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I am interested in this small computer. It looks like a Nintendo 3DS, but it is a full blown Windows 10 PC/laptop and has a built in DirectInput/Xbox360 controller. It's not very powerful, but it seems to be perfect for smaller indie titles and older games I have on GOG/Steam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lslcH-T1E0o

Anyone have it ? What are the experiences with it ?

But, I found out a new one should be released the next year that is supposed to be around twice as powerful and the design looks much nicer, but I'm not sure about the placement of the thumbsticks. It's not the PlayStation style, nor is it the Xbox style thumbstick position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F32vDhsO5dE
Post edited December 03, 2017 by antrad88
Somewhat interesting. It costs the price of a low-end laptop, but I guess its point is the small size and integrated... everything (even a gamepad).

The only reasons for me against buying it:

1. I want more mass storage (was it 64 gigs now?).
2. The small screen size may be a problem for many types of PC games. Even smaller laptop screens are pushing it, making e.g. text and icons in many games too small. What is its native resolution anyway?
3. The fact that it still needs an internal fan... I wonder what its battery life is, and whether it has overheating problems easily?

Anyway like the guy said, this might just become cooler and nicer in the coming years. I do like the idea that it in fact is a full Windows PC in small size, so in theory you can even do real work on it.
Post edited December 03, 2017 by timppu
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timppu: Somewhat interesting. It costs the price of a low-end laptop, but I guess its point is the small size and integrated... everything (even a gamepad).

The only reasons for me against buying it:

1. I want more mass storage (was it 64 gigs now?).
2. The small screen size may be a problem for many types of PC games. Even smaller laptop screens are pushing it, making e.g. text and icons in many games too small. What is its native resolution anyway?
3. The fact that it still needs an internal fan... I wonder what its battery life is, and whether it has overheating problems easily?

Anyway like the guy said, this might just become cooler and nicer in the coming years. I do like the idea that it in fact is a full Windows PC in small size, so in theory you can even do real work on it.
Yes, 64 GB is internal storage, but you can plug in a USB stick or an SD card. The native resolution is 1280x720, the screen size is 5.5". I think that would only be an issue for RTS and similar games with a complex and often small interface, but I wouldn't play those on a handheld device. Also many old games are designed for lower resolutions and don't scale the interface properly, so if you use a high resolution the various HUD and other elements remain tiny.
If it's on the same level as the windows phones I would avoid it.
Wow, that thing is awesome. I want one with a little bigger screen (7 inches available instead of 5.5???). No I'm not actually buying one.... (unless maybe there was one at 7 inches) but man I do want one. LOL

My mother has never driven in her life. Ever. So one of my "jobs" is to be her driver... which means lots and lots of hours spend sitting in a car parking lot. Man it would be awesome to be able to game during those lost hours. I used to carry a laptop but it was just too big and cumbersome sitting in the front seat (with the steering wheel there) and then a few years ago I bought a table (android) and that was.... meh. To be able to actually play GoG or Steam games in the front seat during those wasted hours would be so awesome for me. But 5.5 inch screen is too small for me. LOL
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nightcraw1er.488: If it's on the same level as the windows phones I would avoid it.
This is a real PC running real Windows 10. It's not using some custom mobile Windows version for ARM processors or whatever they were doing with Windows phones and tablets. Whatever you can do on your Windows 10 desktop PC you can do with this one too.
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OldFatGuy: Wow, that thing is awesome. I want one with a little bigger screen (7 inches available instead of 5.5???). No I'm not actually buying one.... (unless maybe there was one at 7 inches) but man I do want one. LOL

My mother has never driven in her life. Ever. So one of my "jobs" is to be her driver... which means lots and lots of hours spend sitting in a car parking lot. Man it would be awesome to be able to game during those lost hours. I used to carry a laptop but it was just too big and cumbersome sitting in the front seat (with the steering wheel there) and then a few years ago I bought a table (android) and that was.... meh. To be able to actually play GoG or Steam games in the front seat during those wasted hours would be so awesome for me. But 5.5 inch screen is too small for me. LOL
Well, the same company did make a 7 inch laptop, but that one doesn't have a gamepad and it is too expensive in my opinion. It is called GPD Pocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_pm43IjJQ&t=38s
Post edited December 04, 2017 by antrad88
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nightcraw1er.488: If it's on the same level as the windows phones I would avoid it.
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antrad88: This is a real PC running real Windows 10. It's not using some custom mobile Windows version for ARM processors or whatever they were doing with Windows phones and tablets. Whatever you can do on your Windows 10 desktop PC you can do with this one too.
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OldFatGuy: Wow, that thing is awesome. I want one with a little bigger screen (7 inches available instead of 5.5???). No I'm not actually buying one.... (unless maybe there was one at 7 inches) but man I do want one. LOL

