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DCT: So in short If it can or can not check to see if there is a current up to date installer or not is for the sake of my counter point irrelevant. Since we are not talking about the here and now we are talking about the near future. So if it still doesn't by time it's out of Beta fine, but it's still a weak counter point to mine either way.
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mrkgnao: Have you seen a GOG announcement that says that they plan to add this up-to-date check to galaxy? Can you link to it, please?

If it's not planned, then the difference is huge, potentially between downloading more one than terabyte of data versus zero (if nothing changed).
Okay your seriously comming off as though your just looking for something to pick at and it's really annoying.

1. Logic would state that if something already had a feature that they would put it into the newer product and
2. I recall one of the blues actually saying they were going to put it in, can I link it? no because I really have better things to do then sit here and dig through pages and pages of posts to find one thing to please you. If you believe me or not is irrelevant, since I got nothing to prove to you and as I said you seem like the nitpicky sort anyway.
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DCT: 1. Logic would state that if something already had a feature that they would put it into the newer product...
Like manual sorting for the account system?
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PaterAlf: Like manual sorting for the account system?
(*^-‘) 乃
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JudasIscariot: From our Galaxy page:

8. Will you still support GOG downloader? Will you develop it further?

We won't disable the GOG downloader on launch day, but we will no longer actively support it. The downloader may be affected as we continue updating our infrastructure, but we don't plan to disable it intentionally.
If you're not actively discontinuing it, it would be nice if the links weren't quite as hidden. I still use the downloader for backup purposes and it's now quite a pain to access the download links.
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mrkgnao: Have you seen a GOG announcement that says that they plan to add this up-to-date check to galaxy? Can you link to it, please?
Not specifically, but read this. I guess the downloader portion of Galaxy currently can be considered particularly feature incomplete.
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DCT: Just like having two programs that serve the exact same purpose is pretty redundant and pointless.
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MarkoH01: I already told you that Galaxy does downlaod other files than the GOG downloader. I've tested it myself.
With which game did this happen?

I just downloaded the Black Mirror 3 installer files (.exe and .bin) and extras with both GOG Downloader and Galaxy, and both downloaded the exact same files, as far as I can tell. At least md5sums are identical for the .exe and .bin in both downloads. These are the md5sums I got in both cases:

setup_black_mirror3_2.0.0.5.exe = 9bbedd192bbaf4a69056e9b74a5e43cd

setup_black_mirror3_2.0.0.5-1.bin = aa0add4dd5e1863a5dd8fc622f811074

I didn't check the md5sums for the extras (manuals), but they appeared identical too, ie. the same filename and filesize.
Post edited May 25, 2015 by timppu
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mrkgnao: Have you seen a GOG announcement that says that they plan to add this up-to-date check to galaxy? Can you link to it, please?
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Gydion: Not specifically, but read this. I guess the downloader portion of Galaxy currently can be considered particularly feature incomplete.
Thank you. I hope they do implement it, for those (not me) that have been using the GOG downloader and are now gently driven into galaxy's embrace.
Post edited May 25, 2015 by mrkgnao
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MarkoH01: I already told you that Galaxy does downlaod other files than the GOG downloader. I've tested it myself.
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timppu: With which game did this happen?

I just downloaded the Black Mirror 3 installer files (.exe and .bin) and extras with both GOG Downloader and Galaxy, and both downloaded the exact same files, as far as I can tell. At least md5sums are identical for the .exe and .bin in both downloads. These are the md5sums I got in both cases:

setup_black_mirror3_2.0.0.5.exe = 9bbedd192bbaf4a69056e9b74a5e43cd

setup_black_mirror3_2.0.0.5-1.bin = aa0add4dd5e1863a5dd8fc622f811074

I didn't check the md5sums for the extras (manuals), but they appeared identical too, ie. the same filename and filesize.
Sorry, I didn't realize that there is now a possibility to download the same files the GOG downloader did. This wasn't implemented the last time I checked Galaxy. So for now - yes, Galaxy does the same thing as the downloader does - it only uses much more resources to do it.
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DCT: No it is redundant, since it's a program that does the EXACT SAME THING as Galaxy does. All Galaxy really is, is just a downloader with optional client features and a different UI. It downloads the games/installers like the downloader does and can be completely ignored once you done that unless you want to play a online multiplayer game that uses the Galaxy.API. So again, yes the downloader is redundant.
technically you are right; but personnaly i DON'T want to use a client which have or will have so many functions to just download the standalone installers... go it ?

It's like using Photoshop when you only need the Paint functionnalities (sorry for the example , but that's what came in my mind at first)

When GOG made a poll about the client ; i said why not ; IF and only IF they will release a small app based on the download function for the standalone installers inside Galaxy...

So in short if the downloader become obselete for some technicals reasons , i suggest to GOG to create a small app which remplace the actual downloader..... because as i said some people don't really need all those functionnalties.----> but in the end why scapping the downloader...

And yes GOG will force us to use the client , if some users have some problems while downloading a large file , the browser isn't a good soluion....in this case the word optional is no more optional.... i got some problems in the past downloading some large file with the browser ...

