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Thanks for the heads up! I kinda wanted to give Gunslinger a try, as well as a PC version of Rayman Origins.
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timppu: Meh. The only one that might have interested me was FarCry 3, but it is missing DLCs, right?
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HeDanny: They did this with the Tom Clancy bundle as well. Totally would have bought it if it had the Ghost Recon Future Soldier DLC.
Yeah, I kinda see this as a kind of free-to-play model, where the base game is offered very cheaply (or even for free), but you will be paying through your nose for any DLCs.

I just don't feel like checking how much it would cost me to buy all the missing gaming-content related DLCs for those games, ie. are they still a great deal with the DLCs.

Good for those who want to play only the base game, of course. I guess they don't care enough of those games to see the rest of it too, in the form of gaming content DLCs. Like, say, I really liked playing the original Starcraft, so of course I wanted to buy also the expansion pack for it. If I didn't care for Starcraft, then I guess playing only the base game would have been enough for me. Or even not buying the base game at all, but buy something I'd actually like.

But this is good, at least I will not be increasing my DRM-game backlog, which is what I try to restrict anyway. Who knows whether I can play these games 10 years from now anyway, even if I had a working PC at that time capable of running them. Better buy them only when I would actually play them.
Post edited February 03, 2016 by timppu
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timppu: Meh. The only one that might have interested me was FarCry 3, but it is missing DLCs, right?
Have you checked out what the DLCs consist of and if they actually appeal to you? E.g. do you intend to play the online coop campaign or only single player? The multiplayer DLCs sound semi-interesting, but for single player the DLCs seem to be nothing more than a handful of gimmicks you probably wouldn't miss, like one or two more weapons, one or two small extra dungeons with hardly any story content, nothing really relevant and substantial (comparable to the extra tomb in Tomb Raider 2013). I've only played FC3 without the DLCs (apart from "Testing Unit" which I got for free as a Uplay reward unlocked by achievements in the game and which was rather forgettable) and I never looked back. IMO you don't need them, unless you want to play multiplayer or you're a super OCD completionist (I mean, I am kind of an OCD completionist myself and I didn't even feel like fully exploring the second island, after completing the main story - you'll have enough on your hands without any extra content). ;)
Post edited February 03, 2016 by Leroux
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blotunga: Does anyone know if The Crew can be played offline?
The Crew is an online-only game, but you can play the storyline, side missions, challenges, etc, as a single player.
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VampiroAlhazred: The Crew is an online-only game, but you can play the storyline, side missions, challenges, etc, as a single player.
The problem is that if I have to stay connected all the time to play it, then it's a hassle and I don't want that. Sometimes I only have a 3G Internet stick with me and in some areas the performance of that is abysmal.
Post edited February 03, 2016 by blotunga
So how is Uplay really ? I'm tempted to buy tier 2 for FC3 but I have never used it before, is it bad as they say ?
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Gonen32: So how is Uplay really ? I'm tempted to buy tier 2 for FC3 but I have never used it before, is it bad as they say ?
I have it and use it on occasion and it's never given me any issues.
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Gonen32: So how is Uplay really ? I'm tempted to buy tier 2 for FC3 but I have never used it before, is it bad as they say ?
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trentonlf: I have it and use it on occasion and it's never given me any issues.
Good to know. So it is good as Origin (Steam is on a whole different level...) ?
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Gonen32: Good to know. So it is good as Origin (Steam is on a whole different level...) ?
I use Origin, Steam, and Uplay. I have no issues with any of them.
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timppu: Meh. The only one that might have interested me was FarCry 3, but it is missing DLCs, right?
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Leroux: Have you checked out what the DLCs consist of and if they actually appeal to you?
No, and that is one general problem I have with games having many DLCs, or buying games without DLCs: going through the descriptions of each and every DLC, trying to figure out whether I'd like them or not. Figuring out whether I like the base game is hard enough, trying to figure out dozens(?) of DLCs on top of that is even worse. Much worse.

The example I like to always take is Darksiders 2. I remember when I was trying to read the vague DLC descriptions on the Steam pages, trying to figure out what each DLC was for (was it merely cosmetic, or something else?), and whether I would like it. It wasn't easy, the descriptions were very high level and vague, not really mentioning how they change they gameplay, or do they do that at all.

