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Lifthrasil: The point is if a PGO manages to appear as town power role, towny enough that investigators leave him alone and scum try to kill him, he has the chance to take out one scum. As I said, a trade one for one is good for town. If he is a likely investigation target, then yes, the PGO should claim before nightfall. Which is what I did. It was always a likely outcome that I would have to claim before the Deadline to protect the PRs, but still I didn't like the way meda fished for my name and Darko kept pushing for my name even after I said, that that would amount to a full claim. So he was in effect pushing for me to claim.
Another drawback of the PGO is, that he can't be confirmed as town by investigators. So the only way to 100% confirm a PGO as town would be a policy lynch. As I said, I don't like that role and it is difficult to play. But being a bodyguard I might die sooner or later anyhow, giving you a flip in the process, if I manage to successfully protect someone.
Yeah PGO BG is a really whacky role and kind of perfect in a drealmer world. You have to be really careful who you target because you can kill off TPRs. It would almost be optimal to no-action in many universes here tbh. If y'all hadn't lynched me it would've been hugely awesome to protect in me/Darko because then essentially all 3 of us would be unkillable, but oh well lolvillage.
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Sage103082: I am not understanding why meda is being so quiet. You would think after revealing and possible having shown as town that she would be acting and helping town, if she was town. But she is so quiet and not answering question and leaving us more in the dark and confused, right where scum would love town to be.

Darko - Please when you do catch up share more and trying to help us to understand since meda is not.

trent i hope you feel better and lift enjoy your weekend
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Completely inaccurate. I answered everything and did more than ANYONE to try to get people to start playing actual mafia so this is just baffling coming from you especially considering the amount of game driving content you've produced is pretty much zero?


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RWarehall: Vote DarkoD13

I have a hard time thinking of a town role that needs to know a particular player's name. What I can fathom is a 3rd party role with a specific target. Taking this a step further. Such a 3rd party role seems unlikely to have a scum target, thus making that role rather anti-Town neutral.

On this basis, I'm happy voting out an Anti-Town neutral 3rd party.
Insert 1 million facepalms.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
@meda there were several questions me, RW, and Hunter asked you that you didn't answer even after we asked your for an answer several times. I'm still not sure why you never addressed the questions, but if you go back you will see that we had questions that you never answered.
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Hunter65536: Just curious, this power role is kinda immune to scum night kill as well isn't it? Unless I am mistaken scum gets killed if they hit you right?
I still don't believe meda or darko, especially the way meda keeps repeating that she is conf!town and her refusal to answer questions I asked before.
Holy lord. Why is this all you're doing??? ://////

Also if I missed a question from you then restate it :)
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trentonlf: @meda there were several questions me, RW, and Hunter asked you that you didn't answer even after we asked your for an answer several times. I'm still not sure why you never addressed the questions, but if you go back you will see that we had questions that you never answered.
You don't seem surprised that I'm flipping town????

I'm sure I'll see them as I catch up then? Feel like I already answered 1 million questions and people just kept inventing more to keep the gamestate oriented around the "ur claim fake" :P
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
You explained everything??????

How???

I read what you wrote. You claimed you had a power that 100% guaranteed both you and your Mason buddy were Town. I asked a lot of questions about this, like how this works exactly given that you don't know who can be Town and might select one. You didn't answer...

I asked how you could be townreading Lift so hard before his reveal after your ability use bounced. Crickets!

I asked for the name of the power or ability and you claim it has no name yet you continue to use the word Masons. The mod must have used some words to describe it, right? More crickets!

Your explanations keep contradicting themselves and even now you are talking of scumreading your 100% confirmed Town Mason bud...and you somehow can't understand why you are getting lynched? You completely baffle me. You were lynched because your claim didn't make any sense proving you a liar

If you are Town and want to help us in your last words, then tell us the truth. Not your made-up b.s. So you are now saying Quad/Darko was never actually confirmed as town, right?
If you are able to make someone a Mason then how can you recruit scum? If it's anything else then I can see it being possible, but from everything I could find a Masonizer role dies if trying to recruit scum so that would mean Darko has to be town if you flip town. Or is your role not a Masonizer? (This is one off the questions we wanted answered)
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RWarehall: You explained everything??????

How???

I read what you wrote. You claimed you had a power that 100% guaranteed both you and your Mason buddy were Town. I asked a lot of questions about this, like how this works exactly given that you don't know who can be Town and might select one. You didn't answer...

I asked how you could be townreading Lift so hard before his reveal after your ability use bounced. Crickets!

I asked for the name of the power or ability and you claim it has no name yet you continue to use the word Masons. The mod must have used some words to describe it, right? More crickets!

Your explanations keep contradicting themselves and even now you are talking of scumreading your 100% confirmed Town Mason bud...and you somehow can't understand why you are getting lynched? You completely baffle me. You were lynched because your claim didn't make any sense proving you a liar

If you are Town and want to help us in your last words, then tell us the truth. Not your made-up b.s. So you are now saying Quad/Darko was never actually confirmed as town, right?
First question is nonsensical, rephrase. Lift is town because his content is town. Already clarified multiple times that my ability didn't "bounce". Already told you that there's no "role name". drealmer doesn't do "role names". Your question: irrelevant. So no, I answered everything if what you've listed here is what I "haven't answered" and you're just inventing reasons to scumread me.

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trentonlf: If you are able to make someone a Mason then how can you recruit scum? If it's anything else then I can see it being possible, but from everything I could find a Masonizer role dies if trying to recruit scum so that would mean Darko has to be town if you flip town. Or is your role not a Masonizer? (This is one off the questions we wanted answered)
Masonizers don't die trying to recruit scum. Weak roles die trying to recruit scum. I'm not a masonizer, I just have a mason bud \o/
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
Ah, RIP.