My mother has never driven in her life. Ever. So one of my "jobs" is to be her driver... which means lots and lots of hours spend sitting in a car parking lot. Man it would be awesome to be able to game during those lost hours. I used to carry a laptop but it was just too big and cumbersome sitting in the front seat (with the steering wheel there) and then a few years ago I bought a table (android) and that was.... meh. To be able to actually play GoG or Steam games in the front seat during those wasted hours would be so awesome for me. But 5.5 inch screen is too small for me. LOL
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antrad88: Well, the same company did make a 7 inch laptop, but that one doesn't have a gamepad and it is too expensive in my opinion. It is called GPD Pocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_pm43IjJQ&t=38s
Back when the netbook was the latest hot thing, Asus made a few machines with 7-inch screens (EeePC 7xx). You most likely wouldn't want to play games on them though, not then, and certainly not now. I can barely get very light-weight Linux distros to run almost-decently on the one we have at work.
Interesting. Becomes a regular desktop with an HDMI adapter, and a Logitech Unifying receiver to connect a mouse, keyboard, game pad, etc. Speaker jack could even connect with a sound system of some sort instead of the earbuds.

Not quite the connectivity of the NUC I bought, but it's also usable as a stand-alone PC whereas the NUC is just the desktop itself.

Price doesn't seem bad at all, so long as it's a sturdy unit that can put up with the treatment it would likely receive: you saw him kind of tossing it around a bit, it would get dumped in a backpack, etc.
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antrad88: This is a real PC running real Windows 10. It's not using some custom mobile Windows version for ARM processors or whatever they were doing with Windows phones and tablets. Whatever you can do on your Windows 10 desktop PC you can do with this one too.

Well, the same company did make a 7 inch laptop, but that one doesn't have a gamepad and it is too expensive in my opinion. It is called GPD Pocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_pm43IjJQ&t=38s
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Maighstir: Back when the netbook was the latest hot thing, Asus made a few machines with 7-inch screens (EeePC 7xx). You most likely wouldn't want to play games on them though, not then, and certainly not now. I can barely get very light-weight Linux distros to run almost-decently on the one we have at work.
I loved my EeePC701, thought Asus were cheeky putting and "invalidates Warrantee" Sticker on the SO-DIMM access.
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Maighstir: Back when the netbook was the latest hot thing, Asus made a few machines with 7-inch screens (EeePC 7xx). You most likely wouldn't want to play games on them though, not then, and certainly not now. I can barely get very light-weight Linux distros to run almost-decently on the one we have at work.
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mechmouse: I loved my EeePC701, thought Asus were cheeky putting and "invalidates Warrantee" Sticker on the SO-DIMM access.
I mainly find it interesting in the "I wonder how usable I can make this old and underpowered piece of shit" sense.

Desktop user interfaces and applications were once built to work at 640x480, which is the same height the 701 has (800 width). Now, you're lucky if the application scales below 1280x720. UI elements such as task bars, icons, title bars, and buttons have gotten larger (pixel-wise) to take up roughly the same size as before on similar-sized screens with higher resolutions. Web sites optimise for 1280 width, and sometimes give you a mobile stylesheet if your screen's thinner. Application windows frequently have sizing restrictions making them unable to go smaller than a certain height and width (both of which are, again, suitable for the 1280x720 screens, minus taskbar of whatever, but certainly not 480 height).

I remember fully taking advantage of multiple windows on my old Macintosh with a screen at 640x480 resolution, yet now a screen of wider resolution requires everything to be full-screen and even that's not enough. Granted, the netbook's screen has half the diagonal size, so widgets probably need a few extra pixels to be usable, but still, it should work, dammit!
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mechmouse: I loved my EeePC701, thought Asus were cheeky putting and "invalidates Warrantee" Sticker on the SO-DIMM access.
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Maighstir: I mainly find it interesting in the "I wonder how usable I can make this old and underpowered piece of shit" sense.