It is just so much simpler now to buy a complete edition of DS2 with all DLCs included (also from GoG), then I don't have to do the groundwork. Playing the DLCs yourself is the best way to learn which you like and which are meh.

Also when some people say "yeah you can skip items and weapon DLCs and such", how do I know for sure? For instance, the Far Cry 2 DLC added among other things the truck vehicle. Just an extra item, not really needed for the game?

Yet at the same time, that truck was my most favored vehicle in the game (mainly because it wouldn't break as easily as the jeeps and such, and also seemed to protect you better from enemy shots), and now the game would feel incomplete and less fun to me without that vehicle. So I didn't learn about liking that DLC before actually playing it myself.
I'm on the fence on Rayman Origins. I want it. But its Uplay only. Nevertheless, if you have a Rayman Origins key that you refuse to use because Uplay (that is if you EVEN bought the bundle), I can give it a good home.

Its for $1 though, and that's why I'm on the fence. And since Uplay gets flak anyways...
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PookaMustard: I'm on the fence on Rayman Origins. I want it. But its Uplay only. Nevertheless, if you have a Rayman Origins key that you refuse to use because Uplay (that is if you EVEN bought the bundle), I can give it a good home.

Its for $1 though, and that's why I'm on the fence. And since Uplay gets flak anyways...
Looks like you're willing to accept Uplay given a free key, which means that you accept Uplay. It's then only a matter of whether you feel that the game on Uplay is worth $1. I'd say that it is, given that Uplay itself isn't a barrier.
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PookaMustard: I'm on the fence on Rayman Origins. I want it. But its Uplay only. Nevertheless, if you have a Rayman Origins key that you refuse to use because Uplay (that is if you EVEN bought the bundle), I can give it a good home.

Its for $1 though, and that's why I'm on the fence. And since Uplay gets flak anyways...
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ET3D: Looks like you're willing to accept Uplay given a free key, which means that you accept Uplay. It's then only a matter of whether you feel that the game on Uplay is worth $1. I'd say that it is, given that Uplay itself isn't a barrier.
I still am skeptical about it because after being burned with Steam, I feel very untrusting towards those DRM clients... now whenever I obtain a DRM'd game from its respective service due to whatever, I end up getting the crack to said game. I don't want my access locked out is all. Though my experience with Origin and Uplay and their offline modes haven't been as bad as Steam's moody offline mode, so that's a plus. That said, the offline mode will stick till I reinstall Windows (whether upgrade, downgrade unlikely, or just reinstall the same system to solve an issue), after that its muddy waters for me.

That and the game itself weighs in on being Rayman. I enjoyed Jungle Run on Android, and I've seen the game go to absurd difficulties (Origin), yet remaining beatable, along with the art, so yes. It seems I want it, but the DRM client is kind of affecting the situation naturally.
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Gonen32: So how is Uplay really ? I'm tempted to buy tier 2 for FC3 but I have never used it before, is it bad as they say ?
It's not THAT bad. Works with a controller right out of the box.
A "big picture" mode would be nice, too.
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PookaMustard: That and the game itself weighs in on being Rayman. I enjoyed Jungle Run on Android, and I've seen the game go to absurd difficulties (Origin), yet remaining beatable, along with the art, so yes. It seems I want it, but the DRM client is kind of affecting the situation naturally.
Considering that the game is available on GOG, it's mainly a question of cost vs. your dislike for the client. I'd say that if you want to play it right away (not add it to the backlog) and the low price is what enables you to buy it, then go for it. Otherwise wait for a sale. According to IsThereAnyDeal it went for $4.99 on sale here several times in the past few months.

Edit: Looks like Rayman Origins is DRM-free on Steam (and only available DRM-free at Humble, not even a Steam key). Given that it's DRM-free on other stores, there's a chance it's also DRM-free on Uplay. I have no experience with Uplay on PC (I do have an account, and it has my 3 Ubisoft Xbox 360 games on it), so can't tell if there's a chance for that, but I might install the game to try.
Post edited February 04, 2016 by ET3D