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My thoughts and prayers for the people of Texas going through Hurricane Harvey right now. As a Florida guy who has been through more than a dozen hurricanes and tropical storms you have my best wishes and know that help from Florida will be coming to you.

Why do these things always make landfall in the night?

Katrina, Charlie, Hugo, Andrew...
Never having lived in a hurricane zone I have a few silly questions.

She/He just got downgraded back to a tropical storm. Now, while this still means that heavy rain and severe flooding are expected, doesn't it also mean the anxiety of wind damage can be lessened at least a little?

I guess what I mean to ask is, while the long term effects await those folks, aren't they at least clear of the immediate "blast" effects?
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tinyE: Never having lived in a hurricane zone I have a few silly questions.

She/He just got downgraded back to a tropical storm. Now, while this still means that heavy rain and severe flooding are expected, doesn't it also mean the anxiety of wind damage can be lessened at least a little?

I guess what I mean to ask is, while the long term effects await those folks, aren't they at least clear of the immediate "blast" effects?
It depends if you consider downgrading from 100 to 60 MPH really all that much a downstep.
I pity those poor people and I hope there are no major casualties but give the "thoughts and prayers" twitter shite a rest.
I'm just grateful that no one tried used the hurricane as a cover to violating the Constitution.....twice.
TinyE, that depends on the structure. After Andrew hit Florida in '92, building codes in Florida became much stricter. so newer homes and buildings along a beach county and certain miles inland are much stronger.

My home is all concrete block (except the roof), but even the way a roof has to be held down and built is much tougher than most places (if not all other places) I know. So 60 mph wind in a tropical storm doesn't bother me (truth in Florida is we get severe thunder storms often that reach near tropical storm wind gust and rain, just not for as long a period or wide a swath of land). I don't know anybody in my community that boards up for a tropical storm or a Cat 1 Hurricane. Our homes are built after Andrew, concrete block and meet such standards that the thing we all get most pissed about is the rain and knowing we are going to lose power.

Flooding causes way more damage than the wind in most cases now.. A cat 5 is knocking everything down, but anything 3 and below and the flooding will most likely do the most damage, unless it makes landfall in an area with older homes and structures. Like this is the first Cat. 4 to hit Texas in more than 50 years so I am not sure the building code and how many older buildings they have in the area where Harvey made landfall

The thing with Katrina is that the day after she made landfall in Mississippi the headlines were "New Orleans spared", it wasn't until the flood barriers broke the day after that and the flooding happened that it went to shit. Mississippi was in much worse shape from the storm.

My scale
Tropical storm - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere.
Cat 1 - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere - hope I don't lose power.
Cat 2 - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere - Going to lose power, hope it is not for more than a day.
Cat 3 - Serious, need to board up, will be using supplies and losing power. Hope power is back within 2 days.
Cat 4 - This is serious trouble, Need to board up, grab supplies and important docs and possibly leave the house - hope for no flooding and minimal damage.
Cat 5 - Chance my house is gone, need to pack the important docs, photos, grab supplies and stay somewhere else. Hope my house is still standing and only needs repairs and no rebuilds anywhere.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by MajicMan
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MajicMan: TinyE, that depends on the structure. After Andrew hit Florida in '92, building codes in Florida became much stricter. so newer homes and buildings along a beach county and certain miles inland are much stronger.

My home is all concrete block (except the roof), but even the way a roof has to be held down and built is much tougher than most places (if not all other places) I know. So 60 mph wind in a tropical storm doesn't bother me (truth in Florida is we get severe thunder storms often that reach near tropical storm wind gust and rain, just not for as long a period or wide a swath of land). I don't know anybody in my community that boards up for a tropical storm or a Cat 1 Hurricane. Our homes are built after Andrew, concrete block and meet such standards that the thing we all get most pissed about is the rain and knowing we are going to lose power.

Flooding causes way more damage than the wind in most cases now.. A cat 5 is knocking everything down, but anything 3 and below and the flooding will most likely do the most damage, unless it makes landfall in an area with older homes and structures. Like this is the first Cat. 4 to hit Texas in more than 50 years so I am not sure the building code and how many older buildings they have in the area where Harvey made landfall

The thing with Katrina is that the day after she made landfall in Mississippi the headlines were "New Orleans spared", it wasn't until the flood barriers broke the day after that and the flooding happened that it went to shit. Mississippi was in much worse shape from the storm.

My scale
Tropical storm - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere.
Cat 1 - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere - hope I don't lose power.
Cat 2 - Annoyed and want it to move fast so it doesn't flood anywhere - Going to lose power, hope it is not for more than a day.
Cat 3 - Serious, need to board up, will be using supplies and losing power. Hope power is back within 2 days.
Cat 4 - This is serious trouble, Need to board up, grab supplies and important docs and possibly leave the house - hope for no flooding and minimal damage.
Cat 5 - Chance my house is gone, need to pack the important docs, photos, grab supplies and stay somewhere else. Hope my house is still standing and only needs repairs and no rebuilds anywhere.
i think I get carried away with films of boats being blown across city scapes and pictures of semi trucks up in trees. Also, having lived in Tornado Alley for thirty years I've become accustomed to wind being the big killer.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by tinyE
Wind is a killer, too. But hurricanes are so large that you have to be much closer to the eye to get the full effects of the wind. Something that is 400 miles in diameter can't sustain the power 10-20 miles from the eye all the way out to 200 miles away. A 130 mph is going to mess things up, just like a tornado, but like a tornado doesn't hit every house, a hurricane is so wide it hits everything, but like a tornado you have to be close enough to feel the most effect. A hurricane loses power rapidly when the eye is over land and it meets resistance and breaks up. But again the power is concentrated by the eye.

Last year, when Hurricane Matthew (Cat. 3) came by here, I only got hit with Cat 1 wind because he was far enough off the coast. So even though he didn't make landfall and just came up the whole coast staying between 10-30 miles off the shore, he sustained that level the whole time, but it was much weaker than if he made landfall on us at a Cat. 3.

I think the closest Matthew got to me was 35-45 miles away. So that is the differences between a 1 and 3. So if you are 150 miles away you get no hurricane wind, no tropical storm even, you are in the rain bands though.
Cajun Navy Photos and comments tell the facts and show reality.
At night the temperature is lower = it's more likely to rain and for the warm and cold air to shuffle