We understood you LOVE Galaxy ; but you should understand some of us want a simple tool to backup the installers. There's no real logic in it; it's just a matter of simplictiy. I already read all the arguments coming from some of you and the devs...so i know your argurments and Destro never replied about my argument i just explained "again"...so i'm starting to be really upset..
Post edited May 25, 2015 by DyNaer
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DCT: No it is redundant, since it's a program that does the EXACT SAME THING as Galaxy does. All Galaxy really is, is just a downloader with optional client features and a different UI. It downloads the games/installers like the downloader does and can be completely ignored once you done that unless you want to play a online multiplayer game that uses the Galaxy.API. So again, yes the downloader is redundant.
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DyNaer: technically you are right; but personnaly i DON'T want to use a client which have or will have so many functions to just download the standalone installers... go it ?

It's like using Phostoshop when you only need the Paint functionnalities (sorry for the example , but that's what came in my mind at first)

When GOG made a poll about the client ; i said why not ; IF and only IF they will release a small app based on the download function for the standalone installers inside Galaxy...

So in short if the downloader become obselete for some technicals reasons , i suggest to GOG to create a small app which remplace the actual downloader..... because as i said some people don't really need all those functionnalties.----> but in the end why scapping the downloader...

And yes GOG will force us to use the client , if some users have some problems while downloading a large file , the browser isn't a good soluion....in this case the word obsolete became obsolete itself.

We understood you LOVE Galaxy ; but you should understand some of us want a simple tool to backup the installers. There's no real logic in it; it's just a matter of simplictiy. I already read all the arguments coming from some of you and the devs...so i know your argurments and Destro never replied about my argument i just explained "again"...so i'm starting to be really upset....how some customers are treated.
Oh I got it, it's still stupid as hell and silly.

First off I don't "Love" Galaxy, I personally see it as nothing more then a tool for downloading my games, I really don't care too much about social features, achievements, and all that stuff but I think it's great that those options are their for those who do care for them and they can be ignored and disabled for those like me who don't. I am just not getting upset or bothered by crap that I don't care for and can ignore, I may have slight OCD but I am not that crazy. Now I can see what your arguement is but let's be brutally honest it's silly. You want something simple fine you got that, so what if it has the option to do other crap, it's not like you have to use it for anything else but downloading.

But you know what you don't like it, fine. Your entitled too but don't get pissed off that a company who is in business to make money doesn't want to waste it catering to a small minority of it's user base. Keeping both the downloader up to date as well as Galaxy is going to cost them time and money and when push comes to shove there are more people who don't care or are fine with Galaxy then those who want to have the old downloader around because of whatever silly reasons and I highly doubt the amount of people who feel the way you do is enough to justify the costs to GOG in the end if they were to maintain both downloader and Galaxy.

Now no one says or should say that you or anyone else isn't entiled to have a opinion or make suggestions and have every right to say it but in the long run A. no one has to care or pay attention to it, B. no one has to take it into consideration and if they do they don't have to do it.
Post edited May 25, 2015 by DCT
GOG Downloader has never really worked for me personally, and besides being redundant due to Galaxy, it was always irrelevent because you can use any random download manger you want to download the installer files.
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BrandeX: GOG Downloader has never really worked for me personally, and besides being redundant due to Galaxy, it was always irrelevent because you can use any random download manger you want to download the installer files.
are you sure about any downloader manager working ? i thought i wasn't the case... unless i didn't read well
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DyNaer: So in short if the downloader become obselete for some technicals reasons , i suggest to GOG to create a small app which remplace the actual downloader.....
Considering even the GOG Downloader was lacking in multiple ways, I'm kinda hoping for a third-party downloader utility. Mainly one which would make it feasible to (re-)download all my GOG games (976), if needed.

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DyNaer: And yes GOG will force us to use the client , if some users have some problems while downloading a large file , the browser isn't a good soluion....in this case the word optional is no more optional.... i got some problems in the past downloading some large file with the browser ...
In that case the old GOG Downloader client was never optional to you either, right? Sure GOG always offered the option to download with a web browser (like they still do), but since that wasn't a real option to you specifically...
O.K. - let's all take a deep breath take a step back and think about the arguments.

1) The word "optional" maybe was taken by me a bit too narrow meaning that nothing would change if I don't want it to. Using alternative downloaders like Jdownloader and such still would be an alternative to Galaxy so I agree that I was maybe reacting a bit too harsh regarding GOG not supporting my beloved GOG downloader anymore.

2) I do understand that a company is not able to support every technology they ever invented if the new technology is able to do the same (as I stated before, I did not know that Galaxy meanwhile is able to download the same installer files the downloader does).

3) But there is still the argument DyNaer has brought up which in my opinion is not "silly" but totally valid. You don't fire up a program like Corel paint just to take a screenshot and Galaxy does take a whole lot of resources at the moment (sure they will optimize it in the future but it still will take a lot more resources than any downloader ever would use). So if I only want to use Galaxy for downloading some files this would also mean that I use a lot of resources which could mean having problems doeing some other PC stuff while only downloading. So where would be the problem to do something like DyNaer said and give the option (there is that word again ;)) to start Galaxy without all those resource costing features - just a small part of Galaxy to be able to download games?

And please let's not call other arguments "silly" or "stupid" just because they are not your opinion. Let's keep this civil, it's just a discussion.
Post edited May 25, 2015 by MarkoH01
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BrandeX: GOG Downloader has never really worked for me personally, and besides being redundant due to Galaxy, it was always irrelevent because you can use any random download manger you want to download the installer files.
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DyNaer: are you sure about any downloader manager working ? i thought i wasn't the case... unless i didn't read well
I use Downthemall! Firefox plugin download manager program. I have not found Galaxy to be reliable at d/l'ing and installing either.