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Wishbone: If, like me, you are playing the GOG version of SR3, you will need to do a bit of hacking to migrate your character over to SR4.
Nope. Don' have SR3 on here. playing on Steam. But thanks for the heads up. Ran into a very similar problem in Darksiders.
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eksasol: Your insomnia is part of the problem and needs to be solved first, which is probably part of something else. I would give it a rest and come back when you feel better.

I had this problem for most of 2016, I had the most stress I dealt with in my life. Took a while to get my health back and feel a bit better. Having a good diet and decent sleep helps. Now I feel like I don't have enough time for gaming.
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fortune_p_dawg: indeed. the last time i experienced a bout of insomnia was 2012. no immediate idea why really. i lift weights, eat right (i do like beer on the weekends and a cold coffee in the mornings though), however sometimes i feel that when i get sick, it manifests as insomnia rather than typical symptoms. bleh.
i haven't slept soundly since the election
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fortune_p_dawg: see, the problem is i WANT to game, it's that once i start i end up letting out a sigh and quitting for lack of satisfaction. three weeks ago i had been playing crashlands and enjoying its grindy-ness, until something about the grind-for-new-crafting-parts process became utterly unsatisfying. i was like 20 hours in and normally love grindy games. but, meh.
I probably sank 20 to 30 hours into Crashlands as well, and let me tell you: They're REALLY overdoing it, and this kind of grinding really is something an adult can grow out of.

Maybe try Evoland II, which changes its genre every new dungeon? Reading is of course very worthwhile as well. :)

As to the wicked insomnia, I have only one thing to say: DON'T LOOK AT THE TIME. Never look at the alarm clock trying to calculate how much time you can still spend in bed. Never, it's verboten. That won't heal insomnia, but looking at the time and panicking is the primary reason why people suffer from insomnia even though the actual reason for it has long since passed.


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tinyE: i haven't slept soundly since the election
Neighbour partying too much? :p

But... yeah. I get it. :|
Post edited January 06, 2017 by Vainamoinen
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Breja: I never tire of gaming, but sometimes I have this weird feeling when I'm about to start a new game, that I really don't want to start it, because then I'll have to learn how to play it and that I am tired of- learning how to play new games. Which is stupid, because I like fresh ideas, I like originality, but I guess after all the years of gaming (computer games and tabletop RPGs) I'm just burned out on tutorials, manuals, and all that. So I tend to stick either to games that use mechanics I alredy know (point & click adventure games for example) or games that have perfectly simple "you'll get it in three minutes and learn the lest while playing without even realising it" rules, like Hand of Fate or Guild of Dungeoneering.
I have the same problem. I've solved it by "illegaly" printing game manuals at school (I'm paying them around 50€ every year for copy costs, so I guess that's justified) and reading them while commuting.
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Breja: I never tire of gaming, but sometimes I have this weird feeling when I'm about to start a new game, that I really don't want to start it, because then I'll have to learn how to play it and that I am tired of- learning how to play new games. Which is stupid, because I like fresh ideas, I like originality, but I guess after all the years of gaming (computer games and tabletop RPGs) I'm just burned out on tutorials, manuals, and all that. So I tend to stick either to games that use mechanics I alredy know (point & click adventure games for example) or games that have perfectly simple "you'll get it in three minutes and learn the rest while playing without even realising it" rules, like Hand of Fate or Guild of Dungeoneering.
I think it's the fault of lots of new games these days. They can't hook you and does a poor job introducing their games. For the first 10 hours of Witchers I really did not give a crap about the story at all, which I still don't after 50+ hrs of playing. Fortunately other aspects of the game is good.
Post edited January 07, 2017 by eksasol
Big RPGs can be draining. I've actually been going through smaller indies these days and basic games.
I was really into Most Wanted but it kept crashing at the absolute worst time.

Now I'm back to square one here. :P
It happens at times. What I've found is that it's best not to try to force yourself into it. When enjoying games starts to feel like work, that's when you know you need to take a break and/or a fresh look at this hobby.
I've been struggling to continue Final Fantasy Tactics. I finally finished the first mission... but I have no idea what I am supposed to do next, really. I reached some friendly base near the location of the first mission, talked to everyone I could see there... but I have no idea what to do next. Someone mentioned of a raider base to SW of the current location, so I go wander there sweeping towards SW, but I find nothing. I occasionally fight some random fights with geckos and wild dogs.