Desktop user interfaces and applications were once built to work at 640x480, which is the same height the 701 has (800 width). Now, you're lucky if the application scales below 1280x720. UI elements such as task bars, icons, title bars, and buttons have gotten larger (pixel-wise) to take up roughly the same size as before on similar-sized screens with higher resolutions. Web sites optimise for 1280 width, and sometimes give you a mobile stylesheet if your screen's thinner. Application windows frequently have sizing restrictions making them unable to go smaller than a certain height and width (both of which are, again, suitable for the 1280x720 screens, minus taskbar of whatever, but certainly not 480 height).

I remember fully taking advantage of multiple windows on my old Macintosh with a screen at 640x480 resolution, yet now a screen of wider resolution requires everything to be full-screen and even that's not enough. Granted, the netbook's screen has half the diagonal size, so widgets probably need a few extra pixels to be usable, but still, it should work, dammit!
I tried to use it about a year ago, the low vertical resolution makes things difficult. Heck even on release, its own custom linux didn't like it with many things displayed off screen.

IIRC I used Arch linux and kept to Terminal as much as posible.
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Maighstir: I mainly find it interesting in the "I wonder how usable I can make this old and underpowered piece of shit" sense.

Desktop user interfaces and applications were once built to work at 640x480, which is the same height the 701 has (800 width). Now, you're lucky if the application scales below 1280x720. UI elements such as task bars, icons, title bars, and buttons have gotten larger (pixel-wise) to take up roughly the same size as before on similar-sized screens with higher resolutions. Web sites optimise for 1280 width, and sometimes give you a mobile stylesheet if your screen's thinner. Application windows frequently have sizing restrictions making them unable to go smaller than a certain height and width (both of which are, again, suitable for the 1280x720 screens, minus taskbar of whatever, but certainly not 480 height).

I remember fully taking advantage of multiple windows on my old Macintosh with a screen at 640x480 resolution, yet now a screen of wider resolution requires everything to be full-screen and even that's not enough. Granted, the netbook's screen has half the diagonal size, so widgets probably need a few extra pixels to be usable, but still, it should work, dammit!
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mechmouse: I tried to use it about a year ago, the low vertical resolution makes things difficult. Heck even on release, its own custom linux didn't like it with many things displayed off screen.

IIRC I used Arch linux and kept to Terminal as much as posible.
I used Manjaro Netbook Edition for a while. That at least had the right idea, with the default configuration being to ask windows to go full-screen when opened, and remove title bars on full-screen windows (getting a few precious rows of pixels back for the content - there were buttons in the task bar for close and un-maximise). I also ran Android, but couldn't go above 4.1 (I think) due to the machine not being up to the system requirements.
Post edited December 04, 2017 by Maighstir
Just yesterday I read somewhere else, someone manage to run Dolphin emulator on it. I'm impressed that thing can run up to GameCube emulator. Counting on emulator alone, that's a wide range of games you can play in that handheld device

If you add joy2key and map keyboard key to gamepad, pc games with simple control scheme can be played comfortably too. Cave story, spelunky, Iji, Titan soul.

If only it wasn't that expensive I'd buy one already. For now I stick withy android phone and Bluetooth gamepad for handheld gaming
The Samsung Q1, Q1U, and Q1UP UMPC's are back in fashion, after briefly being sidelined by iPhones, iPads, and Android tablets. The first Samsung Q1UP I bought cost me $1200. Now you can buy them on ebay for around $100. I have 7 of them now :)
Post edited December 05, 2017 by badon
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OldFatGuy: Wow, that thing is awesome. I want one with a little bigger screen (7 inches available instead of 5.5???). No I'm not actually buying one.... (unless maybe there was one at 7 inches) but man I do want one. LOL

My mother has never driven in her life. Ever. So one of my "jobs" is to be her driver... which means lots and lots of hours spend sitting in a car parking lot. Man it would be awesome to be able to game during those lost hours. I used to carry a laptop but it was just too big and cumbersome sitting in the front seat (with the steering wheel there) and then a few years ago I bought a table (android) and that was.... meh. To be able to actually play GoG or Steam games in the front seat during those wasted hours would be so awesome for me. But 5.5 inch screen is too small for me. LOL
My tablet can emulate up to a PS1 exceptionally well, and with a Moga Power Hero pocket controller, I have a portable gaming system with PS1, N64, SNES, NES, SMS, SMD, PSX GBC, GBA, and NDS games available to me. The Tablet was $200 (no longer available NVidia Shield Tablet) the controller was $30. The SD card to hold all that delicious retro gaming was $25.
Post edited December 05, 2017 by paladin181