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RWarehall: So you are now saying Quad/Darko was never actually confirmed as town, right?
Don't worry, I guarantee that I'll be cleared now.

So you still don't have a theory on what the power was? Someone else already theorized on it early on, I'm a bit surprised that you still seem so baffled by the connection.
The internal logic of my claim was consistent. I targeted someone, we became confirmed town to each other. That's literally the extent of what I claimed. Everyone in thread exploded their brains with legalistic fervor and said but 1poiraolskJFKLAjfKLASNFkasnF IT CANT BE TRUE ALKDNFADKFMNASLKMFNAKSFK OMG OMG ASKLFJAsFKNAS;FNASMNFASFN YOU LIE ALKSFJASFJASKFJASFJAKSF

And then it became what it has etc. Honestly it's hilarious to me but \o/ lolsitemeta


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DarkoD13: Ah, RIP.

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RWarehall: So you are now saying Quad/Darko was never actually confirmed as town, right?
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DarkoD13: Don't worry, I guarantee that I'll be cleared now.

So you still don't have a theory on what the power was? Someone else already theorized on it early on, I'm a bit surprised that you still seem so baffled by the connection.
Sorry dude :(

I feel bad that I got you killed and it wasn't your fault

RW is basically just scum.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
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medamiedo: Sorry dude :(

I feel bad that I got you killed and it wasn't your fault
No worries, it was an interesting experience, never had a daychat before.
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medamiedo: First question is nonsensical, rephrase. Lift is town because his content is town. Already clarified multiple times that my ability didn't "bounce". Already told you that there's no "role name". drealmer doesn't do "role names". Your question: irrelevant. So no, I answered everything if what you've listed here is what I "haven't answered" and you're just inventing reasons to scumread me.
Then answer the "simple" question of how your power works that it guarantees your target is Town as you claimed.

And of course it "bounced". Mod said you couldn't use it on that player. It bounced.

Like I said, your ability must have been explained in some way even if it is "pick someone and you get your own quicktopic"

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Claiming a question is nonsensical ISN'T an answer...
Claiming there is "no role name" and not further clarifying ISN'T an answer...
Claiming a question is irrelevant, ISN'T an answer...

So NO, you didn't answer everything like you keep claiming...
What sucks is that my power was perfect for my tendency to normally get NKed on N1. :D
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CSPVG: So, right, even I'm bored of my flavour posting. I was going to pretend that drealmer was making me do it for the whole game, but I can't be bothered anymore.

Unvote: Meda, I guess. I was being honest when I said earlier that this whole thing reminded me of a Yogsloth ploy, which is why I was voting you for the most part, as I think my paranoia about the whole thing got the better of me. So, for the time being, I'm going to go with this being a non-scum ploy.

As for the rest of it, I really will have to think of who to vote for. Gamma still reads weird to me in general, but I think he/she follows a kind of post style (Mafiascum?) that I'm not familiar with, apart from that Hunter keeps banging on about the same things. Sage hasn't said much. Trent is trent.

Honestly think may be town:

Lifth, RWarehall

Kinda of want to get on oldwino's case for not really contributing and then just dogpiling.

Ugh.
Definitely would like to hear your reasoning for RW town because that's not something I agree on at all right now. Not sure what "trent is trent" means so that's also something I think stands being explained!
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DarkoD13: What sucks is that my power was perfect for my tendency to normally get NKed on N1. :D
Your posts kick ass, definitely would've been a strong candidate for the shot!!!
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
Drealmer said this was not a bastardized game so I will be interested to see exactly what role can make someone a Mason that is not a Masonizer or a bastard role.
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medamiedo: Sorry dude :(

I feel bad that I got you killed and it wasn't your fault
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DarkoD13: No worries, it was an interesting experience, never had a daychat before.
Daychat is super fucking awesome yeah. I wish I had it more as town.
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medamiedo: First question is nonsensical, rephrase. Lift is town because his content is town. Already clarified multiple times that my ability didn't "bounce". Already told you that there's no "role name". drealmer doesn't do "role names". Your question: irrelevant. So no, I answered everything if what you've listed here is what I "haven't answered" and you're just inventing reasons to scumread me.
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RWarehall: Then answer the "simple" question of how your power works that it guarantees your target is Town as you claimed.

And of course it "bounced". Mod said you couldn't use it on that player. It bounced.

Like I said, your ability must have been explained in some way even if it is "pick someone and you get your own quicktopic"

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Claiming a question is nonsensical ISN'T an answer...
Claiming there is "no role name" and not further clarifying ISN'T an answer...
Claiming a question is irrelevant, ISN'T an answer...

So NO, you didn't answer everything like you keep claiming...
Holy shit dude you are literally refusing to listen. I said your question doesn't make sense, so rephrase. I said that there's no "role name", you're asking a question that has no answer and then scumreading me for not giving you an answer that doesn't exist. Fucking lol.
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trentonlf: Drealmer said this was not a bastardized game so I will be interested to see exactly what role can make someone a Mason that is not a Masonizer or a bastard role.
It's like a pseudo-masonizer innocent child with an additional effect that I'm keeping secret just for this moment.
Post edited August 16, 2017 by medamiedo
I think I get it now. Darko is claiming they are lovers. Meda just killed him. It explains the daychat and explains why cross-faction doesn't matter, but it doesn't guarantee Quad/Darko was Town.