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mechmouse: If a game lacks LAN play, its not GoG's fault for giving the developers the tools for Hosted services, its the developers Fault for not including LAN.
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Pheace: This I *absolutely* disagree with.

If GOG's going to be offering developers convenient 'pre-made' multiplayer matchmaking to developers I *am* going to fault GOG for not including a convenient LAN/Direct connect option because the likelyhood of a developer putting extra Dev effort into multiplayer after picking up a pre-made matchmaking system is extremely low, and you're not going to tell me GOG isn't aware of that.

It's obviously not *entirely* their fault, since the dev opts to use it, but GOG is certainly making it easier to ignore for them by offering what they have.
Fewer and fewer games have been including LAN in the past few years, ever since Steamworks became appealing to developers. In fact, some games which used to have LAN had this function removed and replaced entirely by Steamworks when GameSpy shut down, such as idiots at Relic doing it for Company of Heroes 1 and WH40K: Dawn of War 1.
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0Grapher: My first thought when I saw these new releases was: They must have planned to release incredibly popular games after making a very controversial move so as to appease many that might have left.
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HypersomniacLive: GOG always does this, but it's the reverse - they dish out announcements of controversial decisions shortly before they release titles that are in high demand.
The part about it being the reverse confused me a bit at first because that doesn't contradict what I meant. . :)

Do you know more examples on the top of your head?
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0Grapher: The part about it being the reverse confused me a bit at first because that doesn't contradict what I meant. . :)

Do you know more examples on the top of your head?
What I meant is that it's not that they schedule announcements of controversial decisions around planned releases of games in high demand, and not the other way around. The goal and purpose is the same in terms of end result, of course.

Regarding your question, I have to give it a bit of thought, and do some digging in order to recall specific examples and be accurate. I'll keep your post link, and get back to you on this.
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clarry: GOG is niche enough as it is, and lots of publishers & developers seem to have little incentive to bring their games here because your pennies don't matter really.
Yeah xD

While majority, if not all, GoG users are here because they like what GOG has to offer e.g DRM free, in the gaming world GoG is nothing when compared to Steam. Even Dota players alone is enough to surpass the number of GoG users xD

And GoG's catalog is still minuscule. They might be able to have Dragon Dogma (like latest AAA), but the real meat like Nier: Automata or Football Manager series are out of reach. These games have cult following and they will stick with Steam since only Steam has it.

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phaolo: Without some quality control you'll end up like Steam: full of crap clones, asset-flips, kids' first games, buggy and unfinished products, etc..
I wouldn't be too happy if Gog decided to "open the gates" too.
If they did, however, I hope they'd keep such low-tier games well separated from the main catalog and homepage.
And if by strict control means something like GoG's library, then I'd stick with Steam's Greenlight altogether...

If anything, it means option. Option to buy garbage, or option to find gem, than none at all.
Post edited June 07, 2017 by zeroxxx
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clarry: GOG is niche enough as it is, and lots of publishers & developers seem to have little incentive to bring their games here because your pennies don't matter really.
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zeroxxx: Yeah xD

While majority, if not all, GoG users are here because they like what GOG has to offer e.g DRM free, in the gaming world GoG is nothing when compared to Steam. Even Dota players alone is enough to surpass the number of GoG users xD

And GoG's catalog is still minuscule. They might be able to have Dragon Dogma (like latest AAA), but the real meat like Nier: Automata or Football Manager series are out of reach. These games have cult following and they will stick with Steam since only Steam has it.

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phaolo: Without some quality control you'll end up like Steam: full of crap clones, asset-flips, kids' first games, buggy and unfinished products, etc..
I wouldn't be too happy if Gog decided to "open the gates" too.
If they did, however, I hope they'd keep such low-tier games well separated from the main catalog and homepage.
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zeroxxx: And if by strict control means something like GoG's library, then I'd stick with Steam's Greenlight altogether...

If anything, it means option. Option to buy garbage, or option to find gem, than none at all.
The problem with too much option is that you cant see the trees because the forrest is blocking your field of vision.
Its like beeing in junk jard full of junk trying to discover the few gems that exists.
Unless you are into that sort of thing or like doing junkjard jobs you will pretty fast get burned out as a regular custommer trying to dig up the few gems you can find.

Valve have said they are working on something to solve the problem
it remains to be seen if their solution will fix the problem.
Post edited June 07, 2017 by Lodium
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phaolo: Without some quality control...
I reject this "quality" control. GOG has yet to offer any significant amount of Visual Novels, while Steam does. What is the damn point of DRM-free, when the store refuses to offer content? GOG is a disappointment, and will stay that way if they continue to foist their opinions of what is "quality" upon their customers.

Steam lets me choose the games I want to play.
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Onglar: I'll be completely honest, I'm not in the mood to read through all the bickering about this topic throughout the forum, but from what i've read people are worrying GOG is trying to become more like Steam.

I'm sure we share the same reasoning as to why we've moved from Steam, Uplay or whatever. So no reason to go into much detail about that regarding DRM, offline play, offline installers, optional client etc etc. But let's just say i appreciate this freedom so much i have RE-BOUGHT a lot of games i already owned.