Since the game was supposed to be some kind of tactical strategy game (not a real RPG like Fallout 1-2), I was expecting it to be more linear, like "this is mission 1. Ok, next comes this mission 2. Then mission 3.". I am unsure if finding that raider base is the mission 2 I am supposed to perform next?


Generally one problem I have getting into new (to me) games is that... I have heard so many good things about the game beforehand that I have already formed an unrealistic image of it in my mind, and when I finally get to play it, the feeling is more meh because I was expecting more (too much?). It would probably have been better if I hadn't heard anything about the game before playing it... but then how would I have picked that exact game from my vast collection? Of course in many cases you have to play the game longer to "get it" what makes it so special.

A bit like fantasizing about your first time (yes, sex) whole your life, and then when it finally happens, you are more like "meh, I guess it was ok... one milestone in life reached".

And like someone mentioned, learning a new game is always a hurdle. That's why I like games which don't expect me to read a manual for playing the game, but e.g. have good tutorial missions teaching me to play.

Unfortunately, quite often it just feels easier to fire up Team Fortress 2 and play a couple of rounds online. Instant gratification. Even there I have problem getting into new maps, I just want to play the same old maps I already know inside out. When I try a new map, it usually just feels overly complex and no clear understanding what I should be doing, and I become a bit frustrated because I am doing poorly as I don't know the map.
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fortune_p_dawg: also, i've been suffering wicked insomnia too
I hope you get that jungle themed decoration finished in your bedroom soon so that you can sleep well once again.
Post edited January 07, 2017 by timppu
Looking for games in genres you haven't played much could help. I have played mostly strategies and RPGs, but now I enjoy Overwatch.

That is, if your problems were just with games. But you have written also about insomnia, so I am afraid(although I hope I am mistaken) that the issue is more complex then just not finding games satysfying, to be honest.

Good luck in solving your problems :).
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fortune_p_dawg: so what did i replace gaming with? reading mostly. i forgot how much i enjoyed fiction. reading something and getting really into the story is like playing an rpg minus the effort and 'challenge.' also, i've been suffering wicked insomnia too. once bedtime rolls around my energy levels are sooo high.
Have you tried the easier story rich point and click adventures? If you want any recomendations let me know.
Have you played The Witcher 3? It's pure awesomness.
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blotunga: Have you played The Witcher 3? It's pure awesomness.
While that may definitely be the case, it's exactly those 150 hour motherfuckers that are difficult to approach when you start to be fed up with games. :)

I must say, I honestly wonder... if GOG released Oblivion and Skyrim tomorrow, would fortune_p_dawg even...

...no, no, let's not go there. :)
Post edited January 07, 2017 by Vainamoinen
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fortune_p_dawg: see, the problem is i WANT to game, it's that once i start i end up letting out a sigh and quitting for lack of satisfaction. three weeks ago i had been playing crashlands and enjoying its grindy-ness, until something about the grind-for-new-crafting-parts process became utterly unsatisfying. i was like 20 hours in and normally love grindy games. but, meh.

then a few days ago i tried playing stalker call of pripyat (i loved the original) but its janky looseness turned me off despite the awesome setting and moody atmosphere.

so what did i replace gaming with? reading mostly. i forgot how much i enjoyed fiction. reading something and getting really into the story is like playing an rpg minus the effort and 'challenge.' also, i've been suffering wicked insomnia too. once bedtime rolls around my energy levels are sooo high.
What about Heroes of Might & Magic (3) you can Play smal maps or long story based stuff , with follow ups. There are maps that you start with zero Stuff and on others you have everthing so there is a map for every day
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fortune_p_dawg: so what did i replace gaming with? reading mostly. i forgot how much i enjoyed fiction. reading something and getting really into the story is like playing an rpg minus the effort and 'challenge.' also, i've been suffering wicked insomnia too. once bedtime rolls around my energy levels are sooo high.
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supplementscene: Have you tried the easier story rich point and click adventures? If you want any recomendations let me know.
i was thinking that, i need to play a few chill point and clicks and maybe some stardew. a minimal effort type game