where's your Organic light-emitting transistor TV? Or do you plan to go for Ferroelectric liquid crystal display?
Personally, I'm still waiting on those future concepts that showed up in Popular Science. Like that Volumetric display that allowed an isometric view of a basketball game or those wall panels that were conceptualized to be able to display images.
ReynardFox
Insert quote here.
Registered: Dec 2010
From Australia
Posted November 01, 2021
high rated
OLED has burn in problems and has a short lifespan thanks to the organic components, it's only the future for those invested in forced obsolescence. We need better tech than this.
amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
TheNamelessOne_PL
"You are but a mat, compared to my power"
Registered: May 2017
From Poland
Posted November 01, 2021
low rated
Anyone who buys an OLED display is getting scammed, big-time.
You are the same guy who told me Blu-Ray is useless despite the objective fact that streaming services are kind of trash and offer shit quality of 30 mbps compared to 80mbps, so I won't treat you as an authority.
Have you ever had an OLED and had a burn in?
Lillesort131
асеоοрѕΑΒСΕНΗІΚКМΜΝΟΡРЅТΤ
Registered: Jun 2013
From Denmark
Posted November 01, 2021
high rated
Really? Which kind of infinity are we talking about? Real infinity? Complex infinity? What does it even mean for a ratio, which is necessarily a number, to be infinite? Are we working in the extended real line? The one-point compactification of the complex numbers?
You cannot just specify “infinite” without also describing exactly which infinity you mean.
Ancient-Red-Dragon: OLED is garbage. It suffers from burn in, and also, it's components die out after a few years since they are organic. And it's ludicrously expensive despite it being trash.
Anyone who buys an OLED display is getting scammed, big-time.
Jon_Irenicus_PL: You won't get a burn in,.unless you are watching cable TV (which nobody really does nowadays) or if you keep the same menu displayed over time. Aha, so I won't get burn-in unless I do. Yes, and a tautology is a tautology. If you haven't noticed, there exists these things called “user interfaces”, which by design doesn't move around much, and therefore can cause burn-in by displaying the same image, at least in some places.
No, because I have not had an OLED screen. But that doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist -- for example, I have never eaten rat poison, yet I am fairly certain that that would be harmful, and therefore I won't do it.
You cannot just specify “infinite” without also describing exactly which infinity you mean.
Anyone who buys an OLED display is getting scammed, big-time.
No, because I have not had an OLED screen. But that doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist -- for example, I have never eaten rat poison, yet I am fairly certain that that would be harmful, and therefore I won't do it.
teceem
Ack Ack Ack!
Registered: Apr 2013
From Belgium
pds41
New User
Registered: May 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted November 01, 2021
Anyone who buys an OLED display is getting scammed, big-time.
You are the same guy who told me Blu-Ray is useless despite the objective fact that streaming services are kind of trash and offer shit quality of 30 mbps compared to 80mbps, so I won't treat you as an authority.
Have you ever had an OLED and had a burn in?
Screen burn and image retention come from a number of uses.
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000149894/preventing-or-removing-image-burn-in-image-retention-or-ghosting-on-my-dell-lcd-tv
Many people watch cable or network TV for 4+ hours a day. Consumers in the US (the home market for Prime, Netflix and Apple) watch more network TV than streaming
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/nielsen-streaming-makes-up-only-26percent-of-time-spent-in-front-of-tv.html
For many real world examples of image retention and burn, check out this 230 page thread, which includes the person who got image retention of the black bars from watching cinemascope films on a streaming service:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/oled-screen-burn-permanent-image-retention.2056624/
If you must keep posting about technology that you've just "discovered" and quite frankly don't understand, try joining AVForums. Of course, they might be more... robust at correcting your errors.
So, as with every other tech question that you've asked (4K, HDR, building your own GPU, whether you need to upgrade, whether it's not worth gaming unless you've got a 3080), the answer is an obvious and unsurprising no.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by pds41
TheNamelessOne_PL
"You are but a mat, compared to my power"
Registered: May 2017
From Poland
Posted November 01, 2021
low rated
You cannot just specify “infinite” without also describing exactly which infinity you mean.
As for your complaints about the semantics of the word infinity:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophist weird that you got upvoted for being one
Rat poison is a bad example, as killing stuff is its purpose.
You are the same guy who told me Blu-Ray is useless despite the objective fact that streaming services are kind of trash and offer shit quality of 30 mbps compared to 80mbps, so I won't treat you as an authority.
Have you ever had an OLED and had a burn in?
Screen burn and image retention come from a number of uses.
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000149894/preventing-or-removing-image-burn-in-image-retention-or-ghosting-on-my-dell-lcd-tv
Many people watch cable or network TV for 4+ hours a day. Consumers in the US (the home market for Prime, Netflix and Apple) watch more network TV than streaming
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/nielsen-streaming-makes-up-only-26percent-of-time-spent-in-front-of-tv.html
For many real world examples of image retention and burn, check out this 230 page thread, which includes the person who got image retention of the black bars from watching cinemascope films on a streaming service:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/oled-screen-burn-permanent-image-retention.2056624/
If you must keep posting about technology that you've just "discovered" and quite frankly don't understand, try joining AVForums. Of course, they might be more... robust at correcting your errors.
So, as with every other tech question that you've asked (4K, HDR, building your own GPU, whether you need to upgrade, whether it's not worth gaming unless you've got a 3080), the answer is an obvious and unsurprising no.
If he got image retention, then that will go away, he just needs to watch some 1.78:1 and he will be fine
Rtings.com say image burn in is not a problem
Post edited November 01, 2021 by Jon_Irenicus_PL
§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted November 01, 2021
Is there still an image fading problem with OLEDs. How long do the light pixels last before they lose their strength?
idbeholdME
Doomed Space Marine
Registered: Jun 2016
From Czech Republic
Posted November 01, 2021
https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g?t=61
Not a problem though.... With several tricks, jumping through hoops and careful babysitting, you can squeeze a couple of years at best out of an overpriced product before having to buy a new one. Until this is somehow resolved, it will never become a mainstream product, especially for gaming.
Not a problem though.... With several tricks, jumping through hoops and careful babysitting, you can squeeze a couple of years at best out of an overpriced product before having to buy a new one. Until this is somehow resolved, it will never become a mainstream product, especially for gaming.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by idbeholdME
pds41
New User
Registered: May 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted November 01, 2021
high rated
If he got image retention, then that will go away, he just needs to watch some 1.78:1 and he will be fine
Rtings.com say image burn in is not a problem
A review website might say that image burn in is not a problem, but how about you read those 230 pages of real world examples? If you want to debate this, try AVForums; they're tech specialists and might be more receptive to your current fads.
Also, while this could be considered to be off-topic, a word to the wise: perhaps you should look at how you talk to the other forum users before you criticise responses that you get.
Anyway, back on topic to the thread, the answer to your main question is "Of course it isn't". Or possibly "There's nothing that normal consumers need to be saved from". I can't quite decide, so you get two for the price of one. How's that for value.
Great video - a very good summary of the issues that OP will face.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by pds41
ZocomMAX
Indeed!
Registered: Oct 2012
From Canada
Posted November 01, 2021
Not a problem though.... With several tricks, jumping through hoops and careful babysitting, you can squeeze a couple of years at best out of an overpriced product before having to buy a new one. Until this is somehow resolved, it will never become a mainstream product, especially for gaming.
I worry for this so thank god I covered my purchase on issues like this and hope that one day they can rid of this problem.
I have yet moved to OLED when I saw issues with the major burn in :/