What is the general consensus regarding all this? It really is worrying me.
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GR00T: It's worrying many of us. Depends on your point of view (optimistic or pessimistic), but what you listed seems to be where GOG is moving. Still DRM-free as of now, but some of us wonder how long that's going to last with the way they're trying to push Galaxy so hard.
Funny how they pushed it as OPTIONAL CLIENT with FREEDOM OF CHOICE as the slogan for Galaxy and now it's like IF YOU DON'T DOWNLOAD THIS YOU WILL GET THE BELT in some senses. I hate how already they are pushing site features to gog exclusive already... so that means something is up.
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MajicMan: Nobody is arguing against Galaxy or GOG having a client. It is only that Galaxy is now forced and no longer optional.

I downloaded Kerbal and of course it didn't run without Galaxy, because you know GOG had to F*** it up. I

I finally got Galaxy working, and a (not so) funny thing I noticed - even though I only launched it once and never signed in at all, when I closed Galaxy it was still running, Yup, it was closed and I had no programs opened, but check in the process section of Task Manager and that Mother F*cker was still running and chewing up resources.

As of right now, myself and nobody else can just download our games DRM free anymore. And GOG saying they need time make a "Classic" download option is total horse sh*t. Every game on GOG didn't have Galaxy prior so now all the other versions are gone? BS.
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UnrealDelusion: You do know there is an option in the settings of Galaxy that when you close the client it also no longer runs in the background, don't you?
I do now, but as I never logged in I never had any settings to set up or saw any of the options. I have no desire to use Galaxy. I don't need it for my gaming experience. I don't need it for the Witcher series, Legend of Heroes series, Kerbal, Shantae series, Darksiders series, KOTOR series, Mini Metro, Olli Olli series, Legend of Grimrock series, Bastion, Pier Solar, Rogue Legacy,, Vulgar,and the other several hundred single single-player games I bought here.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I think they're hoping we'll all be happy going client only eventually for GOG. And it's getting over like a fart in church.
That fart would be EPIC!
Where's my to-do-before-I-die list...
Well GOG doesn't support trashing their store with a bazillion trash visual novel games, so we have that going.

I think the bigger problem is the growing psychology of "I HAVE to have this game" at all costs, leading to so much piracy on the platform easiest to get a game for free causing so much drm measures. Sure we can point fingers at companies but the blame game goes both ways.
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Pangaea666: Either you have principles, or you don't. GOG have turned their back on one after the other. The conclusion is unfortunately rather obvious.

They can hide behind whatever excuse they put forward this week, but to some of us actions speak louder than words.
They haven't gone back on their principles at all. because their principals have always been providing DRM free games, and that is what they are still doing with no indication of that ever changing.
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silent49: Well GOG doesn't support trashing their store with a bazillion trash visual novel games, so we have that going.
That is code for "I don't like this genre, it makes me happy that no one gets to enjoy it." It is my hope that people like you never get into positions of authority, because you would deliberately deprive people for your own satisfaction.
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eisberg77: They haven't gone back on their principles at all. because their principals have always been providing DRM free games, and that is what they are still doing with no indication of that ever changing.
Just because DRM-free is the only principle left (and with a giant asterisk and "only applies to offline games; please don't pay attention to Gremlins, Inc in the corner over there" disclaimer written in small print) doesn't mean there weren't others in the past.

[url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/]https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/[/url]
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227: [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/]https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/[/url]
THIS is what it looked like? Holy moly, even the way they talk is mad different.
I can understand some of the viewpoints of the old-timers who say the place isn't what it used to be a lot better now.
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eisberg77: They haven't gone back on their principles at all. because their principals have always been providing DRM free games, and that is what they are still doing with no indication of that ever changing.
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227: Just because DRM-free is the only principle left (and with a giant asterisk and "only applies to offline games; please don't pay attention to Gremlins, Inc in the corner over there" disclaimer written in small print) doesn't mean there weren't others in the past.

[url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/]https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/[/url]
yes, I forgot about the regional pricing. So you would rather miss out on all kinds of DRM frre games that you get an installer for, perhaps GoG eventually have to shut down because they couldn't get more games in their catalog to keep their business going and profitable, just so you can keep a regional pricing (which by the way they make up for it by giving you store credits)?
The regional pricing is being forced on them, and if they want to stay in business it is what they have to do.

So it was either you only see a very small catalog of games, GoG does not make a profit, they go out of buisness and you lose access to your games and just hope that none of your back ups go kaput for some reason

or

They do what they have to do to stay in business, do the regional pricing in order to gain more titles in their catalog, and thus making sure you have continued access for your games through their service.

Which would you prefer.

Cause them going out of business would also be going against their principles in providing an everlasting service for their customers.

So what are they supposed to do when they are forced to choose between 2 of their principles and neither can co-exist?
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227: [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/]https://web.archive.org/web/20110414150425/http://www.gog.com:80/en/about/[/url]
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zeogold: THIS is what it looked like? Holy moly, even the way they talk is mad different.
I can understand some of the viewpoints of the old-timers who say the place isn't what it used to be a lot better now.
Other than the regional price, in which they give in store credit to cover the difference, nothing else has changed. And they were stuck between 2 principles that could not co -exist. Staying in business and giving in store credit was the better option to go.
Post edited June 07, 2017 by eisberg77